So, coronavirus...

[Biffer]

Why are we happy to speak about the lethal variants for the virus according to their supposed source, like the Brazil variant, the South African variant, and the UK variant, but not allowed to refer to covid-19 as a Chinese or Wuhan virus? Fears of Xenophobia?

Mainly because of the way the phrase 'China virus' was used by Trump, as a tool to drive exactly that.

[Saint]

And in other news, I'm AZ dose 1 + 72 hours and having to dose up on paracetamol every 2 hours. My shoulder is murdering me

I won't call you a softcock just yet, as I haven't had any doses yet, & karma can be a bitch

I take heart from the fact that I've not ended up in bed for a week unlike some people I know.

I had a reaction to the flu vaccine like this once, around 15 years ago, so not anything I'm too concerned about. But I've had today off and am back to work tomorrow, and while I can use a mouse I;m going to struggle with long term keyboard use

[Ymx]

No one got upset over the name of the Australian Flu.

[Fangle]

No one got upset over the name of the Australian Flu.

Or Asian, Spanish, Rocky Mountain etc. And according to Politico Trump is now low energy. Hopefully he fades away.

[Lemoentjie]

Why are we happy to speak about the lethal variants for the virus according to their supposed source, like the Brazil variant, the South African variant, and the UK variant, but not allowed to refer to covid-19 as a Chinese or Wuhan virus? Fears of Xenophobia?

Yes. The Chinese know that fear of being accused of racism is a weapon against the West, therefore they use it like that. And it works.

[Calculon]

I guess the other names didn’t result in a surge of hate crime against a particular ethnic group, or more accurately in this case, anyone who looks a bit Chinese. If the media or politicians calling it by its proper name, rather than “China virus” or “Kong Flu”, has any inhibiting effect on anti-Asian sentiment, I would think it worth it.

[Uncle fester]

Why are we happy to speak about the lethal variants for the virus according to their supposed source, like the Brazil variant, the South African variant, and the UK variant, but not allowed to refer to covid-19 as a Chinese or Wuhan virus? Fears of Xenophobia?

Mainly because of the way the phrase 'China virus' was used by Trump, as a tool to drive exactly that.

Or the Kung Flu ( who by the way wasn’t Trump idea) Don’t all these coronavirus shits always start in Chiiinaa ?

Also does it ring the bell if they say the B.1.427 variant ?

Swine flu was North America.

[Uncle fester]

No one got upset over the name of the Australian Flu.

Or Asian, Spanish, Rocky Mountain etc. And according to Politico Trump is now low energy. Hopefully he fades away.

Spanish flu originated in US. First recorded cases in Kansas. Spanish were livid that the flu got tagged with their nationality.

[Fangle]

So, Asian flu is fine

[Saint]

At least in part it's due to timing. Covid was established as Covid before suddenly Donald started to try and rebrand it as Chynavirus. The motivation was clear - rebrand to make it sound like someone else's fault, especially at a time when the US was struggling to deal with it.

[Calculon]

Or Asian, Spanish, Rocky Mountain etc. And according to Politico Trump is now low energy. Hopefully he fades away.

Spanish flu originated in US. First recorded cases in Kansas. Spanish were livid that the flu got tagged with their nationality.

Wrong, you need to update your library, it came from China.

https://www.history.com/news/china-epic ... orian-says

You'll believe any old shit won't you?

[Fangle]

At least in part it's due to timing. Covid was established as Covid before suddenly Donald started to try and rebrand it as Chynavirus. The motivation was clear - rebrand to make it sound like someone else's fault, especially at a time when the US was struggling to deal with it.

Didn’t it take a while before they got to naming it.?Anyway I was just chatting idly. Call it anything you want.

[Saint]

At least in part it's due to timing. Covid was established as Covid before suddenly Donald started to try and rebrand it as Chynavirus. The motivation was clear - rebrand to make it sound like someone else's fault, especially at a time when the US was struggling to deal with it.

Didn’t it take a while before they got to naming it.?Anyway I was just chatting idly. Call it anything you want.

It was Covid-19/Coronavirus/Novel Coronavirus for months before Donnie tried Chynavirus on for size. Things could have turned out a lot of different ways, but the rebranding attempt was fairly blatant, and actually quite surprising given that at the same time he was attempting to run an attempt at a China foreign and trade policy alongside this

[Fonz]

Scheduled to take the J&J vaccine on the 11th.

