Stop voting for fucking Tories

[Slick]

She thinks she can get her old job back?

Talking of which I see Sir (where the fuck did that come from) James Duddridge is trying to outdo Dorries for the Order of the Brown Nose medal with Boris. Without a doubt he will think he can make it to Foreign Secretary which is probably about right for this government as he is a talentless cock.

[Ymx]

Yes, sure, he’s a biased git. But that doesn’t detract from what she said. It’s such a lazy argument.

And it is certainly not only this guy reporting it.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/bbc ... 314022.amp

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/1 ... eadership/

[petej]

Yes, sure, he’s a biased git. But that doesn’t detract from what she said. It’s such a lazy argument.

And it is certainly not only this guy reporting it.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/bbc ... 314022.amp

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/1 ... eadership/

Suspect she has encountered Boris and knows what an absolute shitbag he is. The problem with impartiality and balance is when you have an absolute shitbag on one side and not on the other. Like trying to remain impartial and balanced between putin and Zelensky. Johnson and starmer is hard to remain balanced as Johnson is a completely dishonest, corrupt career bullshitter and starmer is basically dull. There isn't enough to report on starmer to balance out whatever Johnson had been up to.

[sockwithaticket]

Yes, sure, he’s a biased git. But that doesn’t detract from what she said. It’s such a lazy argument.

And it is certainly not only this guy reporting it.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/bbc ... 314022.amp

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/1 ... eadership/

I suggest you go back to the response Lobby gave you.

Besides which, rabid right wing rags latching onto a Guido talking point is hardly a surprise.

[The sun god]

PM Rishi.......

[sturginho]

Rishi wins

[PCPhil]

Jolly exciting. Is he going for a low cost coronation like Chuckie?

[Margin__Walker]

Care to enlighten us morons about the actual context of the glee? Or are you going to double down and sling out phrases like fascist nazis as well.

You're the one getting excited about the article. I thought you'd be able to tell us what she's gleeful about.

Not sure, genius. But you seemed pretty sure a minute ago when you were calling it misleading and out of context, that you felt the need to shout moron.

Is this finger in ears moment, shouting wanker/moron … I’m not listening.

She's on the TV on the Sunday night News 24 graveyard shift. It's a shit gig, but there's big breaking news happening as the front pages are hitting the press. This is as exciting as it ever gets presenting that paper review programme.

At no fucking point in the programme does she say or suggest she's happy Boris is withdrawing or happy about the state of the Conservative party.

Of course it's hit the press. Because it's been successfully seeded by disingenuous pricks and amplified by morons, as that's how things work.

[Ovals]

Whatever we think about the Tories and Rishi, this is still a historic moment.

[Insane_Homer]

Whatever we think about the Tories and Rishi, this is still a historic moment.

A new leader, in an apparent democracy, being decided by less than 0.0002% of the population?

[fishfoodie]

Whatever we think about the Tories and Rishi, this is still a historic moment.

Pick a lowlight

- Most changes of Leadership without involving the Plebs
- Smallest Candidate list, & shortest contest
- First Tax Exile PM
- First PM with plans to leave the Country, & renounce his citizenship of the UK


Shall I go on ?

[Insane_Homer]

Pick a lowlight

- Most changes of Leadership without involving the Plebs
- Smallest Candidate list, & shortest contest
- First Tax Exile PM
- First PM with plans to leave the Country, & renounce his citizenship of the UK

Shall I go on ?

+ Broke the Law
+ Green card

[tabascoboy]

Whatever we think about the Tories and Rishi, this is still a historic moment.

Yep, not everyone seems pleased though...

[The sun god]

I assume that Sunak is going to unleash a jihad on the present cabinet as 6 or 7 of them were backing the return of 'the blond idiot ' !!

[Biffer]

Gerry from Lowestoft will be beelin.

[Ovals]

Whatever we think about the Tories and Rishi, this is still a historic moment.

A new leader, in an apparent democracy, being decided by less than 0.0002% of the population?

We're a Parliamentary democracy - we never have a public vote for a PM. Hume, Callaghan, Major, Brown, May, Johnson, Truss and now Sunak have all become PM outside of a GE. That's 8 out of the last 12 PMs - so let's not pretend it's an unusual part of our democracy.

[tc27]

Sunaks got (in theory) the support of a majority of MPs that's the only legitimate requirement to PM.

People talking about him being illegitimate because he has won a general election don't understand how a Parliamentary system works and are perhaps unknowingly repeating the populist talking point Boris Johnson was pushing (that the GE was a personnel mandate for him).

[C69]

There is going to this constant blue on blue barrage for months.
For obvious reasons large swathes of the Tory Party hate him. His back stabbing of Boris will never be forgotten by these people.
He brought down one of the most popular Tory politicians in a generation raised taxes to a record level and is seen as a traitor, red wall Tories won't forget that.

