Not Italy Again

[sturginho]

Yes it's us again

Who:




vs



Where:



When: Sunday 13th Feb 3pm - ITV

[sturginho]

Teams for the u20s (Friday at 7pm)

Italy:
15 MEY Francois Carlo (HBS Colorno)
14 PANI Lorenzo (Benetton Rugby Treviso Srl)
13 PASSARELLA Dewi (Ruggers Tarvisium)
12 FUSARI Arturo (Fiamme Oro Rugby)
11 LAZZARIN Filippo (Petrarca Rugby)
10 TENEGGI Nicolò (Valorugby Emilia)
9 GARBISI Alessandro (Mogliano Rugby 1969 Ssd Arl)

8 FERRARI Giacomo (C) (Unione Rugby Capitolina)
7 BERLESE Carlos (Ruggers Tarvisium Asd)
6 ODIASE David (HBS Colorno)
5 ANDREOLI Riccardo (FEMI-CZ Rovigo)
4 ORTOMBINA Alessandro (Valorugby Emilia)
3 GENOVESE Riccardo (Cus Torino)
2 FRANGINI Lapo (Accademia Nazionale Ivan Francescato)
1 RIZZOLI Luca (Unione Rugby Capitolina)

A disposizione:
16 SCRAMONCIN Tommaso (Petrarca Rugby)
17 BIZZOTTO Valerio (Rugby Bassano 1976)
18 BERNARDINELLO Matteo (Petrarca Rugby)
19 RUBINATO Matteo (Benetton Rugby)
20 CENEDESE Giovanni (Villorba Rugby)
21 TOMASELLI Gianluca (G.S. Fiamme Oro Rugby Roma)
22 SANTE Giovanni (Mogliano Rugby 1969)
23 FORONCELLI Paul Marie (Rangers Vicenza)


England:
15. George Hendy (Northampton Saints, Caps 1)
14. Deago Bailey (Bristol Bears, Caps 4)
13. Tom Litchfield (Northampton Saints, Caps 3)
12. Ethan Grayson (Northampton Saints, Caps 1)
11. Francis Moore (Saracens, Caps 0)
10. Jamie Benson (Harlequins, Caps 1)
9. Matty Jones (Gloucester Rugby, Caps 1)
1. Fin Baxter (Harlequins, Caps 2) – Capitano
2. John Stewart (Bath Rugby, Caps 2)
3. Mikey Summerfield (London Irish, Caps 1)
4. Alfie Bell (Wasps, Caps 1)
5. Tom Lockett (Northampton Saints, Caps 1)
6. Alex Wardell (Saracens, Caps 1)
7. Toby Knight (Saracens, Caps 1)
8. Emeka Ilione (Leicester Tigers, Caps 2)

A disposizione:
16. Finn Theobald-Thomas (Worcester Warriors, Caps 0)
17. Mark Dormer (Newcastle, Caps 1)
18. Will Hobson (Harlequins, Caps 1)
19. Charlie Rice (Bristol Bears, Caps 1)
20. Greg Fisilau (Wasps, Caps 1)
21. Sam Edwards (Leicester Tigers, Caps 0)
22. Louie Johnson (Newcastle Falcons, Caps 1)
23. Ollie Dawkins (Wasps, Caps 1)

[Kawazaki]

Subs are called 'disposables' in Italian?

Still better than finishers.

[sturginho]

"a disposizione" just means "available"

If you like I can change it to "finishers" in keeping with the silly lingo that seems to have permeated the sport recently

[Lobby]

Subs are called 'disposables' in Italian?

Still better than finishers.

Eddie treats the whole team (and especially the Wasps players) as disposable, so its probably more appropriate than 'finishers'

[Lobby]

Teams for the u20s (Friday at 7pm)

Italy:
15 MEY Francois Carlo (HBS Colorno)
14 PANI Lorenzo (Benetton Rugby Treviso Srl)
13 PASSARELLA Dewi (Ruggers Tarvisium)
12 FUSARI Arturo (Fiamme Oro Rugby)
11 LAZZARIN Filippo (Petrarca Rugby)
10 TENEGGI Nicolò (Valorugby Emilia)
9 GARBISI Alessandro (Mogliano Rugby 1969 Ssd Arl)

