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tabascoboy wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:38 am How do seemingly reasonable people still fall for this charlatan?
Defence Secretary Ben Wallace has ruled himself out of the Tory leadership race and says he would "lean towards" supporting Boris Johnson at the moment.
If he does get back in (i.e. if he gets over 100 MP's, because the membership will put him back in) then I really hope it shows how unserious the Tory party are right now. Through resignations and crossing the floor it could well be the end of the Tory party. That's what they deserve.

But I've been so wrong about this country so many times. They'll probably put him back in, call a GE and win a thumping majority.
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C T wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:35 pm
tabascoboy wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:38 am How do seemingly reasonable people still fall for this charlatan?
Defence Secretary Ben Wallace has ruled himself out of the Tory leadership race and says he would "lean towards" supporting Boris Johnson at the moment.
If he does get back in (i.e. if he gets over 100 MP's, because the membership will put him back in) then I really hope it shows how unserious the Tory party are right now. Through resignations and crossing the floor it could well be the end of the Tory party. That's what they deserve.

But I've been so wrong about this country so many times. They'll probably put him back in, call a GE and win a thumping majority.
You just hope enough people see that anyone backing Boris is just doing it as a last ditch effort to keep their jobs, nothing to do with the country. They won't.
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tabascoboy wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 12:48 pm From one Tory to another

Remember when this shit said the UK now had a, "Presidential Style", system; & if the Bumblecunt was toppled, there would have to be a GE ?

Does he still believe that ??, or was he lying then, & now he knows if there were a GE, he'd get less votes than the Monster Raving Loony Candidate.
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Slick wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:02 pm
C T wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:35 pm
tabascoboy wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:38 am How do seemingly reasonable people still fall for this charlatan?


If he does get back in (i.e. if he gets over 100 MP's, because the membership will put him back in) then I really hope it shows how unserious the Tory party are right now. Through resignations and crossing the floor it could well be the end of the Tory party. That's what they deserve.

But I've been so wrong about this country so many times. They'll probably put him back in, call a GE and win a thumping majority.
You just hope enough people see that anyone backing Boris is just doing it as a last ditch effort to keep their jobs, nothing to do with the country. They won't.
If put to the membership he’ll be PM again. All the tories that said they couldn’t serve with him will shut up and talk about ‘good of the country not to call an election…..’ and more cowardly shit like that. The standards enquiry will be forced to find him in the clear and the tory press will have 2 years to say what a great man of the people leader he is whilst everything turns to shit.
“It was a pet, not an animal. It had a name, you don't eat things with names, this is horrific!”
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PCPhil wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:16 pm
Slick wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:02 pm
C T wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:35 pm

If he does get back in (i.e. if he gets over 100 MP's, because the membership will put him back in) then I really hope it shows how unserious the Tory party are right now. Through resignations and crossing the floor it could well be the end of the Tory party. That's what they deserve.

