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Insane_Homer wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:31 pm
TB63 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:37 pm Apologies if posted previously..but WTF?..
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I'd say list like this have existed for the last century at least, & have been passed from Chief Whip, to Chief Whip, to be updated & added to; but it's only because some thicko decided to put it on a computer that the rest of us are in on the "secrets".

... it's not even especially comprehensive, I mean if it was the bumblecunts entry would be a link to a whole other 50 meg Excel file .....
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Good day for Gov to quietly slip out that they are once again, 6th time, delaying the implementation of health and safety checking of EU goods at the UK border. Brexit is really the albatross around the neck of the Tory Party! Sorry it is just one of the albatrosses around their necks, I forget about sleaze and Truss and Rwanda and covid PPE dodgy contracts and NHS waiting lists and Farage.... etc.
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The latest Monbiot on criminalising protest

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... in-my-name
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dpedin wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:10 am Good day for Gov to quietly slip out that they are once again, 6th time, delaying the implementation of health and safety checking of EU goods at the UK border. Brexit is really the albatross around the neck of the Tory Party! Sorry it is just one of the albatrosses around their necks, I forget about sleaze and Truss and Rwanda and covid PPE dodgy contracts and NHS waiting lists and Farage.... etc.
Who do you want to raise it? The Labour party who is just as terrified of 'the B word'? The press who are mostly right wing Brexit backers? Nobody listens to the Lib Dems or the Greens.

Labour will tinker around the edges, but they'll do all they can not to engage with Brexit because the second they do the press will slaughter them.
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I like neeps wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:43 am
dpedin wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:10 am Good day for Gov to quietly slip out that they are once again, 6th time, delaying the implementation of health and safety checking of EU goods at the UK border. Brexit is really the albatross around the neck of the Tory Party! Sorry it is just one of the albatrosses around their necks, I forget about sleaze and Truss and Rwanda and covid PPE dodgy contracts and NHS waiting lists and Farage.... etc.
Who do you want to raise it? The Labour party who is just as terrified of 'the B word'? The press who are mostly right wing Brexit backers? Nobody listens to the Lib Dems or the Greens.

Labour will tinker around the edges, but they'll do all they can not to engage with Brexit because the second they do the press will slaughter them.
Fair point! Given all this I bet it barely registers on the main news channels. However Labour will need to have plans drawn up for dealing with this and other related Brexit issues for once they come into power otherwise the shitshow that emerges will be theirs to own!
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Meanwhile and talking of shitshows ....



As with Brexit issues this is another millstone for incoming Labour Government - this will have significant impact on their fiscal position going forward. Tories are really trying to place landmines all over the place for Labour Gov. Now Sunak is on radio talking about the huge increase how they would tackle the growing levels of sickness in the UK workforce and has yet to mention the huge NHS waiting lists and huge cuts in public health etc. This sounds like another big contract for their mates at Serco etc to run the 'sick note culture'. They are truly despicable.
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Just like the benefits system. It will be lovely fat contracts for the chums with zero accountability, suicides and lives wrecked when people are mangled through the bureaucracy which starts with the premise "You are a fucking liar, prove that you are ill/cannot work, you idle workshy scum" and is administered by poorly trained, unmotivated people (or motivated by the wrong targets).

And Rachel Reeves will gleefully continue it under Labour, she is cut from the same cloth.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:06 am Just like the benefits system. It will be lovely fat contracts for the chums with zero accountability, suicides and lives wrecked when people are mangled through the bureaucracy which starts with the premise "You are a fucking liar, prove that you are ill/cannot work, you idle workshy scum" and is administered by poorly trained, unmotivated people (or motivated by the wrong targets).

And Rachel Reeves will gleefully continue it under Labour, she is cut from the same cloth.
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Sandstorm wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:29 am
Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:06 am Just like the benefits system. It will be lovely fat contracts for the chums with zero accountability, suicides and lives wrecked when people are mangled through the bureaucracy which starts with the premise "You are a fucking liar, prove that you are ill/cannot work, you idle workshy scum" and is administered by poorly trained, unmotivated people (or motivated by the wrong targets).

And Rachel Reeves will gleefully continue it under Labour, she is cut from the same cloth.
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Sadly, I'm serious on this one.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:06 am Just like the benefits system. It will be lovely fat contracts for the chums with zero accountability, suicides and lives wrecked when people are mangled through the bureaucracy which starts with the premise "You are a fucking liar, prove that you are ill/cannot work, you idle workshy scum" and is administered by poorly trained, unmotivated people (or motivated by the wrong targets).

And Rachel Reeves will gleefully continue it under Labour, she is cut from the same cloth.
They have about 8 months left of government, it won't ever be realized. It's just "vice signalling".

