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Once can be written off as misinterpretation, heat of the moment, not worth it etc., but if you believe someone has racially abused you twice in two games then of course you're going to bring it up._Os_ wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:23 amIf it happened and it's serious stuff etc, then why not bring it when it happened.sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:18 amBoth here and on reddit it is bizarre seeing some Saffas so incapable of grasping why the same thing happening with the same two players the last time these teams played might be relevant to an allegation being made the next time it happens._Os_ wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:03 am
No no, remember 2022 that urgently needs to be brought up after England lose a semi final to the Boks?!
It's just as weird as the suggestion or implication that this is being done to try and disrupt SA's prep for a final and not simply an issue being raised as and when it occurred. When would you like it to be brought up? Because if Curry and the RFU waited until after the final I'm sure some of you would be castigating both for trying to rain on your parade/rub salt into the wounds depending on the outcome and/or questioning why it wasn't raised at the time.
It looks incredibly bad to being it up after losing a RWC semi, and to come with no evidence.
You lot would be going ape shit if SARU were doing this and accusing one of your players of racism without evidence. Absolutely none of us would want to be accused of racism in their workplace without there even being any evidence to action anything, but with those accusations somehow still standing and being supported by those in more powerful positions.
People would be less dismissive if it was raised at the time. Not a year later after losing a RWC semi.sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:34 amOnce can be written off as misinterpretation, heat of the moment, not worth it etc., but if you believe someone has racially abused you twice in two games then of course you're going to bring it up._Os_ wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:23 amIf it happened and it's serious stuff etc, then why not bring it when it happened.sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:18 am
Both here and on reddit it is bizarre seeing some Saffas so incapable of grasping why the same thing happening with the same two players the last time these teams played might be relevant to an allegation being made the next time it happens.
It's just as weird as the suggestion or implication that this is being done to try and disrupt SA's prep for a final and not simply an issue being raised as and when it occurred. When would you like it to be brought up? Because if Curry and the RFU waited until after the final I'm sure some of you would be castigating both for trying to rain on your parade/rub salt into the wounds depending on the outcome and/or questioning why it wasn't raised at the time.
It looks incredibly bad to being it up after losing a RWC semi, and to come with no evidence.
You lot would be going ape shit if SARU were doing this and accusing one of your players of racism without evidence. Absolutely none of us would want to be accused of racism in their workplace without there even being any evidence to action anything, but with those accusations somehow still standing and being supported by those in more powerful positions.
Again, when would you like all this to be raised if it can't be done so immediately after it happened? In 3 months when the world cup is completely in the rear view? Curry raised it in the game and pursued it afterwards. That is entirely right and proper. He and the RFU clearly felt there was enough evidence to support, World Rugby disagree. That's not the same thing as being without evidence.
'Shut up if you don't think you can prove it' is certainly an interesting approach. Basically carte blanche for anything goes if players are fairly certain they're sufficiently far from the ref mic or obscured from cameras.
Which probably happens in every game.sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:34 am Basically carte blanche for anything goes if players are fairly certain they're sufficiently far from the ref mic or obscured from cameras.
Why?Sandstorm wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:28 amFrom the plaintiff? I think you'll need someone else too, mate.
This is fantastic comedic stuff.Sandstorm wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:59 amOomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:57 amCar salesman my Scot broers told me. Its the perfect job for him. Selling white cars.
If I punched someone and they chose not to do anything about it at the time, they aren't in the wrong for bringing it up if I punch them a year later._Os_ wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:37 amPeople would be less dismissive if it was raised at the time. Not a year later after losing a RWC semi.sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:34 amOnce can be written off as misinterpretation, heat of the moment, not worth it etc., but if you believe someone has racially abused you twice in two games then of course you're going to bring it up._Os_ wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:23 am
If it happened and it's serious stuff etc, then why not bring it when it happened.
It looks incredibly bad to being it up after losing a RWC semi, and to come with no evidence.
