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Line6 HXFX wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:11 pm Mrs stopped being a registered nurse yesterday as it was way too much, and she was losing her mind.

She worked all through covid, on the frontline, she worked all through cutbacks, austerity, has 18 years experience but she has never experienced it this bad before.

So we gave up her pin yesterday.

Litterally couldn't cope with the short staffing, being exhausted and sense of dread going in.
Asking way too much of people.
When you are on anti anxiety medication, just to keep going in your job it isn't brilliant.
Born to be a nurse, my Mrs.
But this shit wasn't nursing.
Seems lots are doing it now too.
Here are 3 experiences of mine in the last few weeks alone
1) Friend who worked as a radiographer assistant and retired. Offered way more to come back (presumably because agency even more expensive) and her words "There is NO amount they could pay me to go back to that".
2) Nurse in my father's ward at the hospital: "I'm out of here in 2 weeks (to work in a care home). This is not what I signed up to 30 years ago."
3) Visiting closest friend's mother in same hospital. She is a retired nurse. "I was proud to be a nurse all my life. I'm ashamed of this".

The system isn't on the verge of collapse. It has collapsed and we are all amidst the avalanche. Just a question how bad the impact it when it hits the bottom.

Did you see the president of the Royal College of Emergency Medicine's comments?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/heal ... 24436.html
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I think poor Raab was the victim of bullying by Rayner at PMQs today.
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But, but, but, he's changed! #irony
Tory councillor outed as leading UK fascist
By Dorset Eye -16th November 2022145 0
A HOPE not hate investigation reveals that Cllr Andy Weatherhead, who represents Hythe West on Kent County Council, was a senior officer for the openly fascist New British Union (NBU).

We can reveal that Cllr Weatherhead:

Wrote an antisemitic blog attacking the “Jewish-controlled media”
Helped to formulate the avowedly fascist and anti-democracy policies of the NBU
Attended a rally in support of the violent Golden Dawn movement

In 2019, Weatherhead changed his name from Andrew Beadle, under which he had taken a senior role in the NBU, an attempted revival of Oswald Mosley’s British Union of Fascists. Weatherhead went on to run for UKIP four times before eventually landing in the Conservative Party.
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She's got too much time on her hands.
Nadine Dorries, the former culture secretary and one of Boris Johnson’s most loyal supporters, is due to publish a book next year with the title “The Political Assassination of Boris Johnson”, David Bond reports in the Evening Standard. Dorries said:
Events lately have been stranger than fiction. And I will be drawing on that rich source material. It’s a political whodunnit.
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tabascoboy wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:24 am
Dominic Raab has asked the prime minister to launch an investigation into two formal complaints about his behaviour.

The justice secretary and deputy PM said the complaints related to two previous stints as a cabinet minister.

He added he would "co-operate fully" with any inquiry.
Should he suspend himself while he’s been investigated?
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tabascoboy wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:35 pm But, but, but, he's changed! #irony
Tory councillor outed as leading UK fascist
By Dorset Eye -16th November 2022145 0
A HOPE not hate investigation reveals that Cllr Andy Weatherhead, who represents Hythe West on Kent County Council, was a senior officer for the openly fascist New British Union (NBU).

We can reveal that Cllr Weatherhead:

Wrote an antisemitic blog attacking the “Jewish-controlled media”
Helped to formulate the avowedly fascist and anti-democracy policies of the NBU
Attended a rally in support of the violent Golden Dawn movement