Got only about a week to get my affairs in order.

[Rinkals]

At least in part it's due to timing. Covid was established as Covid before suddenly Donald started to try and rebrand it as Chynavirus. The motivation was clear - rebrand to make it sound like someone else's fault, especially at a time when the US was struggling to deal with it.

Didn’t it take a while before they got to naming it.?Anyway I was just chatting idly. Call it anything you want.

It was Covid-19/Coronavirus/Novel Coronavirus for months before Donnie tried Chynavirus on for size. Things could have turned out a lot of different ways, but the rebranding attempt was fairly blatant, and actually quite surprising given that at the same time he was attempting to run an attempt at a China foreign and trade policy alongside this

As far as I'm aware, the media I read refers to it as covid19.

Assigning an ethnic identity to it would seem to be driven by an agenda against that particular ethnic group.

[Fangle]

Didn’t it take a while before they got to naming it.?Anyway I was just chatting idly. Call it anything you want.

It was Covid-19/Coronavirus/Novel Coronavirus for months before Donnie tried Chynavirus on for size. Things could have turned out a lot of different ways, but the rebranding attempt was fairly blatant, and actually quite surprising given that at the same time he was attempting to run an attempt at a China foreign and trade policy alongside this

As far as I'm aware, the media I read refers to it as covid19.

Assigning an ethnic identity to it would seem to be driven by an agenda against that particular ethnic group.

Just like all the variants which are freely named by their assumed source? Of course not ethnic but geographical. But call it what you want as it really means so little to me. I also disagree with Trump. Calling it Covid is fine and I thought it vaguely interesting.

[yermum]

Scheduled to take the J&J vaccine on the 11th.

Got only about a week to get my affairs in order.

just think how good your cell reception will be tho...

[Lobby]

No one got upset over the name of the Australian Flu.

Or Asian, Spanish, Rocky Mountain etc. And according to Politico Trump is now low energy. Hopefully he fades away.

Spanish flu originated in US. First recorded cases in Kansas. Spanish were livid that the flu got tagged with their nationality.

Reports about the flu cases in the US and the other countries involved in WW1 were heavily censored in order to protect morale. Spain was neutral, and so the world press was free to report on cases there, and it’s consequential public association with the pandemic led to it being called the Spanish flu.

[Fangle]

Yep. The big ugly countries can spin it, but places like South Africa get lumbered with the killer variant.

[Sandstorm]

So all members of Indian group of G7 meeting in London are self-isolating after two of their team test positive for Covid.

Fortunately they haven’t turned up at any face-to-face meetings yet.

[Fangle]

They are working hard here in Georgia to get to the people by taking the clinics into the black mega churches and areas where the clinics are not easy to get to. Now they must get access to the evangelical churches to pressure them.

My reading of the charts show, that despite low vaccine rates in the south, their new cases loads are still better than the northern states.

[Rinkals]

It was Covid-19/Coronavirus/Novel Coronavirus for months before Donnie tried Chynavirus on for size. Things could have turned out a lot of different ways, but the rebranding attempt was fairly blatant, and actually quite surprising given that at the same time he was attempting to run an attempt at a China foreign and trade policy alongside this

As far as I'm aware, the media I read refers to it as covid19.

Assigning an ethnic identity to it would seem to be driven by an agenda against that particular ethnic group.

Just like all the variants which are freely named by their assumed source? Of course not ethnic but geographical. But call it what you want as it really means so little to me. I also disagree with Trump. Calling it Covid is fine and I thought it vaguely interesting.

Ok, you're talking about the variants?

In that case, I think it's fairly logical to refer to them by their geographic origins. It seems unlikely to be driven by any agenda against the inhabitants of the originating locale

[Rinkals]

The Seychelles seems to be in a bit of a pickle:

World’s Most-Vaccinated Nation Activates Curbs as Cases Rise

Seychelles, which has fully vaccinated more of its population against the coronavirus than any other country, has closed schools and canceled sporting activities for two weeks as infections surge.

The measures, which include bans on the intermingling of households and the early closure of bars, come even as the country has fully vaccinated more than 60% of its adult population with two doses of Covid-19 vaccines. The curbs are similar to those last imposed at the end of 2020.

“Despite of all the exceptional efforts we are making, the Covid-19 situation in our country is critical right now, with many daily cases reported last week,” Peggy Vidot, the nation’s health minister, said at a press conference Tuesday.

