The hell

The hell
You're welcome to comment on the disgrace that is Boris Johnson and his corrupt government. Just stop acting like a cuntMuttonbird wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:19 pmYou are othering me and others already by saying "we've managed..." Same closed off shite which was promoted at Planet Rugby.JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:08 pm We've managed to almost completely eliminate bad faith arguments on here while maintaining robust debate and disagreement. Stop fucking it up. Everyone is aware that you aren't looking for serious responses and are just looking to get a rise out of people.
Why is it that only British people are allowed to comment on the disgrace that is the Boris Johnson government? Britain is a powerful country and Boris' doings affects more than middle England alone.
Please dont bring stuff like that over here and try not to derail threads...thanks in advance
Certainly Zapp. In my defence Slick has a massive hard on for me and I had to make a point of resisting direct calls by him to you for my banning after very small activity on my part.Zapp Bannigan wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:37 pmPlease dont bring stuff like that over here and try not to derail threads...thanks in advance![]()
Stay on topic or fuck off back PR.Muttonbird wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:58 pm Certainly Zapp. In my defence Slick has a massive hard on for me and I had to make a point of resisting direct calls by him to you for my banning after very small activity on my part.
Yup, don’t see the point in even allowing “small activity” from you because it’s the same teenager in a dark room wanking over his shite trolling stuff every time. You sad cunt.Muttonbird wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:58 pmCertainly Zapp. In my defence Slick has a massive hard on for me and I had to make a point of resisting direct calls by him to you for my banning after very small activity on my part.Zapp Bannigan wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:37 pmPlease dont bring stuff like that over here and try not to derail threads...thanks in advance![]()
It's the collective we. As in the regular posters on this board who've formed the community and the moderation team who have done good work in making sure things stay sane.Muttonbird wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:19 pmYou are othering me and others already by saying "we've managed..." Same closed off shite which was promoted at Planet Rugby.JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:08 pm We've managed to almost completely eliminate bad faith arguments on here while maintaining robust debate and disagreement. Stop fucking it up. Everyone is aware that you aren't looking for serious responses and are just looking to get a rise out of people.
Why is it that only British people are allowed to comment on the disgrace that is the Boris Johnson government? Britain is a powerful country and Boris' doings affects more than middle England alone.
Muttonbird multi alert!The sun god wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:27 pm So when is this ex-pub landlady report due ?..... I thought it was today.
Nope, next week I thinkThe sun god wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:27 pm So when is this ex-pub landlady report due ?..... I thought it was today.
Slick wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:33 pmMuttonbird multi alert!The sun god wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:27 pm So when is this ex-pub landlady report due ?..... I thought it was today.
I know nothing about her other than her name, what's funny bout her career path?Happyhooker wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:35 pmNope, next week I thinkThe sun god wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:27 pm So when is this ex-pub landlady report due ?..... I thought it was today.
Funny career path hers. Nothing odd about it at all
Rose through the ranks in the civil service then weirdly spent time in NI as a "pub landlady" before coming back to a role in the Cabinet Office. The implication being that her landlady role was more of a security services cover story.sturginho wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:46 pmI know nothing about her other than her name, what's funny bout her career path?Happyhooker wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:35 pmNope, next week I thinkThe sun god wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:27 pm So when is this ex-pub landlady report due ?..... I thought it was today.
Funny career path hers. Nothing odd about it at all
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:49 pmRose through the ranks in the civil service then weirdly spent time in NI as a "pub landlady" before coming back to a role in the Cabinet Office. The implication being that her landlady role was more of a security services cover story.sturginho wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:46 pmI know nothing about her other than her name, what's funny bout her career path?Happyhooker wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:35 pm Nope, next week I think
Funny career path hers. Nothing odd about it at all
WeirdHappyhooker wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:49 pm Civil servant until the late 80s. Then took a decade career break to run a pub in newry. Then rejoined the civil service and straight into a job in the cabinet office.