You lot would be going ape shit if SARU were doing this and accusing one of your players of racism without evidence. Absolutely none of us would want to be accused of racism in their workplace without there even being any evidence to action anything, but with those accusations somehow still standing and being supported by those in more powerful positions.
Again, when would you like all this to be raised if it can't be done so immediately after it happened? In 3 months when the world cup is completely in the rear view? Curry raised it in the game and pursued it afterwards. That is entirely right and proper. He and the RFU clearly felt there was enough evidence to support, World Rugby disagree. That's not the same thing as being without evidence.
'Shut up if you don't think you can prove it' is certainly an interesting approach. Basically carte blanche for anything goes if players are fairly certain they're sufficiently far from the ref mic or obscured from cameras.
There isn't the evidence to charge Bongi with anything. That is a fact.
You allegedly punched someone a year ago, it then gets brought up in a independent (World Rugby isn't SARU or the RFU) disciplinary process and it's found there isn't evidence you punched someone. The whole time you maintained you hadn't punched anyone.sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:24 pmIf I punched someone and they chose not to do anything about it at the time, they aren't in the wrong for bringing it up if I punch them a year later._Os_ wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:37 amPeople would be less dismissive if it was raised at the time. Not a year later after losing a RWC semi.sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:34 am
Once can be written off as misinterpretation, heat of the moment, not worth it etc., but if you believe someone has racially abused you twice in two games then of course you're going to bring it up.
Again, when would you like all this to be raised if it can't be done so immediately after it happened? In 3 months when the world cup is completely in the rear view? Curry raised it in the game and pursued it afterwards. That is entirely right and proper. He and the RFU clearly felt there was enough evidence to support, World Rugby disagree. That's not the same thing as being without evidence.
'Shut up if you don't think you can prove it' is certainly an interesting approach. Basically carte blanche for anything goes if players are fairly certain they're sufficiently far from the ref mic or obscured from cameras.
There isn't the evidence to charge Bongi with anything. That is a fact.
You keep getting hung up on the 2022 incident. If it was being brought up in isolation you might have a point, but it's not. It's being raised in context of another incident of the same nature, involving the same players happening during the semi-final.
Rhubarb has already covered your issue with the evidence.
The RFU statement as clear as day undermines the World Rugby disciplinary process. You just think it's good they're doing that.JM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:14 pm The RFU aren't angry that the Saffer wasn't found guilty. They're annoyed at the lack of due process. Not even interviewing Curry and Mbonambi, just going "eh it's unlikely we could prove it one way or another so let's just forget about it" is a dreadful look especially when Curry's copped such abuse and threats for reporting it in the first place.
The precedent for situations like this has always been to take it seriously and actually make an effort to determine the events on field by interviewing people. WR might think they're just trying to avoid drama in a scenario when they don't believe a definitive answer can be found, but all they're doing is feeding the conspiracy theorists and increasing the chance that abuse goes unpunished in future; who would risk reporting it in future if this is the likely response?
No, you lot deserve every criticism you get and have earned it tenfold._Os_ wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:21 pmThe RFU statement as clear as day undermines the World Rugby disciplinary process. You just think it's good they're doing that.JM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:14 pm The RFU aren't angry that the Saffer wasn't found guilty. They're annoyed at the lack of due process. Not even interviewing Curry and Mbonambi, just going "eh it's unlikely we could prove it one way or another so let's just forget about it" is a dreadful look especially when Curry's copped such abuse and threats for reporting it in the first place.
The precedent for situations like this has always been to take it seriously and actually make an effort to determine the events on field by interviewing people. WR might think they're just trying to avoid drama in a scenario when they don't believe a definitive answer can be found, but all they're doing is feeding the conspiracy theorists and increasing the chance that abuse goes unpunished in future; who would risk reporting it in future if this is the likely response?
Which is fine, it's your right to hold that view. But all the criticisms of Rassie and South African rugby start to ring a bit hollow.