JRM and his ilk have pledged to make his life misery and some are calling for a general election now stating he has no mandate unlike Boris.

[Insane_Homer]

Whatever we think about the Tories and Rishi, this is still a historic moment.

A new leader, in an apparent democracy, being decided by less than 0.0002% of the population?

We're a Parliamentary democracy - we never have a public vote for a PM. Hume, Callaghan, Major, Brown, May, Johnson, Truss and now Sunak have all become PM outside of a GE. That's 8 out of the last 12 PMs - so let's not pretend it's an unusual part of our democracy.

I'm confused, are you now saying a new PM decided by just over 100 people isn't historic?

[The sun god]

There is going to this constant blue on blue barrage for months.
For obvious reasons large swathes of the Tory Party hate him. His back stabbing of Boris will never be forgotten by these people.
He brought down one of the most popular Tory politicians in a generation raised taxes to a record level and is seen as a traitor, red wall Tories won't forget that.

JRM and his ilk have pledged to make his life misery and some are calling for a general election now stating he has no mandate unlike Boris.

Brave Tory's looking at how many would lose their seats in a GE next month.

[Insane_Homer]

Sunaks got (in theory) the support of a majority of MPs that's the only legitimate requirement to PM.

325 MPs backed Sunak

[Slick]

A new leader, in an apparent democracy, being decided by less than 0.0002% of the population?

We're a Parliamentary democracy - we never have a public vote for a PM. Hume, Callaghan, Major, Brown, May, Johnson, Truss and now Sunak have all become PM outside of a GE. That's 8 out of the last 12 PMs - so let's not pretend it's an unusual part of our democracy.

I'm confused, are you now saying a new PM decided by just over 100 people isn't historic?

I think he's ignoring you because these same arguments that come out every time are boring and easily dismissed. See above.

[tc27]

There is going to this constant blue on blue barrage for months.
For obvious reasons large swathes of the Tory Party hate him. His back stabbing of Boris will never be forgotten by these people.
He brought down one of the most popular Tory politicians in a generation raised taxes to a record level and is seen as a traitor, red wall Tories won't forget that.

JRM and his ilk have pledged to make his life misery and some are calling for a general election now stating he has no mandate unlike Boris.

Boris Johnson mandate to be MP for Uxbridge..thats it.

[tc27]

Sunaks got (in theory) the support of a majority of MPs that's the only legitimate requirement to PM.

325 MPs backed Sunak

If he cant command a majority he wont be PM..this will be tested very quickly.

[ASMO]

Sunaks got (in theory) the support of a majority of MPs that's the only legitimate requirement to PM.

325 MPs backed Sunak

If he cant command a majority he wont be PM..this will be tested very quickly.

Oh well i am sure all the Middle Earth/England Tory types are not going to like this "brown" person leading their party, they will stay away from the polls in droves if he is still around for the next General election.

[sturginho]

There is going to this constant blue on blue barrage for months.
For obvious reasons large swathes of the Tory Party hate him. His back stabbing of Boris will never be forgotten by these people.
He brought down one of the most popular Tory politicians in a generation raised taxes to a record level and is seen as a traitor, red wall Tories won't forget that.

JRM and his ilk have pledged to make his life misery and some are calling for a general election now stating he has no mandate unlike Boris.

JRM has changed his tune already

[sockwithaticket]

Sunaks got (in theory) the support of a majority of MPs that's the only legitimate requirement to PM.

People talking about him being illegitimate because he has won a general election don't understand how a Parliamentary system works and are perhaps unknowingly repeating the populist talking point Boris Johnson was pushing (that the GE was a personnel mandate for him).

In fairness the same points were made of Truss and Johnson (on his initial takeover) and I recall some Tory grumbling about Brown taking over Labour without a general election. While it might run contrary to how a parliamentary system works, it is a narrative the Tories have had a hand in crafting, so it can't be a surprise when it's turned on them.

Equally, while our electoral system as written may not be about the Prime Minister, it de facto is (at least in part). Who ends up in Number 10 is very much an influence on many who cast their vote.

[SaintK]

One for YMX

BBC presenter taken off air for impartiality breach after saying she was 'gleeful' about Johnson pulling out of Tory leadership contest
A statement from the broadcaster said: “BBC News is urgently reviewing last night’s edition of The Papers on the News Channel for a potential breach of impartiality. It is imperative that we maintain the highest editorial standards. We have processes in place to uphold our standards, and these processes have been activated.”

[sturginho]

good luck with that!

[Insane_Homer]

I think he's ignoring you because these same arguments that come out every time are boring and easily dismissed. See above.