In 2019, Weatherhead changed his name from Andrew Beadle, under which he had taken a senior role in the NBU, an attempted revival of Oswald Mosley’s British Union of Fascists. Weatherhead went on to run for UKIP four times before eventually landing in the Conservative Party.
Hey now, the Tories aren't antisemitic. That's Corbyn's Labour remit.
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SaintK wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:20 pm She's got too much time on her hands.
Nadine Dorries, the former culture secretary and one of Boris Johnson’s most loyal supporters, is due to publish a book next year with the title “The Political Assassination of Boris Johnson”, David Bond reports in the Evening Standard. Dorries said:
Events lately have been stranger than fiction. And I will be drawing on that rich source material. It’s a political whodunnit.
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tabascoboy wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:29 pm
SaintK wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:20 pm She's got too much time on her hands.
Nadine Dorries, the former culture secretary and one of Boris Johnson’s most loyal supporters, is due to publish a book next year with the title “The Political Assassination of Boris Johnson”, David Bond reports in the Evening Standard. Dorries said:
Events lately have been stranger than fiction. And I will be drawing on that rich source material. It’s a political whodunnit.
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tabascoboy wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:29 pm
SaintK wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:20 pm She's got too much time on her hands.
Nadine Dorries, the former culture secretary and one of Boris Johnson’s most loyal supporters, is due to publish a book next year with the title “The Political Assassination of Boris Johnson”, David Bond reports in the Evening Standard. Dorries said:
Events lately have been stranger than fiction. And I will be drawing on that rich source material. It’s a political whodunnit.
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I clicked on that spoiler far too absent mindedly. Wasn't prepared for such grimness even, but should've been given the context.
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Irrelevant Tory shit stain JRM on Peston, pushing for the BoE to push Interest Rates higher.

Why isn't Peston asking him if higher Interest Rates would benefit him, & his companies more than higher taxes ???
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tabascoboy wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:29 pm
SaintK wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:20 pm She's got too much time on her hands.
Nadine Dorries, the former culture secretary and one of Boris Johnson’s most loyal supporters, is due to publish a book next year with the title “The Political Assassination of Boris Johnson”, David Bond reports in the Evening Standard. Dorries said:
Events lately have been stranger than fiction. And I will be drawing on that rich source material. It’s a political whodunnit.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:53 pm
tabascoboy wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:29 pm
SaintK wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:20 pm She's got too much time on her hands.
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I still dream of him tenderly eating the soft, quivering mound of my love pudding
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I clicked on that spoiler far too absent mindedly. Wasn't prepared for such grimness even, but should've been given the context.
Oh what a terrible day to have eyes...
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/1 ... nder-left/

Not sure if this is a parody or not
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sturginho wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:39 pm https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/1 ... nder-left/

Not sure if this is a parody or not

That paper's readership is a good barometer of the wingnut faction of the Tory party. There are a good few comments in favour of voting for Reform at the next GE, and Heritage too.

There could be quite a split of their vote.
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:06 pm
sturginho wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:39 pm https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/1 ... nder-left/

Not sure if this is a parody or not

That paper's readership is a good barometer of the wingnut faction of the Tory party. There are a good few comments in favour of voting for Reform at the next GE, and Heritage too.

There could be quite a split of their vote.
It fails to indicate a lot of the waste is due to reactive spending. Having to fix things after having them fall over is more expensive then not having them fall over in the first place. Also because so much of the tory vote is pensioners increasing taxes on working people is very acceptable and having the NHS in crisis is not acceptable.
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:06 pm
sturginho wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:39 pm https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/1 ... nder-left/

Not sure if this is a parody or not

That paper's readership is a good barometer of the wingnut faction of the Tory party. There are a good few comments in favour of voting for Reform at the next GE, and Heritage too.

There could be quite a split of their vote.
If Farage returns to head up Reform they'll do very well in terms of voting %.

Labour not mentioning brexit today despite it being a very large reason for the poor state of the economy. What cowards.
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I like neeps wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:29 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:06 pm
sturginho wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:39 pm https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/1 ... nder-left/

Not sure if this is a parody or not

That paper's readership is a good barometer of the wingnut faction of the Tory party. There are a good few comments in favour of voting for Reform at the next GE, and Heritage too.

There could be quite a split of their vote.
If Farage returns to head up Reform they'll do very well in terms of voting %.

Labour not mentioning brexit today despite it being a very large reason for the poor state of the economy. What cowards.
Oh - Farage leading Reform Party and potentially splitting the tory vote would in effect just negate the whole Brexit thing since Cameron decided that he needed to call their bluff and hold a referendum! In effect we would have gone through all this Brexit shit and the economic, social and cultural hits just to do it all again! Xenophobic and racism will always find a political home in England it appears?
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He'll probably do what he did last time. Push the debate towards the right, then at the last moment cry off and leg it with the grift pot.
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dpedin wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:46 pm
I like neeps wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:29 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:06 pm


That paper's readership is a good barometer of the wingnut faction of the Tory party. There are a good few comments in favour of voting for Reform at the next GE, and Heritage too.