But I've been so wrong about this country so many times. They'll probably put him back in, call a GE and win a thumping majority.
You just hope enough people see that anyone backing Boris is just doing it as a last ditch effort to keep their jobs, nothing to do with the country. They won't.
If put to the membership he’ll be PM again. All the tories that said they couldn’t serve with him will shut up and talk about ‘good of the country not to call an election…..’ and more cowardly shit like that. The standards enquiry will be forced to find him in the clear and the tory press will have 2 years to say what a great man of the people leader he is whilst everything turns to shit.
Will need a lot more than that needed
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Narrator: But they won't.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:39 pm Narrator: But they won't.
I read that in Morgan Freeman's voice
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Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:39 pm Narrator: But they won't.
Yep. Real 'hold me back' energy
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JM2K6 wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:53 pm
In war, disinformation can be a powerful weapon…..
“It was a pet, not an animal. It had a name, you don't eat things with names, this is horrific!”
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JM2K6 wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:53 pm
One can but hope and pray
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JM2K6 wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:53 pm
Narrator: But Alexander Johnson ignored it, and Boris said some Latin waffle and called it balderdash and everyone laughed and said it was a witch hunt led by the MSM and Remoaners, and nothing happened.
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SaintK wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:22 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:53 pm
One can but hope and pray
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Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:47 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:53 pm
Narrator: But Alexander Johnson ignored it, and Boris said some Latin waffle and called it balderdash and everyone laughed and said it was a witch hunt led by the MSM and Remoaners, and nothing happened.
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Well Penny Mordaunt currently remains the only one so far to confirm she is running, despite having the apparently smallest backing, with only 19 endorsements. Sunak and Johnson being more cagey maybe to wait to see if they get the 100? Suppose none of them do...?
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As an outsider looking in, I'm gobsmacked that Johnson's name is even in the conversation. The feckless Tories are utterly incapable of governing. Surely the only credible step is to hold a general election?? Broken Britain. :sad:
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Gumboot wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 6:25 pm As an outsider looking in, I'm gobsmacked that Johnson's name is even in the conversation. The feckless Tories are utterly incapable of governing. Surely the only credible step is to hold a general election?? Broken Britain. :sad:
This. You're left scratching your head going wtf?! Seriously!? Does it say so much about the quality of the other potential candidates? Or is assuming power now a political death knell, a poisoned chalice that nobody actually wants?
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Flockwitt wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:20 pm
Gumboot wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 6:25 pm As an outsider looking in, I'm gobsmacked that Johnson's name is even in the conversation. The feckless Tories are utterly incapable of governing. Surely the only credible step is to hold a general election?? Broken Britain. :sad:
This. You're left scratching your head going wtf?! Seriously!? Does it say so much about the quality of the other potential candidates? Or is assuming power now a political death knell, a poisoned chalice that nobody actually wants?
I think there’s a parallel to be found with both Australia and the US…. Conservative side of politics holding power and simply brassing out the corruption and incompetence within their ranks thinking they can ride it out and hold power, that being the only objective.

I don’t mean to suggest the more liberal side will offer up any contrasting miracle of improvement as that remains to be seen but what we have seen is the take over and owning of the political landscape by corporate interests…

the Greens in Australia have been pushing the line of State Capture. I think it’s valid.
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Flockwitt wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:20 pm
Gumboot wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 6:25 pm As an outsider looking in, I'm gobsmacked that Johnson's name is even in the conversation. The feckless Tories are utterly incapable of governing. Surely the only credible step is to hold a general election?? Broken Britain. :sad:
This. You're left scratching your head going wtf?! Seriously!? Does it say so much about the quality of the other potential candidates? Or is assuming power now a political death knell, a poisoned chalice that nobody actually wants?
A little. They're all lightweights with little or no prospect of actually doing things to help the country out of the mess 12 years of their party being in power has created. However, Johnson isn't any different on that front. He's a feckless sleaze who likes the title of PM and nothing else about the role. He just has something about him, I suppose you might call it charisma, that seems to appeal to certain people. That's his point of difference from the others.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:41 pm
Flockwitt wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:20 pm
Gumboot wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 6:25 pm As an outsider looking in, I'm gobsmacked that Johnson's name is even in the conversation. The feckless Tories are utterly incapable of governing. Surely the only credible step is to hold a general election?? Broken Britain. :sad:
This. You're left scratching your head going wtf?! Seriously!? Does it say so much about the quality of the other potential candidates? Or is assuming power now a political death knell, a poisoned chalice that nobody actually wants?
A little. They're all lightweights with little or no prospect of actually doing things to help the country out of the mess 12 years of their party being in power has created. However, Johnson isn't any different on that front. He's a feckless sleaze who likes the title of PM and nothing else about the role. He just has something about him, I suppose you might call it charisma, that seems to appeal to certain people. That's his point of difference from the others.


Johnson portrays himself as a jolly little fellow, the sort you could get on with.

Until he is confronted with uncomfortable facts and then he immediately turns into a spoilt wee shite who lashes out at everyone around him when he doesn't get what he demands he is entitled to - there's footage of him at mayoral meetings in London that show this only too well. It also fits with what everyone who has had the misfortune to deal with him says.

He was never fit to be in a major office, nothing has changed
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Guy Smiley wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:15 pm
Flockwitt wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:20 pm
Gumboot wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 6:25 pm As an outsider looking in, I'm gobsmacked that Johnson's name is even in the conversation. The feckless Tories are utterly incapable of governing. Surely the only credible step is to hold a general election?? Broken Britain. :sad:
This. You're left scratching your head going wtf?! Seriously!? Does it say so much about the quality of the other potential candidates? Or is assuming power now a political death knell, a poisoned chalice that nobody actually wants?
I think there’s a parallel to be found with both Australia and the US…. Conservative side of politics holding power and simply brassing out the corruption and incompetence within their ranks thinking they can ride it out and hold power, that being the only objective.