8 FERRARI Giacomo (C) (Unione Rugby Capitolina)
7 BERLESE Carlos (Ruggers Tarvisium Asd)
6 ODIASE David (HBS Colorno)
5 ANDREOLI Riccardo (FEMI-CZ Rovigo)
4 ORTOMBINA Alessandro (Valorugby Emilia)
3 GENOVESE Riccardo (Cus Torino)
2 FRANGINI Lapo (Accademia Nazionale Ivan Francescato)
1 RIZZOLI Luca (Unione Rugby Capitolina)

A disposizione:
16 SCRAMONCIN Tommaso (Petrarca Rugby)
17 BIZZOTTO Valerio (Rugby Bassano 1976)
18 BERNARDINELLO Matteo (Petrarca Rugby)
19 RUBINATO Matteo (Benetton Rugby)
20 CENEDESE Giovanni (Villorba Rugby)
21 TOMASELLI Gianluca (G.S. Fiamme Oro Rugby Roma)
22 SANTE Giovanni (Mogliano Rugby 1969)
23 FORONCELLI Paul Marie (Rangers Vicenza)


England:
15. George Hendy (Northampton Saints, Caps 1)
14. Deago Bailey (Bristol Bears, Caps 4)
13. Tom Litchfield (Northampton Saints, Caps 3)
12. Ethan Grayson (Northampton Saints, Caps 1)
11. Francis Moore (Saracens, Caps 0)
10. Jamie Benson (Harlequins, Caps 1)
9. Matty Jones (Gloucester Rugby, Caps 1)
1. Fin Baxter (Harlequins, Caps 2) – Capitano
2. John Stewart (Bath Rugby, Caps 2)
3. Mikey Summerfield (London Irish, Caps 1)
4. Alfie Bell (Wasps, Caps 1)
5. Tom Lockett (Northampton Saints, Caps 1)
6. Alex Wardell (Saracens, Caps 1)
7. Toby Knight (Saracens, Caps 1)
8. Emeka Ilione (Leicester Tigers, Caps 2)

A disposizione:
16. Finn Theobald-Thomas (Worcester Warriors, Caps 0)
17. Mark Dormer (Newcastle, Caps 1)
18. Will Hobson (Harlequins, Caps 1)
19. Charlie Rice (Bristol Bears, Caps 1)
20. Greg Fisilau (Wasps, Caps 1)
21. Sam Edwards (Leicester Tigers, Caps 0)
22. Louie Johnson (Newcastle Falcons, Caps 1)
23. Ollie Dawkins (Wasps, Caps 1)

Shame Arundell's been dropped. I would have liked to have seen more of this sort of play

[sockwithaticket]

Subs are called 'disposables' in Italian?

Still better than finishers.

Eddie treats the whole team (and especially the Wasps players) as disposable, so its probably more appropriate than 'finishers'

I'm genuinely so relived Launch only spent a couple of days in camp before coming back to the club where we treat him like the precious bean he is.

[JM2K6]

Subs are called 'disposables' in Italian?

Still better than finishers.

Eddie treats the whole team (and especially the Wasps players) as disposable, so its probably more appropriate than 'finishers'

I'm genuinely so relived Launch only spent a couple of days in camp before coming back to the club where we treat him like the precious bean he is.

If there's one thing you can say about Wasps these days, it's that they don't injure their players...?

[sockwithaticket]

Eddie treats the whole team (and especially the Wasps players) as disposable, so its probably more appropriate than 'finishers'

I'm genuinely so relived Launch only spent a couple of days in camp before coming back to the club where we treat him like the precious bean he is.

If there's one thing you can say about Wasps these days, it's that they don't injure their players...?

Shhh, Eddie bad.

Also, I'd be amazed if Joe isn't managed more closely than, say. Ben Morris.

[tc27]

Excellent setup to this thread.

[petej]

Shame Arundell's been dropped. I would have liked to have seen more of this sort of play

He hasn't been dropped. He is starting for London Irish which I'm pretty sure has priority over the u20's.

[JM2K6]

Showed good wheels here too

[Happyhooker]

Showed good wheels here too

Impressive from the Scottish 4 there as well

[Torquemada 1420]

Subs are called 'disposables' in Italian?

Still better than finishers.

Get an education. Like French (disponible), it means available. But even in Inggurrrrlish, "to be at one's diposal" is available.