Doesn't sound like much of a disciplinary process. Any other serious workplace with a similar accusation and you'd have all of the participants interviewed and a considered (and fully recorded) conclusion. Even if the end result is the same with insufficient evidence of an offence._Os_ wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:21 pmThe RFU statement as clear as day undermines the World Rugby disciplinary process. You just think it's good they're doing that.JM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:14 pm The RFU aren't angry that the Saffer wasn't found guilty. They're annoyed at the lack of due process. Not even interviewing Curry and Mbonambi, just going "eh it's unlikely we could prove it one way or another so let's just forget about it" is a dreadful look especially when Curry's copped such abuse and threats for reporting it in the first place.
The precedent for situations like this has always been to take it seriously and actually make an effort to determine the events on field by interviewing people. WR might think they're just trying to avoid drama in a scenario when they don't believe a definitive answer can be found, but all they're doing is feeding the conspiracy theorists and increasing the chance that abuse goes unpunished in future; who would risk reporting it in future if this is the likely response?
Which is fine, it's your right to hold that view. But all the criticisms of Rassie and South African rugby start to ring a bit hollow.
Bad when we do it.JM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:30 pmNo, you lot deserve every criticism you get and have earned it tenfold._Os_ wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:21 pmThe RFU statement as clear as day undermines the World Rugby disciplinary process. You just think it's good they're doing that.JM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:14 pm The RFU aren't angry that the Saffer wasn't found guilty. They're annoyed at the lack of due process. Not even interviewing Curry and Mbonambi, just going "eh it's unlikely we could prove it one way or another so let's just forget about it" is a dreadful look especially when Curry's copped such abuse and threats for reporting it in the first place.
The precedent for situations like this has always been to take it seriously and actually make an effort to determine the events on field by interviewing people. WR might think they're just trying to avoid drama in a scenario when they don't believe a definitive answer can be found, but all they're doing is feeding the conspiracy theorists and increasing the chance that abuse goes unpunished in future; who would risk reporting it in future if this is the likely response?
Which is fine, it's your right to hold that view. But all the criticisms of Rassie and South African rugby start to ring a bit hollow.
World Rugby have hung Curry out to dry by not following that same process that every union has followed in previous cases like this. There's nothing to undermine because they've done nothing.
Hmm ...Margin__Walker wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:32 pmDoesn't sound like much of a disciplinary process. Any other serious workplace with a similar accusation and you'd have all of the participants interviewed and a considered (and fully recorded) conclusion. Even if the end result is the same with insufficient evidence of an offence._Os_ wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:21 pmThe RFU statement as clear as day undermines the World Rugby disciplinary process. You just think it's good they're doing that.JM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:14 pm The RFU aren't angry that the Saffer wasn't found guilty. They're annoyed at the lack of due process. Not even interviewing Curry and Mbonambi, just going "eh it's unlikely we could prove it one way or another so let's just forget about it" is a dreadful look especially when Curry's copped such abuse and threats for reporting it in the first place.
The precedent for situations like this has always been to take it seriously and actually make an effort to determine the events on field by interviewing people. WR might think they're just trying to avoid drama in a scenario when they don't believe a definitive answer can be found, but all they're doing is feeding the conspiracy theorists and increasing the chance that abuse goes unpunished in future; who would risk reporting it in future if this is the likely response?
Which is fine, it's your right to hold that view. But all the criticisms of Rassie and South African rugby start to ring a bit hollow.
Margin__Walker wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:00 am Why would Curry moan during the game about something that happened a year ago.
Any why would the RFU take issue with it now rather than then?
WTF do you mean by lack of due process? It was investigated by World Rugby immediately after the allegation surfaced.JM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:14 pm The RFU aren't angry that the Saffer wasn't found guilty. They're annoyed at the lack of due process. Not even interviewing Curry and Mbonambi, just going "eh it's unlikely we could prove it one way or another so let's just forget about it" is a dreadful look especially when Curry's copped such abuse and threats for reporting it in the first place.
