Not Italy Again

[PCPhil]

Eddie’s power subs really do change the momentum.

[sockwithaticket]

Speaking about pace. I watched Sarries quins earlier and noted how fast Lynagh and Lewington were compared to say Nowell.

My 62 year old mum could probably give Nowell a run for his money in the pace stakes.

[Hal Jordan]

Curry needs to grab some English neck scruffs.

[Oxbow]

There must be better tightheads around than Will Stuart

Kieran Brooks and Paul Hill both looked promising until northamponed.

HenryThomas looked tidy for bath until injury.

Who else is on list of not quites?

Hey, I'll take we ruined Hill but Brookes has been disappointing pretty much wherever he's turned up.

[sockwithaticket]

There must be better tightheads around than Will Stuart

Kieran Brooks and Paul Hill both looked promising until northamponed.

HenryThomas looked tidy for bath until injury.

Who else is on list of not quites?

Hey, I'll take we ruined Hill but Brookes has been disappointing pretty much wherever he's turned up.

He was good for Wasps. One to one scrummaging in Dai Young's kitchen clearly did something for him

[C69]

Good old box kick

[Margin__Walker]

Drive 15 yards then box kick. Perfect

[PCPhil]

Drive 15 yards then box kick. Perfect

Was going to post reply. Then just, sigh…..

Edit. Actually no. It just f’s everything up. Slow,slow,slow. The message spreads throughout the side. Just wrong for the supposed aims of fast and aggresive.

[Margin__Walker]

Drive 15 yards then box kick. Perfect

Was going to post reply. Then just, sigh…..

26 - 0 up FFS.

Why?

[fishfoodie]

This game has me pining for the entertainment Wales & Scotland gave us yesterday....

[petej]

There must be better tightheads around than Will Stuart

Kieran Brooks and Paul Hill both looked promising until northamponed.

HenryThomas looked tidy for bath until injury.

Who else is on list of not quites?

Hey, I'll take we ruined Hill but Brookes has been disappointing pretty much wherever he's turned up.

Joe Heyes?

[sockwithaticket]

Considering the championships England have lost on points difference in the not too distant past, you'd think there might be a bit more urgency and intent here to run up a score, but not we're aimlessly kicking the ball and generally farting around.

[Margin__Walker]

Not sure about that one. Two Italian players flew off their feet before that.

[Paddington Bear]

Defence is a positive I guess. Youngs is Youngs, our subs used to IIRC add urgency and intensity. Now they kill our momentum every week. Win’s a win I guess

[Crash669]

Do England get another win in this six Nations? Only one I could see is Wales if they play like they did against ireland, but I can't see them being that poor against us.

We're just a very average team under Jones.

[Margin__Walker]

That's better

[Hal Jordan]

Oh look, some pace on the ball and we get somewhere.

[Paddington Bear]

Good try tbf, Smith reading it well. No issue with us kicking to chase

[C69]

Do England get another win in this six Nations? Only one I could see is Wales if they play like they did against ireland, but I can't see them being that poor against us.

We're just a very average team under Jones.

Wales will have Toby and Adams back for the next game and possibly Navidi

[Hal Jordan]

WHAT THE FUCK IS JONES FUCKING DOING?

[Slick]

Eddie just basically being a cunt to Ford, because he can.

[sockwithaticket]

Do England get another win in this six Nations? Only one I could see is Wales if they play like they did against ireland, but I can't see them being that poor against us.

We're just a very average team under Jones.

Wales will have Toby and Adams back for the next game and possibly Navidi

You'd have him back in the national squad a mere 2 weeks into his return from a long injury layoff? He was bang average against Wasps yesterday.

[inactionman]

Do England get another win in this six Nations? Only one I could see is Wales if they play like they did against ireland, but I can't see them being that poor against us.

We're just a very average team under Jones.

Wales will have Toby and Adams back for the next game and possibly Navidi

You'd have him back in the national squad a mere 2 weeks into his return from a long injury layoff? He was bang average against Wasps yesterday.

Now you've done it.

[C69]

Do England get another win in this six Nations? Only one I could see is Wales if they play like they did against ireland, but I can't see them being that poor against us.

We're just a very average team under Jones.

Wales will have Toby and Adams back for the next game and possibly Navidi

You'd have him back in the national squad a mere 2 weeks into his return from a long injury layoff? He was bang average against Wasps yesterday.

I would have Navidi back if fit tbh.
Missed Toby's comeback

[Kawazaki]

There must be better tightheads around than Will Stuart

Kieran Brooks and Paul Hill both looked promising until northamponed.

HenryThomas looked tidy for bath until injury.

Who else is on list of not quites?

Hey, I'll take we ruined Hill but Brookes has been disappointing pretty much wherever he's turned up.

Harvey Beaton could be first choice THP at Saracens next season. He's very good.

[sockwithaticket]

Wales will have Toby and Adams back for the next game and possibly Navidi

You'd have him back in the national squad a mere 2 weeks into his return from a long injury layoff? He was bang average against Wasps yesterday.

Now you've done it.

It's part of my cunning plan to get Eddie the sack.

[Paddington Bear]

Possible to read too much into this

[Crash669]

Possible to read too much into this

Also possible to see it as part of a consistent trend under eddie jones back.

[Torquemada 1420]

I realise it's early days but given the furore surrounding him, Steward has been invisible in the 2 matches.

[petej]

Eddie just basically being a cunt to Ford, because he can.

Well that isn't anything new. Ford should really just tell him to fuck off and retire from international duty. he's been pissed around by fuckwits his whole international career. Marcus Smith is damn lucky there isn't a limited bigger kicking 10 as an alternative to him at a similar age.

[Kawazaki]

Steward has taken the Mike Brown 'die with the ball' crown with aplomb

[Paddington Bear]

Possible to read too much into this

Also possible to see it as part of a consistent trend under eddie jones back.

Not convinced - 90% of games for all teams v Italy turn ragged/turgid. France were the same last week

[sockwithaticket]

Eddie just basically being a cunt to Ford, because he can.

Well that isn't anything new. Ford should really just tell him to fuck off and retire from international duty. he's been pissed around by fuckwits his whole international career. Marcus Smith is damn lucky there isn't a limited bigger kicking 10 as an alternative to him at a similar age.

[Hal Jordan]

Confused end to a game that petered out.

[Kawazaki]

I realise it's early days but given the furore surrounding him, Steward has been invisible in the 2 matches.

He looks like a tall Mike Brown. Which isn't a good thing.

[sockwithaticket]

I realise it's early days but given the furore surrounding him, Steward has been invisible in the 2 matches.

I think it's fair to say that the media took his good first few caps and went massively overboard with hype.

[Slick]

Ref has had a poor game.

That was very, very dull

[PCPhil]

Well that……..ended.

[Crash669]

I realise it's early days but given the furore surrounding him, Steward has been invisible in the 2 matches.

He looks like a tall Mike Brown. Which isn't a good thing.

You and I remember Mike Brown's career very differently.

[Lobby]

I realise it's early days but given the furore surrounding him, Steward has been invisible in the 2 matches.

I think it's fair to say that the media took his good first few caps and went massively overboard with hype.

His lack of pace has been a bit of a problem, particularly in this game. Malins too. Might have been less of an issue if Radwan was on the wing.