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Moved from Argentina in 2001, started with Italy in 2002, less than a year later. Dpends how much time he spent out of the country etc.Raggs wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:49 am Actually he did qualify through residency for most of his various. Only the first year or so was cheating.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Laughing intensifiesEnergiseR2 wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:48 am Did he play in our defeat in 2013. The laughing will stop now that people hear we were cheated
The fact he was playing for an Italian club likely means he was good. I think even time out of country is couched in terms of what was the reason. Most of his was probably playing for Italy :D.Biffer wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:55 amMoved from Argentina in 2001, started with Italy in 2002, less than a year later. Dpends how much time he spent out of the country etc.Raggs wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:49 am Actually he did qualify through residency for most of his various. Only the first year or so was cheating.
Give a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Spending time out of the country playing for a country that you were yet to qualify for by residency is an interesting contribution to your residency qualification!Raggs wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:00 amThe fact he was playing for an Italian club likely means he was good. I think even time out of country is couched in terms of what was the reason. Most of his was probably playing for Italy :D.Biffer wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:55 amMoved from Argentina in 2001, started with Italy in 2002, less than a year later. Dpends how much time he spent out of the country etc.Raggs wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:49 am Actually he did qualify through residency for most of his various. Only the first year or so was cheating.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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What were the various qualifying criteria back when he got his first cap?Raggs wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:49 am Actually he did qualify through residency for most of his various. Only the first year or so was cheating.
Born in said country
Have a parent and/or grandparent from said country
Have gained residency eligibility over 3 years
I don't actually remember when the residency thing even came in but I'd be willing to bet (a small amount of) money it was in the 90s, and I don't think it was ever less than 3 years, could easily be talking bollocks on both those points
I didn't even realise he was born ArgentinianEnergiseR2 wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:26 amHe sounds Italian. That was the worst partGuy Smiley wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:58 amLaughing intensifiesEnergiseR2 wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:48 am Did he play in our defeat in 2013. The laughing will stop now that people hear we were cheated



Rhubarb & Custard wrote:Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:28 am
What were the various qualifying criteria back when he got his first cap?
In Wales there was strict governance around that time regards eligibility. Prospective players had to answer yes to the following question;
Will you play for Wales please?
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Me neither, I'd have sworn he was Mediterranean given that luscious barnet.SaintK wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:37 amI didn't even realise he was born Argentinian![]()
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I thought it was well known he and Parisse were Argentine born. Although Parisse was clearly and obviously qualified through his parents.SaintK wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:37 amI didn't even realise he was born Argentinian![]()
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TBF, I'm actually delighted to read this thread was just about his playing status... I was genuinely worried before opening that it would be some ghastly MND diagnosis or something - too much of that godawful shit going down right now.
Glad he's ok!
Glad he's ok!
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Same. It was mentioned often enough in commentary.
Ouch.Kawazaki wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:23 pmRhubarb & Custard wrote:Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:28 am
What were the various qualifying criteria back when he got his first cap?
In Wales there was strict governance around that time regards eligibility. Prospective players had to answer yes to the following question;
Will you play for Wales please?
Admittedly it was only a quick Google but I didn’t find a categorical statement from him that he was ineligible, only that he qualified via his ggrandfather. It’s then a question of whether that made him eligible under the rules as they were at the time.
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He lets the cat out of the bag pretty categorically in this. He's no Italian born grandparents.GogLais wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:37 pm Admittedly it was only a quick Google but I didn’t find a categorical statement from him that he was ineligible, only that he qualified via his ggrandfather. It’s then a question of whether that made him eligible under the rules as they were at the time.
https://www.todosobreitalia.com/2022/08 ... to-italia/
Knew about Parisse but Castro being Argentinian somehow passed me by
Indeed. The question seems to be whether he was eligible for Italy under the (looser?) rules at the time.Margin__Walker wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:42 pmHe lets the cat out of the bag pretty categorically in this. He's no Italian born grandparents.GogLais wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:37 pm Admittedly it was only a quick Google but I didn’t find a categorical statement from him that he was ineligible, only that he qualified via his ggrandfather. It’s then a question of whether that made him eligible under the rules as they were at the time.
https://www.todosobreitalia.com/2022/08 ... to-italia/
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Great grand parent alone has never counted in the pro era. Not heard of it ever counting.GogLais wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:41 pmIndeed. The question seems to be whether he was eligible for Italy under the (looser?) rules at the time.Margin__Walker wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:42 pmHe lets the cat out of the bag pretty categorically in this. He's no Italian born grandparents.GogLais wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:37 pm Admittedly it was only a quick Google but I didn’t find a categorical statement from him that he was ineligible, only that he qualified via his ggrandfather. It’s then a question of whether that made him eligible under the rules as they were at the time.
https://www.todosobreitalia.com/2022/08 ... to-italia/
He wasn't eligible
It is not quite the same, but David Hylton played numerus times for Scotland before it was realised he was not eligible.
The difference is he genuinely believed his grandfather was Scots born. As I recall it was when various other dodgy eligibilities were being discovered he was asked to validate it, and found what he had believed was wrong.
The difference is he genuinely believed his grandfather was Scots born. As I recall it was when various other dodgy eligibilities were being discovered he was asked to validate it, and found what he had believed was wrong.
One of his defenders was suggesting that at the time countries could basically make up their own eligibility rules and they were only standardised after he started playing for Italy. I've no idea whether that's true, I appreciate it may be bollox.Margin__Walker wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:07 pmGreat grand parent alone has never counted in the pro era. Not heard of it ever counting.GogLais wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:41 pmIndeed. The question seems to be whether he was eligible for Italy under the (looser?) rules at the time.Margin__Walker wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:42 pm
He lets the cat out of the bag pretty categorically in this. He's no Italian born grandparents.
https://www.todosobreitalia.com/2022/08 ... to-italia/
He wasn't eligible