Definitely nothing suspicious there
Very odd indeed but I guess it takes all sorts.Happyhooker wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:35 pmNope, next week I thinkThe sun god wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:27 pm So when is this ex-pub landlady report due ?..... I thought it was today.
Funny career path hers. Nothing odd about it at all
Boris Johnson is a terrible prime minister and a worse human being.
But he is not a monster newly sprung from a rent between this world and the next. Twenty years have passed since the Conservative party first selected him as a candidate. Michael Howard and David Cameron made him a shadow minister, and Theresa May gave him the Foreign Office. Thirty years of celebrity made him famous for his mendacity, indifference to detail, poor administration, and inveterate betrayal of every personal commitment.
Yet, knowing this, the majority of Conservative MPs, and party members, still voted for him to be prime minister. He is not, therefore, an aberration, but a product of a system that will continue to produce terrible politicians long after he is gone.
MPs selected him because they would not risk the possibility of a smaller majority under a better leader. Winning mattered more than governing well. And the public often seems to share this indifference
Time so somebody said that, they can’t pretend they didn’t know what they were getting.SaintK wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:32 pm Bullseye from Rory Stewart in the FTBoris Johnson is a terrible prime minister and a worse human being.
But he is not a monster newly sprung from a rent between this world and the next. Twenty years have passed since the Conservative party first selected him as a candidate. Michael Howard and David Cameron made him a shadow minister, and Theresa May gave him the Foreign Office. Thirty years of celebrity made him famous for his mendacity, indifference to detail, poor administration, and inveterate betrayal of every personal commitment.
Yet, knowing this, the majority of Conservative MPs, and party members, still voted for him to be prime minister. He is not, therefore, an aberration, but a product of a system that will continue to produce terrible politicians long after he is gone.
MPs selected him because they would not risk the possibility of a smaller majority under a better leader. Winning mattered more than governing well. And the public often seems to share this indifference
I have loads of time for Rory Stewart. Would have made a good pmSaintK wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:32 pm Bullseye from Rory Stewart in the FTBoris Johnson is a terrible prime minister and a worse human being.
But he is not a monster newly sprung from a rent between this world and the next. Twenty years have passed since the Conservative party first selected him as a candidate. Michael Howard and David Cameron made him a shadow minister, and Theresa May gave him the Foreign Office. Thirty years of celebrity made him famous for his mendacity, indifference to detail, poor administration, and inveterate betrayal of every personal commitment.
Yet, knowing this, the majority of Conservative MPs, and party members, still voted for him to be prime minister. He is not, therefore, an aberration, but a product of a system that will continue to produce terrible politicians long after he is gone.
MPs selected him because they would not risk the possibility of a smaller majority under a better leader. Winning mattered more than governing well. And the public often seems to share this indifference
He’s certainly a good guy. And it shows what a shit show politics is that he is too good to ever be a PMpetej wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:49 pmI have loads of time for Rory Stewart. Would have made a good pmSaintK wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:32 pm Bullseye from Rory Stewart in the FTBoris Johnson is a terrible prime minister and a worse human being.
But he is not a monster newly sprung from a rent between this world and the next. Twenty years have passed since the Conservative party first selected him as a candidate. Michael Howard and David Cameron made him a shadow minister, and Theresa May gave him the Foreign Office. Thirty years of celebrity made him famous for his mendacity, indifference to detail, poor administration, and inveterate betrayal of every personal commitment.
Yet, knowing this, the majority of Conservative MPs, and party members, still voted for him to be prime minister. He is not, therefore, an aberration, but a product of a system that will continue to produce terrible politicians long after he is gone.
MPs selected him because they would not risk the possibility of a smaller majority under a better leader. Winning mattered more than governing well. And the public often seems to share this indifference
Yep, and a great piece by him there.petej wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:49 pmI have loads of time for Rory Stewart. Would have made a good pmSaintK wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:32 pm Bullseye from Rory Stewart in the FTBoris Johnson is a terrible prime minister and a worse human being.