There could be quite a split of their vote.
If Farage returns to head up Reform they'll do very well in terms of voting %.

Labour not mentioning brexit today despite it being a very large reason for the poor state of the economy. What cowards.
Oh - Farage leading Reform Party and potentially splitting the tory vote would in effect just negate the whole Brexit thing since Cameron decided that he needed to call their bluff and hold a referendum! In effect we would have gone through all this Brexit shit and the economic, social and cultural hits just to do it all again! Xenophobic and racism will always find a political home in England it appears?
That's always the problem with paying Dane Geld; the Dane always returns for more !
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fishfoodie wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:53 pm
dpedin wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:46 pm
I like neeps wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:29 pm

If Farage returns to head up Reform they'll do very well in terms of voting %.

Labour not mentioning brexit today despite it being a very large reason for the poor state of the economy. What cowards.
Oh - Farage leading Reform Party and potentially splitting the tory vote would in effect just negate the whole Brexit thing since Cameron decided that he needed to call their bluff and hold a referendum! In effect we would have gone through all this Brexit shit and the economic, social and cultural hits just to do it all again! Xenophobic and racism will always find a political home in England it appears?
That's always the problem with paying Dane Geld; the Dane always returns for more !
Had to look your reference up - my ignorance - spot on!
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So much for the NHS being safe in the Tories hands ...

https://www.health.org.uk/news-and-comm ... ast-decade
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dpedin wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:01 pm So much for the NHS being safe in the Tories hands ...

https://www.health.org.uk/news-and-comm ... ast-decade
"The UK has fewer practising physicians per person and fewer hospital beds per person than the EU14 average. The Netherlands has similar beds than the UK but combines this with more staff, using a model where more care is provided in community-based settings. The UK therefore stands as an outlier in having both fewer beds and fewer doctors than average."

This isn't going to improve either. Ever. :sad:
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No mention of this by Hunt earlier. Wonder how many other little surprises are hidden away?
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OBR forecast a 7% reduction in real terms living standards over the next two years, wiping out the previous 8 years growth. Every thing else is just window dressing. This is the real cost of Tory economics over the last 12 years and the feck up Kamikaze budget.

This drop in living standards reflects the impact of Brexit on our economy with lower trade, workforce numbers and growth. Sooner or later someone is going to have to bite the bullet, admit the Brexit price is just too high for us to pay and take us back into the SM and Customs Union. I am not sure Labour's strategy of waiting until they have won the election before calling Brexit out is going to last, two years is a long time given the shit we are in. Also the Tories have set up all the cuts to services to come into play in 2-3 years time which, assuming no significant changes, leaves the new Lab Gov with a shit sandwich to swallow. Failure to reverse some/all of Brexit will mean we are well and truly fecked economically - we have now seen the forecasts. Given the levels of deprivation we already have I will be surprised if we get through this winter, let alone 2023, without some serious form of social unrest on the streets. TBH if you can't eat or heat then what other feckin option will these folk have, what have they to lose?
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You really have to laugh.
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It's stunning just how hard they're making it for people that won't vote for them.
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Raggs wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:35 pm It's stunning just how hard they're making it for people that won't vote for them.
It is almost Russki in nature ... Putin would be proud of them ... are they aiming for A 97% result in their favour?
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dpedin wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 11:45 pm
Raggs wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:35 pm It's stunning just how hard they're making it for people that won't vote for them.
It is almost Russki in nature ... Putin would be proud of them ... are they aiming for A 97% result in their favour?
Don't be silly !

.... even the Orcs couldn't propose anything as one-sided as FPTP, & a rigged system like the Lord's & expect anyone to take them seriously !!!
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The usual suspects have been banging on about this change, & unleashing the Brexit Benefits :roll:
Jeremy Hunt has overruled the Bank of England to push through key post-Brexit insurance reforms intended to unleash an investment “big bang”.

