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OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:03 am
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Also can we stop referring to individuals as POC. Its not cool. Kumbirai may be kak at the mo and may never develop. But its a bit dehumanizing to constantly drone on about. We all know the reality on the ground in this country, time to accept and move on. Comment not aimed at you Chilli.
I agree and made the same point yesterday.
As long as our sport have quota rulings , I,ll call them PoCs. If you don't like it , put me on ignore with pleasure.

President of Colour is worse then Player of Colour.
All of them are players that participate in a sport. You're treading a fine line, but that's your choice.
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:lol: you can call me a poster of colour then.
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assfly wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:14 am
Chilli wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:57 am Went backwards in the CC Final
Was bullied by Ali Vermaak in the 1/4 final
Didn't play again Dylan Smith of the Lions

Hardly the form 3
I disagree. Yes he had a couple of tough outings early in the season but he steadily improved. And his work outside of the scrum has always been good like tackles, offloads and jackles.

But you've back this horse so I'm not going to change your mind. Continue bashing him by all means. I'm sure he's devastated by your critique.
Some guys recon a prop only needs to be an immovable piece of fat lard in the scrums and nothing ells. They forget that there's more to rugby than just scrums. That's why they rate fat Frans so highly.
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Oom we've had quotas in rugby since it was first played here 150 years ago. The quota for a long period of time was zero percent players of colour. Quotas are a white man's invention.
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average joe wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:18 am
assfly wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:14 am
Chilli wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:57 am Went backwards in the CC Final
Was bullied by Ali Vermaak in the 1/4 final
Didn't play again Dylan Smith of the Lions

Hardly the form 3
I disagree. Yes he had a couple of tough outings early in the season but he steadily improved. And his work outside of the scrum has always been good like tackles, offloads and jackles.

But you've back this horse so I'm not going to change your mind. Continue bashing him by all means. I'm sure he's devastated by your critique.
Some guys recon a prop only needs to be an immovable piece of fat lard in the scrums and nothing ells. They forget that there's more to rugby than just scrums. That's why they rate fat Frans so highly.
Nah, we rate Malherbe highly because he is by far and away the best tighthead in SA, he was a major part of us winning the RWC. Pretty sure Rassie knows more about tightheads than you.
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handyman wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:23 am Nah, we rate Malherbe highly because he is by far and away the best tighthead in SA, he was a major part of us winning the RWC. Pretty sure Rassie knows more about tightheads than you.
What's he up to now, is he playing in this tournament or are they resting him? Really need him in top form for the Lions.
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handyman wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:23 am
average joe wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:18 am
assfly wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:14 am

I disagree. Yes he had a couple of tough outings early in the season but he steadily improved. And his work outside of the scrum has always been good like tackles, offloads and jackles.

But you've back this horse so I'm not going to change your mind. Continue bashing him by all means. I'm sure he's devastated by your critique.
Some guys recon a prop only needs to be an immovable piece of fat lard in the scrums and nothing ells. They forget that there's more to rugby than just scrums. That's why they rate fat Frans so highly.
Nah, we rate Malherbe highly because he is by far and away the best tighthead in SA, he was a major part of us winning the RWC. Pretty sure Rassie knows more about tightheads than you.
He's a great scrummaging prop. He'd be a liability if 8 subs weren't allowed. He also was pretty average as a younger player.
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assfly wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:28 am
What's he up to now, is he playing in this tournament or are they resting him? Really need him in top form for the Lions.
I hope they're not leaving him alone to stuff his face again. I hope they can get him back to his Japan form. I rated fit Frans not so much fat Frans.
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average joe wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:32 am I hope they're not leaving him alone to stuff his face again. I hope they can get him back to his Japan form. I rated fit Frans not so much fat Frans.
Ja. I agree with Handyman that he came up with the goods when he needed to in 2019, but he could seriously do with losing a bit of timber.
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handyman wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:14 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:03 am
handyman wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:13 am

I agree and made the same point yesterday.
As long as our sport have quota rulings , I,ll call them PoCs. If you don't like it , put me on ignore with pleasure.