But he is not a monster newly sprung from a rent between this world and the next. Twenty years have passed since the Conservative party first selected him as a candidate. Michael Howard and David Cameron made him a shadow minister, and Theresa May gave him the Foreign Office. Thirty years of celebrity made him famous for his mendacity, indifference to detail, poor administration, and inveterate betrayal of every personal commitment.
Yet, knowing this, the majority of Conservative MPs, and party members, still voted for him to be prime minister. He is not, therefore, an aberration, but a product of a system that will continue to produce terrible politicians long after he is gone.
MPs selected him because they would not risk the possibility of a smaller majority under a better leader. Winning mattered more than governing well. And the public often seems to share this indifference
You already have the water companies destroying your rivers, & coast line with raw sewage; I don't think you really want fracking to add yet more poison to your water !tc27 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:55 pm
SO glad we do not really frack gas - I mean co2 released from US extracted gas doesn't count right?
Also glad we could support the hard pressed US oil and gas industry instead of producing it ourselves.
Or we could have, you know, spent the last decade fixing up our rotten housing stock and hitting developers with a stick so we didn't have the leakiest houses in Europe, and so pay through the nose many times over.fishfoodie wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:51 pmYou already have the water companies destroying your rivers, & coast line with raw sewage; I don't think you really want fracking to add yet more poison to your water !tc27 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:55 pm
SO glad we do not really frack gas - I mean co2 released from US extracted gas doesn't count right?
Also glad we could support the hard pressed US oil and gas industry instead of producing it ourselves.
Instead the Tories are attacking one of the larger suppliers of insulation in the UK; & presecuting them; for the failings of their own shocking building standards; & the council they ran; for putting in totally unsuitable insulation on GrenfellHal Jordan wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:51 pmOr we could have, you know, spent the last decade fixing up our rotten housing stock and hitting developers with a stick so we didn't have the leakiest houses in Europe, and so pay through the nose many times over.fishfoodie wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:51 pmYou already have the water companies destroying your rivers, & coast line with raw sewage; I don't think you really want fracking to add yet more poison to your water !tc27 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:55 pm
SO glad we do not really frack gas - I mean co2 released from US extracted gas doesn't count right?
Also glad we could support the hard pressed US oil and gas industry instead of producing it ourselves.
It really is like dealing with the worst short sighted reactionary management clique. Lets cost cut here and there and everywhere. Oh dear it has gone wrong. I don't know why.fishfoodie wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:00 pmInstead the Tories are attacking one of the larger suppliers of insulation in the UK; & presecuting them; for the failings of their own shocking building standards; & the council they ran; for putting in totally unsuitable insulation on GrenfellHal Jordan wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:51 pmOr we could have, you know, spent the last decade fixing up our rotten housing stock and hitting developers with a stick so we didn't have the leakiest houses in Europe, and so pay through the nose many times over.fishfoodie wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:51 pm
You already have the water companies destroying your rivers, & coast line with raw sewage; I don't think you really want fracking to add yet more poison to your water !
And with the impending cost of living crisis over food and energy bills he still makes an expendable scapegoat pro tem.I like neeps wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:24 pm I do think Boris was needed for Brexit. It was always going to be damaging, it was always going to unpopular (there was never a maj for Singapore on Thames or 350m PW to the NHS). Don't know how many other PMs could push something like that through. You need someone totally shameless and totally lost on the details.
i saw the Tory's are down to 32% and Labour up to 42%. Got to hope that the country won't be fooled by a change of leader.tabascoboy wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:09 pmAnd with the impending cost of living crisis over food and energy bills he still makes an expendable scapegoat pro tem.I like neeps wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:24 pm I do think Boris was needed for Brexit. It was always going to be damaging, it was always going to unpopular (there was never a maj for Singapore on Thames or 350m PW to the NHS). Don't know how many other PMs could push something like that through. You need someone totally shameless and totally lost on the details.