The Chancellor confirmed that the Government will overhaul the Solvency 2 rulebook, which requires insurers to hold vast sums of cash on their balance sheets and dicates where they can invest, in a move that will allow companies to plough billions of pounds into the UK economy.

....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... g-bang-20/

<< Hit ESC key before it fully loads >>

To my jaundiced eye, when anyone in Finance talks about, "cutting red tape"; what the actually mean is, increasing risk. One of the Canaries in coalmine, that was completely missed by the Irish Central Bank, was when Quinn Insurance got ticked off by the regulator, because they were using Trumpish accounting, & valuation practices, & had too many illiquid assets on their balance sheet; exactly like the Tories are now proposing UK Insurance companies copy !!

Fast forward a few years, & Quinn enterprises took down the Irish banking system, & our Government had to call in the IMF; because the owner had the bright idea of investing in CFDs in Anglo Irish Bank.

Now maybe your regulators are better than ours, but how many of them are there, & how many balance sheets to check ?

The Tories have just signed the UK Taxpayers up to cover the cost of the inevitable company collapses.
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Makes you wonder why insurance magnate Banks supported Brexit so fervently.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:44 am Makes you wonder why insurance magnate Banks supported Brexit so fervently.
The EU is also reforming Solvency 2 and actually they are doing it faster than the UK. Banks is just a moron.
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Yet another Tory soundbite that is not reality based. British institutions love bureaucracy, standards and regulations. It's why they exist. Any 'bonfire of red tape' will ultimately result in a roughly equivalent amount of slightly different red tape.
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I like neeps wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:11 pm

You really have to laugh.
How many people don't have a driving licence or passport? And the younger you are the more likely you are to carry your driving licence around with you
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Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:16 am
I like neeps wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:11 pm

You really have to laugh.
How many people don't have a driving licence or passport? And the younger you are the more likely you are to carry your driving licence around with you
Why not just allow all age group Oyster cards as ID?

Or none.
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Electoral fraud is very low level in the UK

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/ ... fraud-data
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:18 am
Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:16 am
I like neeps wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:11 pm

You really have to laugh.
How many people don't have a driving licence or passport? And the younger you are the more likely you are to carry your driving licence around with you
Why not just allow all age group Oyster cards as ID?

Or none.
Haven't had an oyster card for years but my last one wasn't photographic. I'd certainly lean towards none being the call there
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Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:16 am
I like neeps wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:11 pm

You really have to laugh.
How many people don't have a driving licence or passport? And the younger you are the more likely you are to carry your driving licence around with you
If you use gov.uk 74% have driving licences in the UK - more whites than other ethnicities. And if you don't have a driving licence you probably live in the type of area that driving is not important e.g. London and what would you have in London? An oyster card!

9.2m people in the UK don't have a passport according to the govt but no age breakdown.

This is an obvious plot to disenfranchise Labour voters rather than a solution to any problem as tichtheid points out no problem exists. Shameful politics.
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I like neeps wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:25 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:16 am
I like neeps wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:11 pm

You really have to laugh.
How many people don't have a driving licence or passport? And the younger you are the more likely you are to carry your driving licence around with you
If you use gov.uk 74% have driving licences in the UK - more whites than other ethnicities. And if you don't have a driving licence you probably live in the type of area that driving is not important e.g. London and what would you have in London? An oyster card!

9.2m people in the UK don't have a passport according to the govt but no age breakdown.

This is an obvious plot to disenfranchise Labour voters rather than a solution to any problem as tichtheid points out no problem exists. Shameful politics.
Thanks. Anecdote does not = data but the number of oyster cards you see has collapsed since contactless became a thing on TfL. Fwiw I see no reason why you shouldn't have to show ID to vote, but provision of a voter ID card when you register on the electoral roll would seem sensible.
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Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:57 pm Fwiw I see no reason why you shouldn't have to show ID to vote, but provision of a voter ID card when you register on the electoral roll would seem sensible.
They cost money we don't have.
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Sandstorm wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:18 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:57 pm Fwiw I see no reason why you shouldn't have to show ID to vote, but provision of a voter ID card when you register on the electoral roll would seem sensible.
They cost money we don't have.
This government wasting money again. Totally unnecessary. Hypocritical considering the Tories on voting process.
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