The precedent for situations like this has always been to take it seriously and actually make an effort to determine the events on field by interviewing people. WR might think they're just trying to avoid drama in a scenario when they don't believe a definitive answer can be found, but all they're doing is feeding the conspiracy theorists and increasing the chance that abuse goes unpunished in future; who would risk reporting it in future if this is the likely response?
It's so incredibly asinine that you are trying to compare Rassie's behaviour with the RFU expressing dismay at Curry not even being interviewed after reporting being racially abused. I don't know what it is about rugby that makes you such a disingenuous prick to converse with but it's genuinely weird._Os_ wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:32 pmBad when we do it.JM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:30 pmNo, you lot deserve every criticism you get and have earned it tenfold._Os_ wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:21 pm
The RFU statement as clear as day undermines the World Rugby disciplinary process. You just think it's good they're doing that.
Which is fine, it's your right to hold that view. But all the criticisms of Rassie and South African rugby start to ring a bit hollow.
World Rugby have hung Curry out to dry by not following that same process that every union has followed in previous cases like this. There's nothing to undermine because they've done nothing.
All excellent and very clever when you do it.
Fuck me, the state of that whataboutery.assfly wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:35 pmWTF do you mean by lack of due process? It was investigated by World Rugby immediately after the allegation surfaced.JM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:14 pm The RFU aren't angry that the Saffer wasn't found guilty. They're annoyed at the lack of due process. Not even interviewing Curry and Mbonambi, just going "eh it's unlikely we could prove it one way or another so let's just forget about it" is a dreadful look especially when Curry's copped such abuse and threats for reporting it in the first place.
The precedent for situations like this has always been to take it seriously and actually make an effort to determine the events on field by interviewing people. WR might think they're just trying to avoid drama in a scenario when they don't believe a definitive answer can be found, but all they're doing is feeding the conspiracy theorists and increasing the chance that abuse goes unpunished in future; who would risk reporting it in future if this is the likely response?
I find this all very rich coming from such an inept sporting body such as the RFU. Where was their due process when they were agreeing Eddie Jones' contract extension that backfired so badly? Where was their due process when Worcester and Wasps went under? Where is their due process when the England team regularly have such bad 6N results? The RFU is a complete joke, they're in no position to judge due process.
I know you're not stupid Os, so why pretend to be on here?_Os_ wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:34 pmHmm ...Margin__Walker wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:32 pmDoesn't sound like much of a disciplinary process. Any other serious workplace with a similar accusation and you'd have all of the participants interviewed and a considered (and fully recorded) conclusion. Even if the end result is the same with insufficient evidence of an offence._Os_ wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:21 pm
The RFU statement as clear as day undermines the World Rugby disciplinary process. You just think it's good they're doing that.
Which is fine, it's your right to hold that view. But all the criticisms of Rassie and South African rugby start to ring a bit hollow.Margin__Walker wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:00 am Why would Curry moan during the game about something that happened a year ago.
Any why would the RFU take issue with it now rather than then?
Yeah. It seems it’s this that the RFU take exception to.Margin__Walker wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:32 pmDoesn't sound like much of a disciplinary process. Any other serious workplace with a similar accusation and you'd have all of the participants interviewed and a considered (and fully recorded) conclusion. Even if the end result is the same with insufficient evidence of an offence._Os_ wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:21 pmThe RFU statement as clear as day undermines the World Rugby disciplinary process. You just think it's good they're doing that.JM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:14 pm The RFU aren't angry that the Saffer wasn't found guilty. They're annoyed at the lack of due process. Not even interviewing Curry and Mbonambi, just going "eh it's unlikely we could prove it one way or another so let's just forget about it" is a dreadful look especially when Curry's copped such abuse and threats for reporting it in the first place.
The precedent for situations like this has always been to take it seriously and actually make an effort to determine the events on field by interviewing people. WR might think they're just trying to avoid drama in a scenario when they don't believe a definitive answer can be found, but all they're doing is feeding the conspiracy theorists and increasing the chance that abuse goes unpunished in future; who would risk reporting it in future if this is the likely response?