I don’t mean to suggest the more liberal side will offer up any contrasting miracle of improvement as that remains to be seen but what we have seen is the take over and owning of the political landscape by corporate interests…

the Greens in Australia have been pushing the line of State Capture. I think it’s valid.
This resonates with me. Democracy and the well being of the country at large is under thread, my worry is the unlike the US the British might be fooled again.
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:53 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:41 pm
Flockwitt wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:20 pm
This. You're left scratching your head going wtf?! Seriously!? Does it say so much about the quality of the other potential candidates? Or is assuming power now a political death knell, a poisoned chalice that nobody actually wants?
A little. They're all lightweights with little or no prospect of actually doing things to help the country out of the mess 12 years of their party being in power has created. However, Johnson isn't any different on that front. He's a feckless sleaze who likes the title of PM and nothing else about the role. He just has something about him, I suppose you might call it charisma, that seems to appeal to certain people. That's his point of difference from the others.


Johnson portrays himself as a jolly little fellow, the sort you could get on with.

Until he is confronted with uncomfortable facts and then he immediately turns into a spoilt wee shite who lashes out at everyone around him when he doesn't get what he demands he is entitled to - there's footage of him at mayoral meetings in London that show this only too well. It also fits with what everyone who has had the misfortune to deal with him says.

He was never fit to be in a major office, nothing has changed

Well, quite. However, if you know that then you're immune to his supposed charms. For a bewildering number of people, the zipline stunt, rugby tackling a small child, etc. and the general bumbling act is enough for them to think he's alright not matter the ever growing mountain of evidence to the contrary.
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Biffer wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:40 pm We’ve turned politics into entertainment.
Might be entertaining if the whole fkin charade wasn't at our collective expense.

It's our livelihoods. Or was.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:37 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:53 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:41 pm

A little. They're all lightweights with little or no prospect of actually doing things to help the country out of the mess 12 years of their party being in power has created. However, Johnson isn't any different on that front. He's a feckless sleaze who likes the title of PM and nothing else about the role. He just has something about him, I suppose you might call it charisma, that seems to appeal to certain people. That's his point of difference from the others.


Johnson portrays himself as a jolly little fellow, the sort you could get on with.

Until he is confronted with uncomfortable facts and then he immediately turns into a spoilt wee shite who lashes out at everyone around him when he doesn't get what he demands he is entitled to - there's footage of him at mayoral meetings in London that show this only too well. It also fits with what everyone who has had the misfortune to deal with him says.

He was never fit to be in a major office, nothing has changed

Well, quite. However, if you know that then you're immune to his supposed charms. For a bewildering number of people, the zipline stunt, rugby tackling a small child, etc. and the general bumbling act is enough for them to think he's alright not matter the ever growing mountain of evidence to the contrary.
https://yalebooks.yale.edu/2021/03/23/i ... uffoonery/

Doesn't quite capture it and I don't believe those three belong together on the scale of evil (TM) but there's something to that act and the actors that gets their PR profile going.

In his case: mostly harmless, amiable, clumsy/cuddly and oh so very electable. Even wrongdoing's in the 'family dog caught stealing a biscuit' territory. Helped heavily by image and a profound lack of detail.
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:53 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:41 pm
Flockwitt wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:20 pm
This. You're left scratching your head going wtf?! Seriously!? Does it say so much about the quality of the other potential candidates? Or is assuming power now a political death knell, a poisoned chalice that nobody actually wants?
A little. They're all lightweights with little or no prospect of actually doing things to help the country out of the mess 12 years of their party being in power has created. However, Johnson isn't any different on that front. He's a feckless sleaze who likes the title of PM and nothing else about the role. He just has something about him, I suppose you might call it charisma, that seems to appeal to certain people. That's his point of difference from the others.


Johnson portrays himself as a jolly little fellow, the sort you could get on with.

