
Always interesting to see.
Thing that leapt out to me is the difference in position between fullbacks in the Prem and the other two leagues. Pro14 seems to place a lot of value in wingers for some reason.
The thing that stands out for me is how lowly the Backrow are paid. They win games!!sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:21 pm
Always interesting to see.
Thing that leapt out to me is the difference in position between fullbacks in the Prem and the other two leagues. Pro14 seems to place a lot of value in wingers for some reason.
From a Prem perspective I think it's partly a supply and demand thing, but also age profile. It feels like there's always a decent supply of quality young back rowers around and at the moment there's a particularly strong crop of very young men in those positions.Openside wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:49 pm The thing that stands out for me is how lowly the Backrow are paid. They win games!!
Also Hookers ? if they can't throw in that are a disaster and are essentially another back row.
Fair point.sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 4:03 pmFrom a Prem perspective I think it's partly a supply and demand thing, but also age profile. It feels like there's always a decent supply of quality young back rowers around and at the moment there's a particularly strong crop of very young men in those positions.Openside wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:49 pm The thing that stands out for me is how lowly the Backrow are paid. They win games!!
Also Hookers ? if they can't throw in that are a disaster and are essentially another back row.
Think it also reflects the relative rarity of body type compared to others and relative proportion internationals plus captains and seniority in those positions. Sometimes all 3 in one player.Niegs wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:54 pm I wouldn't have guessed locks, either, but makes sense given how many tries come from kick to the corner / catch and drives these days...![]()
Supply and demand. Plenty of good SH's means lower wages across the board. Fuck all decent 10s means the price is jacked up.fishfoodie wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:59 pm I'm rather surprised that SH's in the Top14 are so badly paid compared to OH's ?
Considering how the key position in the French game is the SH, I'd expect their positions to be reversed in the pay scales compared with the other leagues
But French teams don't give a shite about how decent their OHs are !Hellraiser wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:10 amSupply and demand. Plenty of good SH's means lower wages across the board. Fuck all decent 10s means the price is jacked up.fishfoodie wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:59 pm I'm rather surprised that SH's in the Top14 are so badly paid compared to OH's ?
Considering how the key position in the French game is the SH, I'd expect their positions to be reversed in the pay scales compared with the other leagues
I wouldn't necessarily say that's true considering the stupid money they are willing to throw at the likes of Carter, Cruden and Sexton.fishfoodie wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:20 amBut French teams don't give a shite about how decent their OHs are !Hellraiser wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:10 amSupply and demand. Plenty of good SH's means lower wages across the board. Fuck all decent 10s means the price is jacked up.fishfoodie wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:59 pm I'm rather surprised that SH's in the Top14 are so badly paid compared to OH's ?
Considering how the key position in the French game is the SH, I'd expect their positions to be reversed in the pay scales compared with the other leagues
They're like kickers in the NFL; they have one job, & if they don't do it, there's a dozen more waiting in the wings to do it.
In the Top14 the OHs aren't the play makers, the SH are, that's the bottom line.
Hellraiser wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:23 amI wouldn't necessarily say that's true considering the stupid money they are willing to throw at the likes of Carter, Cruden and Sexton.fishfoodie wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:20 amBut French teams don't give a shite about how decent their OHs are !Hellraiser wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:10 am
Supply and demand. Plenty of good SH's means lower wages across the board. Fuck all decent 10s means the price is jacked up.
They're like kickers in the NFL; they have one job, & if they don't do it, there's a dozen more waiting in the wings to do it.
In the Top14 the OHs aren't the play makers, the SH are, that's the bottom line.