Which is fine, it's your right to hold that view. But all the criticisms of Rassie and South African rugby start to ring a bit hollow.
Plenty to criticise the RFU for (not that any of this is relevant), but if you look at how they treat allegations of racist or homophobic abuse in our grassroots game it is a well managed clear and transparent process involving rugby people and legally qualified individuals.assfly wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:35 pmWTF do you mean by lack of due process? It was investigated by World Rugby immediately after the allegation surfaced.JM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:14 pm The RFU aren't angry that the Saffer wasn't found guilty. They're annoyed at the lack of due process. Not even interviewing Curry and Mbonambi, just going "eh it's unlikely we could prove it one way or another so let's just forget about it" is a dreadful look especially when Curry's copped such abuse and threats for reporting it in the first place.
The precedent for situations like this has always been to take it seriously and actually make an effort to determine the events on field by interviewing people. WR might think they're just trying to avoid drama in a scenario when they don't believe a definitive answer can be found, but all they're doing is feeding the conspiracy theorists and increasing the chance that abuse goes unpunished in future; who would risk reporting it in future if this is the likely response?
I find this all very rich coming from such an inept sporting body such as the RFU. Where was their due process when they were agreeing Eddie Jones' contract extension that backfired so badly? Where was their due process when Worcester and Wasps went under? Where is their due process when the England team regularly have such bad 6N results? The RFU is a complete joke, they're in no position to judge due process.
They asked for someone to bring evidence that is definitive. I am sure there are hacks somewhere amongst the English that can provide it. Otherwise it's he said and she saidJM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:30 pmNo, you lot deserve every criticism you get and have earned it tenfold._Os_ wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:21 pmThe RFU statement as clear as day undermines the World Rugby disciplinary process. You just think it's good they're doing that.JM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:14 pm The RFU aren't angry that the Saffer wasn't found guilty. They're annoyed at the lack of due process. Not even interviewing Curry and Mbonambi, just going "eh it's unlikely we could prove it one way or another so let's just forget about it" is a dreadful look especially when Curry's copped such abuse and threats for reporting it in the first place.
The precedent for situations like this has always been to take it seriously and actually make an effort to determine the events on field by interviewing people. WR might think they're just trying to avoid drama in a scenario when they don't believe a definitive answer can be found, but all they're doing is feeding the conspiracy theorists and increasing the chance that abuse goes unpunished in future; who would risk reporting it in future if this is the likely response?
Which is fine, it's your right to hold that view. But all the criticisms of Rassie and South African rugby start to ring a bit hollow.
World Rugby have hung Curry out to dry by not following that same process that every union has followed in previous cases like this. There's nothing to undermine because they've done nothing.
I think you should take Curry's case.Margin__Walker wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:40 pmI know you're not stupid Os, so why pretend to be on here?_Os_ wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:34 pmHmm ...Margin__Walker wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:32 pm
Doesn't sound like much of a disciplinary process. Any other serious workplace with a similar accusation and you'd have all of the participants interviewed and a considered (and fully recorded) conclusion. Even if the end result is the same with insufficient evidence of an offence.Margin__Walker wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:00 am Why would Curry moan during the game about something that happened a year ago.
Any why would the RFU take issue with it now rather than then?
During the game he was complaining about the incident that happened during the same game.
This post this was in response to was the one where both the tweet you quoted and your comment stated that the entire complaint was about an incident from a year ago, rather than the semi. Which was clearly incorrect. Suggesting that he picked that exact moment to complain to BoK about something that happened a year before.
When it is a case of "he said she said" you generally at least make an effort to go through in detail what was said and the context/circumstances around it with both parties individuallySards wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:10 pmThey asked for someone to bring evidence that is definitive. I am sure there are hacks somewhere amongst the English that can provide it. Otherwise it's he said and she saidJM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:30 pmNo, you lot deserve every criticism you get and have earned it tenfold._Os_ wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:21 pm
The RFU statement as clear as day undermines the World Rugby disciplinary process. You just think it's good they're doing that.