President of Colour is worse then Player of Colour.
All of them are players that participate in a sport. You're treading a fine line, but that's your choice.
Have to agree with this

Oom is running his mouth on here as he knows full well there are no real repercussions

It just comes across as archaic and frankly pathetic
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I just read it as Paul O'Connell every time and it makes me chuckle.
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average joe wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:32 am
assfly wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:28 am
What's he up to now, is he playing in this tournament or are they resting him? Really need him in top form for the Lions.
I hope they're not leaving him alone to stuff his face again. I hope they can get him back to his Japan form. I rated fit Frans not so much fat Frans.
:lol: :lol: :lol: kind of guy I can imagine sitting in his Hilux downing several pies and sausage rolls outside Engen washed down by a 2 litre fanta.
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assfly wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:28 am
handyman wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:23 am Nah, we rate Malherbe highly because he is by far and away the best tighthead in SA, he was a major part of us winning the RWC. Pretty sure Rassie knows more about tightheads than you.
What's he up to now, is he playing in this tournament or are they resting him? Really need him in top form for the Lions.
I guess he's resting. From a Bok pov, I think it's difficult as we can't overplay him, but we need him to be as fit as possible.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:30 am
handyman wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:23 am
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Some guys recon a prop only needs to be an immovable piece of fat lard in the scrums and nothing ells. They forget that there's more to rugby than just scrums. That's why they rate fat Frans so highly.
Nah, we rate Malherbe highly because he is by far and away the best tighthead in SA, he was a major part of us winning the RWC. Pretty sure Rassie knows more about tightheads than you.
He's a great scrummaging prop. He'd be a liability if 8 subs weren't allowed. He also was pretty average as a younger player.
Not his fault if the laws of the game suits him. A player rising out of the ashes to be a RWC hero, now that's the stuff of dreams.
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Big Nipper wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:39 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:03 am

As long as our sport have quota rulings , I,ll call them PoCs. If you don't like it , put me on ignore with pleasure.

President of Colour is worse then Player of Colour.
Have to agree with this

Oom is running his mouth on here as he knows full well there are no real repercussions

It just comes across as archaic and frankly pathetic
I believe we've moved past the point were we need to call players quota's as we have really good players of colour who deserve to be there now. But I don't see how in our country were targets are set and pointing out that a player counts towards making those targets is a bad thing. Stating that this player or that player is a player of colour is just a way of saying that he contributes to reaching the targets and has no bearing on his quality as a player. To me it's just stating the fact's.
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average joe wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:18 am
assfly wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:14 am
Chilli wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:57 am Went backwards in the CC Final
Was bullied by Ali Vermaak in the 1/4 final
Didn't play again Dylan Smith of the Lions

Hardly the form 3
I disagree. Yes he had a couple of tough outings early in the season but he steadily improved. And his work outside of the scrum has always been good like tackles, offloads and jackles.

But you've back this horse so I'm not going to change your mind. Continue bashing him by all means. I'm sure he's devastated by your critique.
Some guys recon a prop only needs to be an immovable piece of fat lard in the scrums and nothing ells. They forget that there's more to rugby than just scrums. That's why they rate fat Frans so highly.
A props first job is to scrum, then do all the other stuff. Just think back a few years when the Ozzies were picking Matt Dunning at 3. He had great skills but........................had his head shoved up his arse at every scrum.

Would you pick a hooker who can't throw?
Would you pick a 9 who can't pass?
Would you pick a 15 who can't catch?