GPs shouldn't be responsible for mental health signing off work I don't think. I think the Tories have a point if you had trained mental health professionals and job coaches you'd have a better system. But as said, they'll sell the contract to a donor and it'll become the computer says no job centre system we have.
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While there isn't anything inherently wrong with reviewing individual cases in order to provide genuine help back to work I have the feeling that the intent is more the usual massively unsubtle attempt to find blame any others than themselves for the nation's problems. If it is ever put into effect it will be performed with all the sensitivity of an unleashed starving Rottweiler.

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I am quite a big ‘back to the office’ person, but there is no way it can be sold as helping you lose weight. From my experience, quite the opposite!
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I like neeps wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:01 am
"FLAB?!?"

JFC the photo on the left is of a thin man who is in no need of losing weight.
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He might have a bit of the ol' skinny-fat going on. Mostly skinny all over but got some extra accruing around the belly and hips for a little muffin top.


A commute reducing free time that could be used for exercise and having to adjust to portable lunches or buying on the go rather than using one's own kitchen doesn't strike me as conducive to getting more in shape.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:56 am
I like neeps wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:01 am
"FLAB?!?"

JFC the photo on the left is of a thin man who is in no need of losing weight.
Ive lost a couple of stone and put on a bit of muscle definition since I became economically inactive - I retired at 63. Having more time to play golf and go to the gym instead of sitting on my lardy arse in the office and eating crap food on the go has been a great help to my fitness and well being. I would recommend it. Happy to be interviewed by the press ... apart from the Mail, or the Express, or GBNews, or the Telegraph.

PS Pictures will need to be paid for unless they throw in a Brazilian rent boy for free or a dodgy PPE contract!
PPS Any journalist can contact me via my Grinder account.
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From the Torygraph itself, which may indicate a Pre-Election wheeze.
Thames Water plans £2bn shareholder payouts despite threat of collapse

Troubled supplier plans to hand dividend to parent company to cover debt costs

Thames Water is planning to pay out £2bn in dividends over the next decade despite growing fears over the company’s collapse, The Telegraph can reveal.

In a revised business plan submitted to regulator Ofwat, bosses of the troubled supplier said they intended to keep rewarding shareholders even as financial pressures push it closer to bankruptcy.

According to figures buried in a spreadsheet containing more than 100 tables, Thames Water plans to pay around £2bn in dividends between now and 2035 - consisting of payouts of up to £290m a year.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... se-threat/

The horse is long since bolted, but maybe the Head Boy wants to demonstrates how tough he is against this company pumping excrement into rivers ....... just 14 years too late !
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Tories seem totally proud of themselves over pushing on with this Rwanda shitshow, but has it even been confirmed how any deportees will be flown? Last I heard neither civilian airlines nor the RAF wanted anything to do with it.
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So it appears the Government is manipulating the numbers to male their latest claim re defence spending! Who would have thought eh?

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Yep the usual bollocks and lies!
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To be fair to him, Dowden is in the category of "could be outwitted by badgers" so he'll naturally struggle.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:27 pm To be fair to him, Dowden is in the category of "could be outwitted by badgers" so he'll naturally struggle.
I listened to it. He's as limp and as useful as wet tissue
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A wet tissue has served a purpose, not sure you could say the same about him
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tabascoboy wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:57 am
Not sure I'd go that far, they were both shite
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A lot is made (truthfully) of Harry Cole et al being client journalists of the Tories. As we’re on the cusp of a change of government it is worth remembering that their Labour counterparts exist too. Goodall being one of them
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Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:17 pm A lot is made (truthfully) of Harry Cole et al being client journalists of the Tories. As we’re on the cusp of a change of government it is worth remembering that their Labour counterparts exist too. Goodall being one of them
Goodall, James O' Brien, etc.

The interesting point will be how they behave when Labour are in power and don't really achieve anything. How they spin that.

Especially O'Brien. Constantly furious, without ever advancing any solutions.
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Big Ben stops and there are blood soaked horses running through the streets of London. The end times approach.
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I like neeps wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:45 pm
Especially O'Brien. Constantly furious, without ever advancing any solutions.
You could tell him he does then have something in common with Brexit supporters
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I like neeps wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:45 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:17 pm A lot is made (truthfully) of Harry Cole et al being client journalists of the Tories. As we’re on the cusp of a change of government it is worth remembering that their Labour counterparts exist too. Goodall being one of them
Goodall, James O' Brien, etc.

The interesting point will be how they behave when Labour are in power and don't really achieve anything. How they spin that.