Until he is confronted with uncomfortable facts and then he immediately turns into a spoilt wee shite who lashes out at everyone around him when he doesn't get what he demands he is entitled to - there's footage of him at mayoral meetings in London that show this only too well. It also fits with what everyone who has had the misfortune to deal with him says.

He was never fit to be in a major office, nothing has changed
Problem is, he's perfected his cheeky chappie, poshboy faux scallywag persona on BBC on TV since the early '90's. So he's got brand recognition.

And when things become existential, brand recognition becomes important.

HIGNFY has a lot to answer for.
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Camroc2 wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:57 am
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:53 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:41 pm

A little. They're all lightweights with little or no prospect of actually doing things to help the country out of the mess 12 years of their party being in power has created. However, Johnson isn't any different on that front. He's a feckless sleaze who likes the title of PM and nothing else about the role. He just has something about him, I suppose you might call it charisma, that seems to appeal to certain people. That's his point of difference from the others.


Johnson portrays himself as a jolly little fellow, the sort you could get on with.

Until he is confronted with uncomfortable facts and then he immediately turns into a spoilt wee shite who lashes out at everyone around him when he doesn't get what he demands he is entitled to - there's footage of him at mayoral meetings in London that show this only too well. It also fits with what everyone who has had the misfortune to deal with him says.

He was never fit to be in a major office, nothing has changed
Problem is, he's perfected his cheeky chappie, poshboy faux scallywag persona on BBC on TV since the early '90's. So he's got brand recognition.

And when things become existential, brand recognition becomes important.

HIGNFY has a lot to answer for.
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EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:30 am We all fell for that. The hosts knew he was a cunt but didn't properly let us in on the joke
I certainly didn't fall for his foppish buffoonery wrapped around a nasty racist bigoted plutocratic cunt
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being deselected for an election where they're going to lose isnt much of a deterrent
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Was this and 60 ish billion part of Boris's intended plan:



https://twitter.com/i/status/1583216768986013701

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Insane_Homer wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:01 am

being deselected for an election where they're going to lose isnt much of a deterrent
Yep!! Can only think that's why my local MP has come out for him!! THough his 18% majority would be gone in an instant ifthere was a GE.
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SaintK wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:43 am
Insane_Homer wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:01 am

being deselected for an election where they're going to lose isnt much of a deterrent
Yep!! Can only think that's why my local MP has come out for him!! THough his 18% majority would be gone in an instant ifthere was a GE.
Easy one to dodge, threaten to defect from the Tories if they try to put pressure on you, they are then powerless as they will still be the MP until the next election.
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C69 wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:47 am
EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:30 am We all fell for that. The hosts knew he was a cunt but didn't properly let us in on the joke
I certainly didn't fall for his foppish buffoonery wrapped around a nasty racist bigoted plutocratic cunt
There is still a strong 'doff the cap' to your betters mentality, in parts of England predominately, where folk think that the posh Lord of the Manor has a god given right to be in charge and tell them what to do. They enjoy their serfdom. If he also seems a 'jolly chap' and makes them laugh then even better. This runs parallel with an innate belief in these people that ordinary folk aren't capable of being in charge and running the country, they don't have the posh education, and if they try and they must be 'Socialists or Communists' or suchlike. The Blonde Bumblecunt plays the jolly Lord of the Manor role very well. In parts of the country however, such as Scotland, this mentality has disappeared and the explains why the likes of the Fat Slug are seen with utter contempt and explains why he shits himself every time he comes north of the border and visits are carefully controlled. He has done more walkabouts in Kiev than he has in Scotland. He is a Cnut.
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She thinks she can get her old job back?

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tabascoboy wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:00 pm She thinks she can get her old job back?

Talking of which I see Sir (where the fuck did that come from) James Duddridge is trying to outdo Dorries for the Order of the Brown Nose medal with Boris. Without a doubt he will think he can make it to Foreign Secretary which is probably about right for this government as he is a talentless cock.
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Jockaline wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:28 am Was this and 60 ish billion part of Boris's intended plan:



https://twitter.com/i/status/1583216768986013701

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C69 wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:42 pm
Jockaline wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:28 am Was this and 60 ish billion part of Boris's intended plan:



https://twitter.com/i/status/1583216768986013701

:shock:
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Meant to post this link too
https://twitter.com/NathanYeowell/statu ... 8635718656
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