Du Toit, like Poesklap Oosthuizen, is a very good loosehead but barely an adequate tighthead.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:42 am
average joe wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:32 am
assfly wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:28 am
What's he up to now, is he playing in this tournament or are they resting him? Really need him in top form for the Lions.
I hope they're not leaving him alone to stuff his face again. I hope they can get him back to his Japan form. I rated fit Frans not so much fat Frans.
:lol: :lol: :lol: kind of guy I can imagine sitting in his Hilux downing several pies and sausage rolls outside Engen washed down by a 2 diet litre fanta.
Fixed.
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Chilli wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:20 am
FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:42 am
average joe wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:32 am

I hope they're not leaving him alone to stuff his face again. I hope they can get him back to his Japan form. I rated fit Frans not so much fat Frans.
:lol: :lol: :lol: kind of guy I can imagine sitting in his Hilux downing several pies and sausage rolls outside Engen washed down by a 2 diet litre fanta.
Fixed.
lol
...directly after the conditioning coach had put him through a personalized HIT
weight loss session.
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Chilli wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:16 am
average joe wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:18 am
assfly wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:14 am

I disagree. Yes he had a couple of tough outings early in the season but he steadily improved. And his work outside of the scrum has always been good like tackles, offloads and jackles.

But you've back this horse so I'm not going to change your mind. Continue bashing him by all means. I'm sure he's devastated by your critique.
Some guys recon a prop only needs to be an immovable piece of fat lard in the scrums and nothing ells. They forget that there's more to rugby than just scrums. That's why they rate fat Frans so highly.
A props first job is to scrum, then do all the other stuff. Just think back a few years when the Ozzies were picking Matt Dunning at 3. He had great skills but........................had his head shoved up his arse at every scrum.

Would you pick a hooker who can't throw?
Would you pick a 9 who can't pass?
Would you pick a 15 who can't catch?


Du Toit, like Poesklap Oosthuizen, is a very good loosehead but barely an adequate tighthead.
What this? Are we back in 1960? You don't pick a player only on how good he does his core duty anymore. He's a prop, he's supposed to be able to scrum but he also needs to be good at other things and at least fairly competent at the rest. Or ells we could just stick any 300 kilo fat fok of the street in there.
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average joe wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:01 am
Chilli wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:16 am
average joe wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:18 am
Some guys recon a prop only needs to be an immovable piece of fat lard in the scrums and nothing ells. They forget that there's more to rugby than just scrums. That's why they rate fat Frans so highly.
A props first job is to scrum, then do all the other stuff. Just think back a few years when the Ozzies were picking Matt Dunning at 3. He had great skills but........................had his head shoved up his arse at every scrum.

Would you pick a hooker who can't throw?
Would you pick a 9 who can't pass?
Would you pick a 15 who can't catch?


Du Toit, like Poesklap Oosthuizen, is a very good loosehead but barely an adequate tighthead.
What this? Are we back in 1960? You don't pick a player only on how good he does his core duty anymore. He's a prop, he's supposed to be able to scrum but he also needs to be good at other things and at least fairly competent at the rest. Or ells we could just stick any 300 kilo fat fok of the street in there.
You probably played wing or full back.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:30 am He's a great scrummaging prop. He'd be a liability if 8 subs weren't allowed. He also was pretty average as a younger player.
Frans have always been a strong scrummager. I remember when he and Kitshoff started for the Stormers , fresh out of school, a lot of posters from the other board critize the Stormers for allowing such young players playing at S15 level. He and Kitshoff did well on that level since they started. Now they are aged red wine and world class.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:14 am :lol: you can call me a poster of colour then.
:lol: we need more of you.

Pass the test on merit.

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OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:28 am
FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:14 am :lol: you can call me a poster of colour then.
:lol: we need more of you.

Pass the test on merit.

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FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:17 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:28 am
FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:14 am :lol: you can call me a poster of colour then.
:lol: we need more of you.

Pass the test on merit.

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Chilli wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:19 am
average joe wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:01 am
Chilli wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:16 am

A props first job is to scrum, then do all the other stuff. Just think back a few years when the Ozzies were picking Matt Dunning at 3. He had great skills but........................had his head shoved up his arse at every scrum.

Would you pick a hooker who can't throw?
Would you pick a 9 who can't pass?
Would you pick a 15 who can't catch?