Which is fine, it's your right to hold that view. But all the criticisms of Rassie and South African rugby start to ring a bit hollow.
World Rugby have hung Curry out to dry by not following that same process that every union has followed in previous cases like this. There's nothing to undermine because they've done nothing.
Fine. Can you lot wait until Monday morning to lodge a formal complaint please? There are a couple of more important things happening at present than Curry's suspect hearing and knowledge of Afrikaans.Paddington Bear wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:58 pmPlenty to criticise the RFU for (not that any of this is relevant), but if you look at how they treat allegations of racist or homophobic abuse in our grassroots game it is a well managed clear and transparent process involving rugby people and legally qualified individuals.assfly wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:35 pmWTF do you mean by lack of due process? It was investigated by World Rugby immediately after the allegation surfaced.JM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:14 pm The RFU aren't angry that the Saffer wasn't found guilty. They're annoyed at the lack of due process. Not even interviewing Curry and Mbonambi, just going "eh it's unlikely we could prove it one way or another so let's just forget about it" is a dreadful look especially when Curry's copped such abuse and threats for reporting it in the first place.
The precedent for situations like this has always been to take it seriously and actually make an effort to determine the events on field by interviewing people. WR might think they're just trying to avoid drama in a scenario when they don't believe a definitive answer can be found, but all they're doing is feeding the conspiracy theorists and increasing the chance that abuse goes unpunished in future; who would risk reporting it in future if this is the likely response?
I find this all very rich coming from such an inept sporting body such as the RFU. Where was their due process when they were agreeing Eddie Jones' contract extension that backfired so badly? Where was their due process when Worcester and Wasps went under? Where is their due process when the England team regularly have such bad 6N results? The RFU is a complete joke, they're in no position to judge due process.
Oh, did they take statements from both players? Got a link to that info?average joe wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:07 pm Where does this accusation of "due process was not followed" come from? According to World Rugby they considered all the evidence including video footage, in game sound recordings and statements from both kante. So how as Currie not heard? Surly the statement they had included has accusation. You Brits look like real kante going on about this, agter kante.
Doubt they got anything from Bongi. He's practising throwing into the lineout on the middel kant.JM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:15 pmOh, did they take statements from both players? Got a link to that info?average joe wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:07 pm Where does this accusation of "due process was not followed" come from? According to World Rugby they considered all the evidence including video footage, in game sound recordings and statements from both kante. So how as Currie not heard? Surly the statement they had included has accusation. You Brits look like real kante going on about this, agter kante.
Makes a good pizza thoughSandstorm wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:20 pmDoubt they got anything from Bongi. He's practising throwing into the lineout on the middel kant.JM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:15 pmOh, did they take statements from both players? Got a link to that info?average joe wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:07 pm Where does this accusation of "due process was not followed" come from? According to World Rugby they considered all the evidence including video footage, in game sound recordings and statements from both kante. So how as Currie not heard? Surly the statement they had included has accusation. You Brits look like real kante going on about this, agter kante.
This place makes Turkey Sandwiches:
From the World Rugby statement:JM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:15 pm Oh, did they take statements from both players? Got a link to that info?
It's pretty much standard that in any case like this involving two individuals, both would be interviewed individually. Suggesting otherwise is a bit ridiculous... a lack of due process is a fair claim.assfly wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:50 amFrom the World Rugby statement:JM2K6 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:15 pm Oh, did they take statements from both players? Got a link to that info?
"Having considered all the available evidence, including match footage, audio and evidence from both teams"
I really don't get all this bullshit about Curry not being given a chance. He obviously spoke to them after the match when he raised the issue of the 2022 allegation.
Imagine how bad it would be if SA lost.
I tried to, but I can't.
Armbands for a full year.
Uncle fester wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:36 am Armbands for a full year.
Ref sent to camps.
Traditional eye gouging to commence at the anthems.