[fishfoodie]

The Seychelles seems to be in a bit of a pickle:

World’s Most-Vaccinated Nation Activates Curbs as Cases Rise

Seychelles, which has fully vaccinated more of its population against the coronavirus than any other country, has closed schools and canceled sporting activities for two weeks as infections surge.

The measures, which include bans on the intermingling of households and the early closure of bars, come even as the country has fully vaccinated more than 60% of its adult population with two doses of Covid-19 vaccines. The curbs are similar to those last imposed at the end of 2020.

“Despite of all the exceptional efforts we are making, the Covid-19 situation in our country is critical right now, with many daily cases reported last week,” Peggy Vidot, the nation’s health minister, said at a press conference Tuesday.

The Chinese had already admitted that their vaccine wasn't great; but this isn't great.

Hopefully it still significantly reduces the severity of cases.

[Margin__Walker]

Some context

[laurent]

30% of the adult population vaccinated today (1st shot) 25% of total in France

infection numbers still dropping and hospitals emptying slowly.

[Enzedder]

Why are we happy to speak about the lethal variants for the virus according to their supposed source, like the Brazil variant, the South African variant, and the UK variant, but not allowed to refer to covid-19 as a Chinese or Wuhan virus? Fears of Xenophobia?

Because it has a name. It's not a variant (the main bugger that is)

[Fangle]

I’m on my own, so probably wrong. I stand down completely.

[laurent]

Got my appointment for both shots.

Will be fully vaccinated for the summer holidays

[BnM]

Got my appointment for both shots.

Will be fully vaccinated for the summer holidays

Fantastic stuff.

[laurent]

Got my appointment for both shots.

Will be fully vaccinated for the summer holidays

Fantastic stuff.

Well my brother and sister in law are going to be able to fight over cancelled appointments (under 50 both) and latest announcement is that everyone can get a shot if there is available appointments on the next day.

1/2 million shot these past 2 days and average daily is over 400 000 (despite last week Saturday being a Bank holiday)
jansen vaccine coming in slowly however they will need to lower the age for the AstraZeneca as we are running out of old people eligible ;)

[BnM]

Looking forward to the announcement.

[BnM]

https://www.politico.eu/article/germany ... ll-adults/

BERLIN — Germany Thursday opened up the use of the Oxford/AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine for everyone over the age of 18 in order to speed up immunization efforts, Health Minister Jens Spahn announced.

Speaking at a press conference in Berlin following talks with Germany's 16 state-level health ministers, Spahn said the vaccine should become available to all, regardless of their medical history.

"We agreed today to completely abolish the prioritization of AstraZeneca's vaccine — this means that when vaccinations are administered in doctors' offices, it is the doctors who decide who is to be vaccinated and when, at their own discretion," he said, adding that "the vaccine can only be administered after the patient has been informed [about potential risks] by the doctor and an individual decision has been made."

The move came after AstraZeneca's vaccine experienced a drop in popularity in Germany earlier this year following reports of rare blood clots in some patients and a subsequent recommendation by national health authorities to only administer the jab to those over the age of 60. The European Medicines Agency has backed continued use of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine in all adults, while confirming a "possible link" to "very rare" cases of blood clotting.

Doctors in Germany will now also be able to decide on the length of time a patient should wait before getting a second dose, an interval which health experts recommend may range from four to 12 weeks in the case of AstraZeneca.

Earlier in the day, lawmakers in the Bundestag approved a proposal that offers more rights to those who are fully vaccinated. Spahn said given this decision, "many are asking themselves ... when they will get their second vaccination."

"That's why we want to leave the flexibility in the hands of the doctors and the patients," he said.

[Sandstorm]

https://www.politico.eu/article/germany ... ll-adults/

BERLIN — Germany Thursday opened up the use of the Oxford/AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine for everyone over the age of 18 in order to speed up immunization efforts, Health Minister Jens Spahn announced.

Speaking at a press conference in Berlin following talks with Germany's 16 state-level health ministers, Spahn said the vaccine should become available to all, regardless of their medical history.

"We agreed today to completely abolish the prioritization of AstraZeneca's vaccine — this means that when vaccinations are administered in doctors' offices, it is the doctors who decide who is to be vaccinated and when, at their own discretion," he said, adding that "the vaccine can only be administered after the patient has been informed [about potential risks] by the doctor and an individual decision has been made."