Du Toit, like Poesklap Oosthuizen, is a very good loosehead but barely an adequate tighthead.
What this? Are we back in 1960? You don't pick a player only on how good he does his core duty anymore. He's a prop, he's supposed to be able to scrum but he also needs to be good at other things and at least fairly competent at the rest. Or ells we could just stick any 300 kilo fat fok of the street in there.
You probably played wing or full back.
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This could be a nice topic, what position did the saffer posters play? Well, all except sards who was on the first aid team.
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handyman wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:11 pm This could be a nice topic, what position did the saffer posters play? Well, all except sards who was on the first aid team.
I played 11 in Junior School, was a feisty 9 in high school

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Big Nipper wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:38 pm
I played 11 in Junior School, was a feisty 9 in high school

:lol:
I bet Chilli was a fat prop, one of those who knocked the ball ever time he got it cause he knew that's the only way he can contribute.
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average joe wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:47 pm
Big Nipper wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:38 pm
I played 11 in Junior School, was a feisty 9 in high school

:lol:
I bet Chilli was a fat prop, one of those who knocked the ball ever time he got it cause he knew that's the only way he can contribute.
To be fair I sincerely enjoyed our season before covid intervened, had a settled pack for once and dominated the league and cup in scrums where we could struggle for parity. Was a joy seeing a knock-on when there wasn't a break on. Not a slur if it works :thumbup:
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Big Nipper wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:38 pm
handyman wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:11 pm This could be a nice topic, what position did the saffer posters play? Well, all except sards who was on the first aid team.
I played 11 in Junior School, was a feisty 9 in high school

:lol:
Good man, I was a 9 and 10 as well.
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In my matric year, I played prop for my school and wing for my club.

Not sure what that says about me, my school or my club.
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handyman wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:11 pm This could be a nice topic, what position did the saffer posters play? Well, all except sards who was on the first aid team.
I was a bit of a Frans Malherbe at school :oops:
Played all across the front row. Slimmed down to hooker size and played at 2 into my 40s. My dream position was tearaway flanker but have very few fast twitch fibres in my body.
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average joe wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:47 pm
Big Nipper wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:38 pm
I played 11 in Junior School, was a feisty 9 in high school

:lol:
I bet Chilli was a fat prop, one of those who knocked the ball ever time he got it cause he knew that's the only way he can contribute.
Played Hooker. And later prop.
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Nippy 9 with quick service.
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Chilli wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:16 am
average joe wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:18 am
assfly wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:14 am

I disagree. Yes he had a couple of tough outings early in the season but he steadily improved. And his work outside of the scrum has always been good like tackles, offloads and jackles.

But you've back this horse so I'm not going to change your mind. Continue bashing him by all means. I'm sure he's devastated by your critique.
Some guys recon a prop only needs to be an immovable piece of fat lard in the scrums and nothing ells. They forget that there's more to rugby than just scrums. That's why they rate fat Frans so highly.
A props first job is to scrum, then do all the other stuff. Just think back a few years when the Ozzies were picking Matt Dunning at 3. He had great skills but........................had his head shoved up his arse at every scrum.

Would you pick a hooker who can't throw?
Would you pick a 9 who can't pass?
Would you pick a 15 who can't catch?
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Sandstorm wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:13 pm
Chilli wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:16 am
average joe wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:18 am
Some guys recon a prop only needs to be an immovable piece of fat lard in the scrums and nothing ells. They forget that there's more to rugby than just scrums. That's why they rate fat Frans so highly.
A props first job is to scrum, then do all the other stuff. Just think back a few years when the Ozzies were picking Matt Dunning at 3. He had great skills but........................had his head shoved up his arse at every scrum.

Would you pick a hooker who can't throw?
Would you pick a 9 who can't pass?
Would you pick a 15 who can't catch?
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He would have sorted out the shit at WP.
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Haven't bothered but any decent results in mid week matches
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Sards wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:46 am Haven't bothered but any decent results in mid week matches
This is only warm up games, so your loss is not so bad.
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