Especially O'Brien. Constantly furious, without ever advancing any solutions.
Pretty much.

I imagine it will be ‘too big a mess left behind’ to explain away the issues (which of course is par for the course given the Tories still trot out the ‘there is no money’ letter, it will just be amusing because these people think they’re a cut above this)
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Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:42 pm
I like neeps wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:45 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:17 pm A lot is made (truthfully) of Harry Cole et al being client journalists of the Tories. As we’re on the cusp of a change of government it is worth remembering that their Labour counterparts exist too. Goodall being one of them
Goodall, James O' Brien, etc.

The interesting point will be how they behave when Labour are in power and don't really achieve anything. How they spin that.

Especially O'Brien. Constantly furious, without ever advancing any solutions.
Pretty much.

I imagine it will be ‘too big a mess left behind’ to explain away the issues (which of course is par for the course given the Tories still trot out the ‘there is no money’ letter, it will just be amusing because these people think they’re a cut above this)
Let's be fair, it very much is a monumental mess, and the tories have back loaded finances so it'll get worse in the next few years.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:59 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:42 pm
I like neeps wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:45 pm

Goodall, James O' Brien, etc.

The interesting point will be how they behave when Labour are in power and don't really achieve anything. How they spin that.

Especially O'Brien. Constantly furious, without ever advancing any solutions.
Pretty much.

I imagine it will be ‘too big a mess left behind’ to explain away the issues (which of course is par for the course given the Tories still trot out the ‘there is no money’ letter, it will just be amusing because these people think they’re a cut above this)
Let's be fair, it very much is a monumental mess, and the tories have back loaded finances so it'll get worse in the next few years.
No argument with that. Will be amusing to watch Goodall/O’Brien etc without their punching bag in office though
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tabascoboy wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:57 am
Well it was entertainment, I guess

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Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:04 pm
Biffer wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:59 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:42 pm

Pretty much.

I imagine it will be ‘too big a mess left behind’ to explain away the issues (which of course is par for the course given the Tories still trot out the ‘there is no money’ letter, it will just be amusing because these people think they’re a cut above this)
Let's be fair, it very much is a monumental mess, and the tories have back loaded finances so it'll get worse in the next few years.
No argument with that. Will be amusing to watch Goodall/O’Brien etc without their punching bag in office though


I sincerely hope they do continue to hold the government to account and if the incoming Labour cabinet try to implement a lunatic policy like Brexit then the likes of O'Brien don't let it go, if Labour continually enrich friends at the taxpayer's expense then I expect and hope they make as much noise as possible. If there is corruption then I hope it will be exposed, if there is playing to the extreme of their base then I hope that is called out - but what would be the "Lefty" equivalent of the Rwanda bill and fighting the poor instead of poverty look like? Re-nationalising the railways and water? Re-opening post office branches, huge increase in funding for the NHS, re-introducing checks and balances on the markets and separation of the casino from domestic banking?
Or are we talking little red books and five year plans?
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I like neeps wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:45 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:17 pm A lot is made (truthfully) of Harry Cole et al being client journalists of the Tories. As we’re on the cusp of a change of government it is worth remembering that their Labour counterparts exist too. Goodall being one of them
Goodall, James O' Brien, etc.

The interesting point will be how they behave when Labour are in power and don't really achieve anything. How they spin that.

Especially O'Brien. Constantly furious, without ever advancing any solutions.
A lot of the complaints O'brien has boils down to outright corruption and absence of any competence which dont really require complex solutions. The difficult one for O'brien and Labour is brexit and I expect he will still be anti brexit. I do think there are some simple things for business that Labour can do to ease trade without upsetting anyone bar the full on brexit loonies as the Tories really have tied themselves up in knots by trying to appease.
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Tichtheid wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:40 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:04 pm
Biffer wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:59 pm

Let's be fair, it very much is a monumental mess, and the tories have back loaded finances so it'll get worse in the next few years.
No argument with that. Will be amusing to watch Goodall/O’Brien etc without their punching bag in office though


I sincerely hope they do continue to hold the government to account and if the incoming Labour cabinet try to implement a lunatic policy like Brexit then the likes of O'Brien don't let it go, if Labour continually enrich friends at the taxpayer's expense then I expect and hope they make as much noise as possible. If there is corruption then I hope it will be exposed, if there is playing to the extreme of their base then I hope that is called out - but what would be the "Lefty" equivalent of the Rwanda bill and fighting the poor instead of poverty look like? Re-nationalising the railways and water? Re-opening post office branches, huge increase in funding for the NHS, re-introducing checks and balances on the markets and separation of the casino from domestic banking?
Or are we talking little red books and five year plans?
Adding VAT to private school fees

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