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I don't think anyone disputes the right for the British to patrol their coastline, but Boris threatening to send in the gunboats during negotiations might not be the best strategy. IIRC Rinkals is a British citizen and has never been a South African one so maybe that post is somewhat misguided Don'...

Fanatical lunacy reaching it peak? Gunboats to protect 'our fish' I thought you were joking. Apparently Boris is serious. https://www.euronews.com/2020/12/12/gunboat-diplomacy-uk-plans-to-use-royal-navy-to-stop-fishing-boats-branded-irresponsible How does South Africa patrol its waters Rinkals? I h...

Fanatical lunacy reaching it peak? Gunboats to protect 'our fish' I thought you were joking. Apparently Boris is serious. https://www.euronews.com/2020/12/12/gunboat-diplomacy-uk-plans-to-use-royal-navy-to-stop-fishing-boats-branded-irresponsible How does South Africa patrol its waters Rinkals? I h...

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:22 pm It is impossible to tell that you were joking. Fair enough if so.

That's the trouble with text sometimes I suppose.

Yes, to be clear it's a Daily Mail headline quoting an unnamed source saying "Merkel wants the UK to crawl over broken glass". Literally no clue who is saying it. It could be Jacob Rees-Mogg. It could be Anthony Joshua. It could be one of the fucking cleaners in the fucking cunt Daily Mai...

No. Its headlines. Thanks, found it Yes, to be clear it's a Daily Mail headline quoting an unnamed source saying "Merkel wants the UK to crawl over broken glass". Literally no clue who is saying it. It could be Jacob Rees-Mogg. It could be Anthony Joshua. It could be one of the fucking cl...

Talks to continue.....

TBH
I've airways had the same opinion that both sides are as bad as each other
The PR thread is unreadable
Please don't let this one go that way

westport wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:31 am
Longshanks wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:48 am Micheal Martin again appealing for a deal, a compromise. But if reports are correct Angela Merkel has said she wants the UK to walk over broken glass, no compromise.
It's sadly No Deal day.
Do you have a link for what Merkel says

No. Its headlines.

Micheal Martin again appealing for a deal, a compromise. But if reports are correct Angela Merkel has said she wants the UK to walk over broken glass, no compromise. It's sadly No Deal day. Waste of nearly 4 years. Should have just left at the end of 2016. We’d have worked out the kinks by now. Tha...

Micheal Martin again appealing for a deal, a compromise. But if reports are correct Angela Merkel has said she wants the UK to walk over broken glass, no compromise.
It's sadly No Deal day.

Fair enough. I think we all know how the French operate when their pissed & feel aggrieved. In the Cods wars the UK fishermen didn't like Iceland unilaterally deciding to put them out of work; & I don't see the French taking it any better. Like I say; I think; given the UK was supposedly pr...

Yeah; I do; & I think the UK talking about bring extra vessels in to police their waters shows they think there will be too. Just look at the cod wars ! I when to college with a couple of guys from Killybegs, which would be probably the largest Irish fishing town; & the shit the would talk ...

FF But what about the CFP? Quotas? Being in the EU you can't just catch what you want and hope nobody finds out. You predict illegal fishing en masse , but I think that's you using hyperbole again. It'll be isolated instances. Yeah; I do; & I think the UK talking about bring extra vessels in to...

FF
But what about the CFP? Quotas? Being in the EU you can't just catch what you want and hope nobody finds out.
You predict illegal fishing en masse, but I think that's you using hyperbole again. It'll be isolated instances.

Has the Navy perfected the Teleporter ? ... because with 4x boats, & the huge area involved, they got their work cut out for them. I hear they already patrol UK waters and keep an eye on fishing. What’s with the hysteria today? Before now they'd stop a few boats a day, & check nets, & w...

I'm drawing a distinction between what each side wants. If you edit my post to remove the context, it may help you win on the internet, but it doesn't really advance the discussion. The original point was this: " this is a negotiation where both parties want the best for their own members"...

Suggestion that the UK compensate EU fishermen affected by losing access to UK waters.
Deal might still be alive.