I guess the historic bit is finally pissing of the die hard Brexit remnants of the support base, the racists

[C69]

There is going to this constant blue on blue barrage for months.
For obvious reasons large swathes of the Tory Party hate him. His back stabbing of Boris will never be forgotten by these people.
He brought down one of the most popular Tory politicians in a generation raised taxes to a record level and is seen as a traitor, red wall Tories won't forget that.

JRM and his ilk have pledged to make his life misery and some are calling for a general election now stating he has no mandate unlike Boris.

JRM has changed his tune already

Has he?

[Ovals]

A new leader, in an apparent democracy, being decided by less than 0.0002% of the population?

We're a Parliamentary democracy - we never have a public vote for a PM. Hume, Callaghan, Major, Brown, May, Johnson, Truss and now Sunak have all become PM outside of a GE. That's 8 out of the last 12 PMs - so let's not pretend it's an unusual part of our democracy.

I'm confused, are you now saying a new PM decided by just over 100 people isn't historic?

I can't help it if your'e too dumb to see what is actually historic about Sunak becoming PM.

[tabascoboy]

There is going to this constant blue on blue barrage for months.
For obvious reasons large swathes of the Tory Party hate him. His back stabbing of Boris will never be forgotten by these people.
He brought down one of the most popular Tory politicians in a generation raised taxes to a record level and is seen as a traitor, red wall Tories won't forget that.

JRM and his ilk have pledged to make his life misery and some are calling for a general election now stating he has no mandate unlike Boris.

JRM has changed his tune already

Has he?

Yes, but then he changes his mind every half hour

[sockwithaticket]

I must admit, I don't think it's appropriate for the PM to be someone with that much wealth and with such murky tax arrangements.

[Biffer]

Start again

In the last day, nominations for the candidates were as follows

Sunak claimed 193
Johnson claimed 102
Mordaunt claimed 90+

That's 385+ MPs putting in nominations

There are 365 Conservative MPs

One* of these lying fuckers is a lying fucker.

*at least one

[Ovals]

I must admit, I don't think it's appropriate for the PM to be someone with that much wealth and with such murky tax arrangements.

Wealth shouldn't disqualify someone from being PM - the tax arrangements are another matter altogether and I'm sure that'll be a stick to beat him with !

[C69]

Oh the Sunak haters are playing a long game now.
There will be constant leaks to Guido and the telegraph a drip drip drip.
The stories of Sunak and his wife's family wealth and dodgy tax affairs will be ramped up, but very slowly and insidiously.
It is going to be glorious.

[Ovals]

Talking bollocks

No doubt there were some porkies being told but the maths can still add up as Morduant would have drwan some of hers from Boris after he withdrew.

Edit - just noticed you took it down

[fishfoodie]

Sunaks got (in theory) the support of a majority of MPs that's the only legitimate requirement to PM.

People talking about him being illegitimate because he has won a general election don't understand how a Parliamentary system works and are perhaps unknowingly repeating the populist talking point Boris Johnson was pushing (that the GE was a personnel mandate for him).

In fairness the same points were made of Truss and Johnson (on his initial takeover) and I recall some Tory grumbling about Brown taking over Labour without a general election. While it might run contrary to how a parliamentary system works, it is a narrative the Tories have had a hand in crafting, so it can't be a surprise when it's turned on them.

Equally, while our electoral system as written may not be about the Prime Minister, it de facto is (at least in part). Who ends up in Number 10 is very much an influence on many who cast their vote.

It's all very well saying that it's the system you have, & how many times it's happened before; but I'd be sure most of these transitions had people making exactly the same complaints at the time. You just don't change the Leader of the Country like you do your socks, so if there's a reason why you have to, it's almost certainly an inflection point for the entire Country, & not just the Party.

The other thing that makes these transitions controversial, is if the new PM decides to tear up the Manifesto, that brought the party to power, & pretend that having no mandate isn't a problem; that was Truss's mistake. Now the Tories are going to double down, & implement austerity, without ever levelling with the Country, or offering the voters a chance to choose between Manifestos on how to get out of the hole 12 years of Tory Governments have stuck the Country in ?

[sockwithaticket]

I must admit, I don't think it's appropriate for the PM to be someone with that much wealth and with such murky tax arrangements.

Wealth shouldn't disqualify someone from being PM - the tax arrangements are another matter altogether and I'm sure that'll be a stick to beat him with !

It's the combo that's the issue. Massive wealth is grotesque and I think it alienates you from the concerns of the vast majority of the people you're supposed to be governing in a tangible way, but when it exists at least in part due to what seems to be dodgy tax affairs, that takes the biscuit.



I don't think it should be possible to accrue that much personal wealth, but that's a whole separate thing.