The Military Pictures Thread

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petej wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:45 am
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laurent wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:54 pm

They usually starved them to death in concentration camps If I am not mistaken. No need to ship them oversea to do that.
I'm sure some wealthy ship-owners in England in 1900 saw a good opportunity to make even more money offering to transport these children back to Rwand....I mean Bermuda.
Of course. Though i wouldn't be surprised if the boer child in bermuda was far healthier and better fed than the working class child in london. The living conditions for the urban poor were horrific. The boer war led to significant changes as the health of recruits to fight was so poor. This was often missed when history was taught at school and in historical programs and when such things (and slavery) are bought up you can see the push back from our elites many of whoms position and wealth comes from such exploitation.

Yeah, if I remember my school history correctly it was those do-goody Quakers and their lobbying for better living conditions in the cities who were at the forefront of those changes. I think they were also vociferously opposed to the war, too.
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inactionman wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:58 pm Anyway, I'm a fan of the photographer Don McCullin, and some of his most impressive shots have been of soldiers in Vietnam - he really captured the shock, bewilderment and trauma. They're not always easy viewing but they are compelling.

This is a bit dated but its an interesting read - an article in the Times where the reporter has tracked down some of the soldiers McCullin photographed.

https://archive.ph/dHKJj

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Cracking read. Ta :thumbup:
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My links from fb tend to disappear, so hope this one from Reddit stays
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Fb colourization just in case...
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Phyllis "Pippa" Latour Doyle Heroine of the SOE
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Born in South Africa on 8 April 1921, Phyllis "Pippa" Latour was an orphan by the age of 3 years old. Adopted by her French father's cousin, Pippa relocated to England in 1939 to finish her education. In November of 1941 she joined the Women’s Auxiliary Air Force (WAAF) as a flight mechanic for airframes.

"They took a group of about 20 of us away for training. It was unusual training – not what I expected, and very hard. It wasn't until after my first round of training that they told me they wanted me to become a member of the SOE. They said I could have three days to think about it. I told them I didn't need three days to make a decision - I'd take the job now." - Phyllis "Pippa" Latour Doyle - Stuff New Zealand November 25, 2014 interview
Latour officially joined the Special Operations Executive on 01 November 1943 and was commissioned as an Honorary Section Officer.

According to the New Zealand Army News: "She parachuted into Orne, Normandy on 01 May 1944 to operate as part of the Scientist circuit, using the codename Genevieve. Pippa worked as a wireless operator with Resistance member Claude de Baissac, or “Denis,” who was also a southern-African, and of Mauritian origin, and his sister Lisé de Baissac (the courier). Denis had to plug gaps in the SOE’s northern France operations caused by double agents and lay the groundwork for an anticipated Allied landing. For Pippa’s cover story, De Baissac had forged papers showing she had left Paris to study painting. Within days of dropping into France, Latour made contact with London, using a safe house belonging to a doctor, before shifting to de Baissac’s farmhouse headquarters."

"Word got back to the network that an informer was among the resistance group who collected Pippa and that the Germans had discovered her parachute. Forced to move, Pippa, who by now was working closely with de Baissac’s sister Lise, known as “Odile,” fled on a bicycle and set up in a barn. Using radio sets hidden round the countryside, Latour sent a stream of coded reports to London." - Squadron Leader Beryl E. Escott, Mission Improbable: A salute to the RAF women of SOE in wartime France.

"Small of stature, Latour, who was fluent in French, posed as a teenage girl whose family had moved to the region to escape the Allied bombing. She rode bicycles around the area, selling soap and chatting with German soldiers. When she obtained any military intelligence, she encoded it for transmitting using one-time codes that were hidden on a piece of silk that she used to tie up her hair. At one point, she was brought in for questioning, but the German authorities did not think to examine her hair tie, and she was released." (Beryl E. Escott et. al)

Following the war, Phyllis married Patrick Doyle, an Australian engineer. The couple relocated to Kenya, then Fiji, Australia and eventually settling in Auckland New Zealand. Pippa and Patrick had four children.

A highly decorated veteran of World War II, Phyllis Latour Doyle was honored with the Member of the Order of the British Empire, Croix de Guerre 1939–1945, France and Germany Star, Defense Medal and on 25 November 2014 she was awarded the Legion of Honor, France’s highest military honr.
Pippa passed away on 07 October 2023 at the age of 102 years old.
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:34 am
petej wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:45 am
Sandstorm wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:47 am

I'm sure some wealthy ship-owners in England in 1900 saw a good opportunity to make even more money offering to transport these children back to Rwand....I mean Bermuda.
Of course. Though i wouldn't be surprised if the boer child in bermuda was far healthier and better fed than the working class child in london. The living conditions for the urban poor were horrific. The boer war led to significant changes as the health of recruits to fight was so poor. This was often missed when history was taught at school and in historical programs and when such things (and slavery) are bought up you can see the push back from our elites many of whoms position and wealth comes from such exploitation.

Yeah, if I remember my school history correctly it was those do-goody Quakers and their lobbying for better living conditions in the cities who were at the forefront of those changes. I think they were also vociferously opposed to the war, too.
Perhaps a difference in Scottish and English curriculums?
One of the interesting things with the British Empire is that records were kept and have frequently been opened rather than destroyed which allows for plenty of study. Having an urban and social historian as a parent meant I had to tolerate a lot of lectures on that era. The behaviour of the Tories surrounding things like public ownership and the private ownership of water and sewage should not really come as a surprise or shock. The degrading of plebs as being morally deficient, lazy and that being the sole cause of their struggles is so familiar and essentially the same narrative as it was 150 years ago.
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Anthony Rapp and Michael Cera to play them in the movie.

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Arival of the Rafales in Croatia

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The paint job on this Typhoon looks gleaming

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No Facebook is that the Typhoon with WWII scheme ?
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in the meantime the only way to get an F35 aiborne :twisted:

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The very one.
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Nice reference.

The Grand cirque Plane of my Youth (Pierre Clostermann Book).
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