2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup

[OomStruisbaai]

Not much hope for the Saffer teams today.

[Tichtheid]

That view through the open top of the stadium towards Table Mountain is quite something

[topofthemoon]

That's twice Racing have been lucky to keep 15 players on the park, that clearout on Darge is something that has to be taken out of the game

The game is going the wrong way with this stuff with refs to blame IMHO.
- we had the Mack Hansen outburst which seemed bang on to me. And he gets a ban longer that the dangerous player.
- Alldritt was furious with ref Luc Ramos (a serial offender) and pointedly told him "Don't talk to us about player safety any more" after Tuilagi (another with a history of thuggery) shoulder charged the LaR man's head with no sanction.
- And talking of serial offenders, this clearout by Latu (the man is an uber c**t)

also went largely unpunished by Ref Ramos which led to Dupont taking to social media along with the likes of Dourthe on Canal Plus.

We have 2 problems
1) Refs who can't, won't or deliberately choose not to do their job.
2) Players who are not changing despite all the directives and some who seemingly are actively encouraged to continue being ****s. Tight 5 on Latu

Tolu Latu, again.

Hate to keep mentioning it but he is an actual danger. One of the worst card records of all time, seems to never learn.

Top 14 refs seem to be the most desperate to find any excuse to mitigate a sanction down from a red card and yet FFR are still one of the strongest voices against the 20-minute red.

With Thomas and now Latu, what we seem to have ended up with recently in the Top 14 is the 10-minute red card - players getting a ban but back on the pitch after a 10-minute rest.

[Tichtheid]

Penalty try for Stormers, I think.

But the ref says no

[Tichtheid]

Woof. Sale battered the Stormers' scrum there

[Chilli2]

Link please.

[Tichtheid]

Link please.

I have it on Premier Sports

[Sards]

Woof. Sale battered the Stormers' scrum there

Finally the refs are onto Frans scrumming inward.

[Sards]

Two good tries and Stormers are ahead

[Sards]

Robert Du Preez is shit

[Sards]

Moerat is also crap. Knock ons

[Torquemada 1420]

Top 14 refs seem to be the most desperate to find any excuse to mitigate a sanction down from a red card and yet FFR are still one of the strongest voices against the 20-minute red.

With Thomas and now Latu, what we seem to have ended up with recently in the Top 14 is the 10-minute red card - players getting a ban but back on the pitch after a 10-minute rest.

They are keen to mitigate it down........ if it's a big team. But yes, your observations are correct in general.

[Sards]

Moerat is also crap. Knock ons

And again

[Torquemada 1420]

Vannes are great fun to watch. And an example of what is possible if you don't operate closed leagues.

[Sards]

Frans gets carded for scrumming inward. Last week he got away with it the whole game.

Would like ouboets thought on this. He thought Frans was scrumming well against the Sharks last week

[OomStruisbaai]

Frans gets carded for scrumming inward. Last week he got away with it the whole game.

Would like ouboets thought on this. He thought Frans was scrumming well against the Sharks last week

The Sharks LH never binds. Just scrum inwards all the time. The French ref look like a back and have no clue.

[OomStruisbaai]

Moerat is also crap. Knock ons

And again

Moerat is have a good game overshadow your has been Andrew's and Gims Ernst. He knocks it on all the time.

[OomStruisbaai]

Stormers have a good bench. Should bag a 5 pointer

[OomStruisbaai]

Loader and Roche is like fresh breeze for the Stormers. Libbok excellent

[Sards]

Frans gets carded for scrumming inward. Last week he got away with it the whole game.

Would like ouboets thought on this. He thought Frans was scrumming well against the Sharks last week

The Sharks LH never binds. Just scrum inwards all the time. The French ref look like a back and have no clue.

Obviously it was brought to the refs attention after last week ouboet. And it's clear as daylight. Frans scrums inward. Every time. The proof is in the card

[Sards]

Moerat is also crap. Knock ons

And again

Moerat is have a good game overshadow your has been Andrew's and Gims Ernst. He knocks it on all the time.

My who. No vok. Moerat is kak

[Sards]

Sale are dismal with Robert du Preez the worst. But Stormers have taken their opportunities.

[Sards]

Man the knock ons are endemic

[OomStruisbaai]

Frans gets carded for scrumming inward. Last week he got away with it the whole game.

Would like ouboets thought on this. He thought Frans was scrumming well against the Sharks last week

The Sharks LH never binds. Just scrum inwards all the time. The French ref look like a back and have no clue.

Obviously it was brought to the refs attention after last week ouboet. And it's clear as daylight. Frans scrums inward. Every time. The proof is in the card

and now he get penalized every scrum.

[Sards]

and now he get penalized every scrum.

Neethling a far better scrimmager . Can't argue there. Stormers on fire now

[Torquemada 1420]

Edinburgh losing to a town of 50,000 people whose attendances are probably greater than Ed's too.

[OomStruisbaai]

Curry looking for kants

[topofthemoon]

Edinburgh losing to a town of 50,000 people whose attendances are probably greater than Ed's too.

14 internationals with 339 caps in the Edinburgh starting XV versus 2 internationals with 4 caps for Vannes.

If Edinburgh lose this then I think their coach is done.

[Sards]

Bonus point Stormers. Well done boys

[OomStruisbaai]

Today show why the du Preez twins won't be Springboks

[Sards]

Today show why the du Preez twins won't be Springboks

Robert you mean. Rubbish

[Torquemada 1420]

Edinburgh "tackling"

[OomStruisbaai]

Stormers finally get it together.

[Sards]

Stormers finally get it together.

Relax. Sale are rubbish

[OomStruisbaai]

Today show why the du Preez twins won't be Springboks

Robert you mean. Rubbish

You probably didn't miss the twins. The were nowhere.

[Sards]

Today show why the du Preez twins won't be Springboks

Robert you mean. Rubbish

You probably didn't miss the twins. The were nowhere.

Agreed.

[ASMO]

1 word to describe Sale.....dogshit.....a backline composed of utter donkeys, DuPreez has been shocking, Bedlow is not good enough at this level, barely good enough at prem level...the rest completely anon.

[ASMO]

Stormers finally get it together.

Both are gash teams Stormers just less gash

[Sards]

Stormers will overtake Sale at 4th

[Torquemada 1420]

1 word to describe Sale.....dogshit.....a backline composed of utter donkeys, DuPreez has been shocking, Bedlow is not good enough at this level, barely good enough at prem level...the rest completely anon.

And they hammered Brizzle. Like I said, I just don't understand the Prem anymore.