Conversely, the UK wants to be granted full access to the EU without having to go through the rigours or the cost of membership. As in more 'Cake'. No, it doesn't and has been explicit on this - indeed the rationale for rejecting LPF ratchets and EU court oversight is that we are not asking for ful...

4 Royal Navy boats to be used to protect UK fishing waters from European poachers after Jan 1st.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... eal-brexit

Are the EU softening their position? "But this is not to say that we would require the UK to follow us every time we decide to raise our level of ambition, for example, in the environmental field. They would remain free - sovereign if you wish - to decide what they want to do. We would simply s...

Just to add
Obviously a deal is not just about money.

Bimbo will probably know for sure but iirc it's predicted that with a FTA the average person will be 60p a day better off than they will be with no deal, as apposed to about £2 a day better off if we had remained in the EU.
It's rubbish to suggest It's cake.

I think there's an important distinction to be made, namely that, although the UK may be looking for the best deal possible, the EU is looking for a deal that will be the least damaging for them and their members. There is no distinction. Both are out for there own interests and won't sign a deal t...

I think there's an important distinction to be made, namely that, although the UK may be looking for the best deal possible, the EU is looking for a deal that will be the least damaging for them and their members. There is no distinction. Both are out for there own interests and won't sign a deal t...

As I see it, the fact that the UK is on Europe's doorstep means that the logistical problems of bringing produce to market are different from those posed by countries like Canada and Australia, so the threat to locally produced products is perceived as being greater. In this I'm assuming that there...

As I see it, the fact that the UK is on Europe's doorstep means that the logistical problems of bringing produce to market are different from those posed by countries like Canada and Australia, so the threat to locally produced products is perceived as being greater. In this I'm assuming that there...

US approves Pfizer vaccine.

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:06 pm He’s totally wrong as usual , the issue was the valuation on good arriving from China and the associated VAT.

But hey fentanyl

That was it. I knew there was a fine, but your memory is better than mine.

The bottom line is that the UK has land borders with the EU, & the EU has zero faith in the UK policing them; if not doing so is to the UKs advantage. The EU know that the UK didn't even meet its commitments when it was in the EU; why would the expect this to improve now you're outside ? What U...

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/590x/secondary/eu-graphic-brexit-2333487.jpg?r=1582741074408 "These cows are small Dougal, those are very far away !" A nice bubble chart but irrelevant to my question. In fact, it only seems to make my question and argument more pertinent. T...

Don't know if this has been covered, but read that the Australian government has cancelled a billion dollar order for 50 million doses of an Australian vaccine because people involved in the trial returned a false positive for HIV. Sounds weird to say the least. How on earth could that happen?

If that is going to be case; Dominic Raab will find out by the end of January just how important Dover is to England. I'd expect French fishermen to blockade all UK ferries entering French & Belgian ports, & I'd also expect the Gendarmes to go over every truck coming off those ferries, &...

Sounds like UK have rejected the EU plans for no deal on fish. (Not really a surprise) If that is going to be case; Dominic Raab will find out by the end of January just how important Dover is to England. I'd expect French fishermen to blockade all UK ferries entering French & Belgian ports, &a...

Sounds like UK have rejected the EU plans for no deal on fish. (Not really a surprise)

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:40 am
Longshanks wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:27 am The EU remind me of Arnie
"I want your clothes your boots and your motorcycle"
"Also you can't call a cab to get you home naked afterwards."

Ireland remind me of Father Ted at the end of the episode with Chris the sheep.

You do realise it can take years to develop a new trading agreement? Any country leaving the EU would/will do the same if they are able. You mirror what you have, then look to develop new markets and new arrangements. The UK has had 10 months, and they have done pretty well. Brilliant, 11 months to...

The EU remind me of Arnie
"I want your clothes your boots and your motorcycle"

“I think the overall interests of the people of Europe it’s very important from my view that a deal is reached,” Mr Martin told journalists as he entered a meeting of fellow EU leaders in Brussels.

I like the new Irish PM, talks sense, like me.

Singapore and the UK signed a free trade deal in the Southeast Asian city-state on Thursday. The deal will cover a trade relationship worth more than (£17bn. The agreement largely mirrors an existing deal between Singapore and the European Union . Wooo! new deal, same as the one we had. Unleashing ...

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