Lets hope that Labour realise that they shouldn't bother in areas where the Lim Dems can over turn a Tory majority.petej wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:20 pmi saw the Tory's are down to 32% and Labour up to 42%. Got to hope that the country won't be fooled by a change of leader.tabascoboy wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:09 pmAnd with the impending cost of living crisis over food and energy bills he still makes an expendable scapegoat pro tem.I like neeps wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:24 pm I do think Boris was needed for Brexit. It was always going to be damaging, it was always going to unpopular (there was never a maj for Singapore on Thames or 350m PW to the NHS). Don't know how many other PMs could push something like that through. You need someone totally shameless and totally lost on the details.
if they meet now; before the GE gets called, & the pressures off; they can agree some non-compete constituencies; & maybe criteria, for others where both are technically in with a shoutC69 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:31 pmLets hope that Labour realise that they shouldn't bother in areas where the Lim Dems can over turn a Tory majority.petej wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:20 pmi saw the Tory's are down to 32% and Labour up to 42%. Got to hope that the country won't be fooled by a change of leader.tabascoboy wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:09 pm
And with the impending cost of living crisis over food and energy bills he still makes an expendable scapegoat pro tem.
Big push for a coalition.
Fingers crossed.fishfoodie wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:38 pmif they meet now; before the GE gets called, & the pressures off; they can agree some non-compete constituencies; & maybe criteria, for others where both are technically in with a shoutC69 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:31 pmLets hope that Labour realise that they shouldn't bother in areas where the Lim Dems can over turn a Tory majority.petej wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:20 pm
i saw the Tory's are down to 32% and Labour up to 42%. Got to hope that the country won't be fooled by a change of leader.
Big push for a coalition.
Can't see that informally being an issue with Starmer and Davey.fishfoodie wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:38 pmif they meet now; before the GE gets called, & the pressures off; they can agree some non-compete constituencies; & maybe criteria, for others where both are technically in with a shoutC69 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:31 pmLets hope that Labour realise that they shouldn't bother in areas where the Lim Dems can over turn a Tory majority.petej wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:20 pm
i saw the Tory's are down to 32% and Labour up to 42%. Got to hope that the country won't be fooled by a change of leader.
Big push for a coalition.
Hope so. Expecially if it means my mucker Sefton votes Lib Dem.petej wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:49 pmCan't see that informally being an issue with Starmer and Davey.fishfoodie wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:38 pmif they meet now; before the GE gets called, & the pressures off; they can agree some non-compete constituencies; & maybe criteria, for others where both are technically in with a shoutC69 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:31 pm
Lets hope that Labour realise that they shouldn't bother in areas where the Lim Dems can over turn a Tory majority.
Big push for a coalition.
Lib Dems were 3rd here, Labour are the natural challengers now.C69 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:27 pmHope so. Expecially if it means my mucker Sefton votes Lib Dem.petej wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:49 pmCan't see that informally being an issue with Starmer and Davey.fishfoodie wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:38 pm
if they meet now; before the GE gets called, & the pressures off; they can agree some non-compete constituencies; & maybe criteria, for others where both are technically in with a shout
sefton wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:37 pm In fact it wasn’t even close, it’s a two horse race. Vote Labour to get that twat Moore out.
Indeed.petej wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:49 pmI have loads of time for Rory Stewart. Would have made a good pmSaintK wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:32 pm Bullseye from Rory Stewart in the FTBoris Johnson is a terrible prime minister and a worse human being.
But he is not a monster newly sprung from a rent between this world and the next. Twenty years have passed since the Conservative party first selected him as a candidate. Michael Howard and David Cameron made him a shadow minister, and Theresa May gave him the Foreign Office. Thirty years of celebrity made him famous for his mendacity, indifference to detail, poor administration, and inveterate betrayal of every personal commitment.
Yet, knowing this, the majority of Conservative MPs, and party members, still voted for him to be prime minister. He is not, therefore, an aberration, but a product of a system that will continue to produce terrible politicians long after he is gone.
MPs selected him because they would not risk the possibility of a smaller majority under a better leader. Winning mattered more than governing well. And the public often seems to share this indifference