The move came after AstraZeneca's vaccine experienced a drop in popularity in Germany earlier this year following reports of rare blood clots in some patients and a subsequent recommendation by national health authorities to only administer the jab to those over the age of 60. The European Medicines Agency has backed continued use of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine in all adults, while confirming a "possible link" to "very rare" cases of blood clotting.

Doctors in Germany will now also be able to decide on the length of time a patient should wait before getting a second dose, an interval which health experts recommend may range from four to 12 weeks in the case of AstraZeneca.

Earlier in the day, lawmakers in the Bundestag approved a proposal that offers more rights to those who are fully vaccinated. Spahn said given this decision, "many are asking themselves ... when they will get their second vaccination."

"That's why we want to leave the flexibility in the hands of the doctors and the patients," he said.

Any movement from the Danes yet?

[mat the expat]

Got my appointment for both shots.

Will be fully vaccinated for the summer holidays

Same - I had my AZ shot cancelled and had to wait a month but now have my Pfizer shot booked - it's right next to my office

[TheNatalShark]

Any movement from the Danes yet?

They've upped the anti-Anglo rhetoric and also dropped the J&J vaccine from its rollout, as no-one told them where it was developed.

[TheNatalShark]

Well my brother and sister in law are going to be able to fight over cancelled appointments (under 50 both) and latest announcement is that everyone can get a shot if there is available appointments on the next day.

It's an absolute farce that nearly 5 months into the rollout Macron's team was promoting the use of the non-state Vitemadose in order to help achieve this, that they've given them so little time for developers to rework to facilitate it and haven't put pressure on all providers to submit data to feed all slot data into it.

Really is pushing 2nd gear to the limit whilst Spain/Germany/Italy are going into 4th/3rd.

[laurent]

Well my brother and sister in law are going to be able to fight over cancelled appointments (under 50 both) and latest announcement is that everyone can get a shot if there is available appointments on the next day.

It's an absolute farce that nearly 5 months into the rollout Macron's team was promoting the use of the non-state Vitemadose in order to help achieve this, that they've given them so little time for developers to rework to facilitate it and haven't put pressure on all providers to submit data to feed all slot data into it.

Really is pushing 2nd gear to the limit whilst Spain/Germany/Italy are going into 4th/3rd.

Not really much in this the site above is an agregator the booking applications allow you to book in one place at a time (IE your doc / pharmacist or vacc center).

France is vaccinating as much as the others however cancelled appointments and no shows are the reason some slots reopen this are these slots that can and have been used by people under the elligibility window.

Over 50 are fully elligible from monday and so far 30% of the adult population has had 1 shot at least.
My brother and sister in Law are very eager to get in especially as they want to go to la Réunion to visit family. What Macron did was make official what was happening already: people showing up at the vacc centers for leftovers.

PS not defending Macron on this they gambled with the English variant and an earlier shutdown was called for and would have seen us in a better situation now (not in terms of vaccines but contamination level).

[laurent]

Well my brother and sister in law are going to be able to fight over cancelled appointments (under 50 both) and latest announcement is that everyone can get a shot if there is available appointments on the next day.

It's an absolute farce that nearly 5 months into the rollout Macron's team was promoting the use of the non-state Vitemadose in order to help achieve this, that they've given them so little time for developers to rework to facilitate it and haven't put pressure on all providers to submit data to feed all slot data into it.

Really is pushing 2nd gear to the limit whilst Spain/Germany/Italy are going into 4th/3rd.

Not really much in this the site above is an agregator the booking applications allow you to book in one place at a time (IE your doc / pharmacist or vacc center).

France is vaccinating as much as the others however cancelled appointments and no shows are the reason some slots reopen this are these slots that can and have been used by people under the elligibility window.

Over 50 are fully elligible from monday and so far 30% of the adult population has had 1 shot at least.
My brother and sister in Law are very eager to get in especially as they want to go to la Réunion to visit family. What Macron did was make official what was happening already: people showing up at the vacc centers for leftovers.

PS not defending Macron on this (or pretty much anything) they gambled with the English variant and an earlier shutdown was called for and would have seen us in a better situation now (not in terms of vaccines but contamination level).

[FalseBayFC]

Have enjoyed the UK vs EU vaccine soap opera immensely. Lots of displaced Brexit anxiety and anger on display. Helps to distract from SA's vaccine disaster.