[sockwithaticket]

[sturginho]

Italy
15 Edoardo PADOVANI (Benetton Rugby, 31 caps)
14 Federico MORI (Bordeaux, 11 caps)
13 Juan Ignacio BREX (Benetton Rugby, 9 caps)
12 Marco ZANON (Benetton Rugby, 8 caps)
11 Montanna IOANE (Benetton Rugby, 10 caps)
10 Paolo GARBISI (Montpellier, 14 caps)
9 Stephen VARNEY (Gloucester Rugby, 10 caps)

8 Toa HALAFIHI (Benetton Rugby, 1 cap)
7 Michele LAMARO (Benetton Rugby, 11 caps) – capitano
6 Braam STEYN (Benetton Rugby, 46 caps)
5 Federico RUZZA (Benetton Rugby, 26 caps)
4 Niccolò CANNONE (Benetton Rugby, 16 caps)
3 Pietro CECCARELLI (Brive, 17 caps)
2 Gianmarco LUCCHESI (Benetton Rugby, 9 caps)
1 Danilo FISCHETTI (Zebre Parma, 16 caps)

Finitori:
16 Epalahame FAIVA (Benetton Rugby, 2 caps)
17 Cherif TRAORE’ (Benetton Rugby, 12 caps)
18 Tiziano PASQUALI (Benetton rugby, 22 caps)
19 David SISI (Zebre Parma, 18 caps)
20 Sebastian NEGRI (Benetton Rugby, 37 caps)
21 Giovanni PETTINELLI (Benetton Rugby, 2 caps)
22 Alessandro FUSCO (Fiamme Oro Rugby/Zebre Parma, 2 caps)
23 Leonardo MARIN (Benetton Rugby, 1 caps)

[sturginho]

What's the score pls?

[sturginho]

Nevermind, 6-0 after 45 mins

[sturginho]

Immense fucking defending

[Slick]

Immense fucking defending

Seriously impressive team

[sockwithaticket]

Italy's scrum just skull fucked ours.

[sturginho]

Someone call Caressa Dick England's scrum just got murdered!

[sockwithaticket]

Italy's goal kicking rate is England's mvp so far.

[sturginho]

Need to keep their composure in these key moments

[sturginho]

Need to keep their composure in these key moments

Ripeto...

[Slick]

Need to keep their composure in these key moments

Ripeto...

Can barely watch mate. Switched over from the Scotland game

[sockwithaticket]

Oh come on, there's nothing in that. Based on this she's been right to ignore the TMO most of the game.

[Lobby]

Oh come on, there's nothing in that. Based on this she's been right to ignore the TMO most of the game.

She’s been superb so far, but has been forced into giving a penalty by the TMO.

[Slick]

Oh come on, there's nothing in that. Based on this she's been right to ignore the TMO most of the game.

TMO was an absolute disgrace there. Put the ref under pressure again and again. Really awful stuff

[sockwithaticket]

Oh come on, there's nothing in that. Based on this she's been right to ignore the TMO most of the game.

She’s been superb so far, but has been forced into giving a penalty by the TMO.

Hope he gets a dressing down from the assessors. Like you say, she's been grand and he's gone out of his way to force her into making a decision she's clearly not comfortable with.

[sturginho]

Oh come on, there's nothing in that. Based on this she's been right to ignore the TMO most of the game.

TMO was an absolute disgrace there. Put the ref under pressure again and again. Really awful stuff

Agreed

[sockwithaticket]

Oh come on, there's nothing in that. Based on this she's been right to ignore the TMO most of the game.

She’s been superb so far, but has been forced into giving a penalty by the TMO.

Haven't seen the like from a TMO in a while.

[Slick]

Italian 10 has been really, really poor in the last 15 minutes

[sturginho]

I can't fucking watch!

[sockwithaticket]

Italian 10 has been really, really poor in the last 15 minutes

Forwards should demand the 9 just keep giving it to them. They've got the beating of our lads.

[sturginho]

This game has taken 10 years off my life....

[sockwithaticket]

English staff with letters on their bibs not covering themselves in glory there.

Ref appeared to be answering the physio(? P bib) questioning whether they were checking for fould play. Not his palce at all to be weighing in on that.

The doc (D bib) should know that there's an independent doctor capable of insisting on an HIA.

[Slick]

Really good reffing again in the face of English shithousery

[I like neeps]

What a f"cking win for Italy this will be!

Their 20s have been good for a long time. It's not long now, buy futures in Italian rugby!

[Lobby]

Really good reffing again in the face of English shithousery

Yes, she’s been really clear and decisive the whole game.

Oh and well done Italy. Thoroughly deserved win