NPR

FalseBayFC wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:39 pm

Sards wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:14 pm

Blake wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:29 pm

100% agree.

My point is that us as individuals should be data literate and vigilant so that we can spot the trends early enough so that we don't have to wait for the heavy hammer of Government to come slamming down on us. We are not out of the woods by any stretch of the imagination and if we become complacent there will be an upswing, a 3rd wave and possibly another catastrophic lockdown...all avoidable.

Dude you can put a balance sheet in front of me showing a profit and in half an hour I will show a break even. Data can so easily be manipulated .

You mean income statement, balance sheet shows solvency. Yes I am serious about the crime wave and civil unrest. The poor have very little left in the tank and winter is here soon.

Sards wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:14 pm Dude you can put a balance sheet in front of me showing a profit and in half an hour I will show a break even. Data can so easily be manipulated .

Blake wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:37 pm

Sards wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:14 pm Dude you can put a balance sheet in front of me showing a profit and in half an hour I will show a break even. Data can so easily be manipulated .

True, but give me decent forensic auditor and your fraud will be exposed.

There are so many eyeballs from actuaries and statisticians and academics on the Covid data and it is being picked apart by so many people and models and simulations, that there really isn’t really anywhere to hide in the data.

Where there was underreporting, of covid infections or deaths, there are a number of other data markers to expose that and it is adjusted for in the models used for decision making.

But the media and public usually focus on the most flawed numbers because they are also the easiest to interpret...and challenge based on anecdotal experiences or stories.

Sards wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:07 am

assfly wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:58 am Yea Oom, why did you personally decline those opportunities?

Seriously.... i would kill for a match against the Kiwi teams right now....

Griquas
Pumas
Cheetahs
Stormers


Vok me...thats like school boy rugby

FalseBayFC wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:40 pm

Blake wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:29 pm

FalseBayFC wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:07 pm Accurately tracking infections and deaths was never going to be possible in SA. The primary objective imo was to prevent our health system being completely overwhelmed. Pointless to compare ourselves on any worldometer. Press on with vaccination and continue with prudent containment measures is now key. But we also need to remove any obstacles to our economic recovery. That is causing more suffering than the illness itself - the economic collapse that is.

100% agree.

My point is that us as individuals should be data literate and vigilant so that we can spot the trends early enough so that we don't have to wait for the heavy hammer of Government to come slamming down on us. We are not out of the woods by any stretch of the imagination and if we become complacent there will be an upswing, a 3rd wave and possibly another catastrophic lockdown...all avoidable.

Yep, a lot of the talk on the other threads seems to involve cock waving, hand wringing, hubris and schadenfreude. All based on the global death and infection rankings.

I think that considering our circumstances we've done OK. I rely on local anecdotal evidence, some data like the small sample sero-prevalence studies etc to inform my attitude to this.

My contacts in Khayelitsha, Mitchells plain etc suggest that another lockdown won't be tolerated. A major crime wave and civil unrest would be on the cards imo.

Chilli wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:24 am

FalseBayFC wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:40 pm

Blake wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:29 pm

100% agree.

My point is that us as individuals should be data literate and vigilant so that we can spot the trends early enough so that we don't have to wait for the heavy hammer of Government to come slamming down on us. We are not out of the woods by any stretch of the imagination and if we become complacent there will be an upswing, a 3rd wave and possibly another catastrophic lockdown...all avoidable.

Yep, a lot of the talk on the other threads seems to involve cock waving, hand wringing, hubris and schadenfreude. All based on the global death and infection rankings.

I think that considering our circumstances we've done OK. I rely on local anecdotal evidence, some data like the small sample sero-prevalence studies etc to inform my attitude to this.

My contacts in Khayelitsha, Mitchells plain etc suggest that another lockdown won't be tolerated. A major crime wave and civil unrest would be on the cards imo.

Your contacts at the robots? The newspaper sellers?

Chilli wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:24 am

FalseBayFC wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:40 pm

Blake wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:29 pm

100% agree.

My point is that us as individuals should be data literate and vigilant so that we can spot the trends early enough so that we don't have to wait for the heavy hammer of Government to come slamming down on us. We are not out of the woods by any stretch of the imagination and if we become complacent there will be an upswing, a 3rd wave and possibly another catastrophic lockdown...all avoidable.

Yep, a lot of the talk on the other threads seems to involve cock waving, hand wringing, hubris and schadenfreude. All based on the global death and infection rankings.

I think that considering our circumstances we've done OK. I rely on local anecdotal evidence, some data like the small sample sero-prevalence studies etc to inform my attitude to this.

My contacts in Khayelitsha, Mitchells plain etc suggest that another lockdown won't be tolerated. A major crime wave and civil unrest would be on the cards imo.

Your contacts at the robots? The newspaper sellers?

assfly wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:53 am Guy in my office tested positive yesterday. Currently awaiting testing and office shut for two weeks. The 3rd wave is well and truly here in Kenya.

FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:17 am

Chilli wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:24 am

FalseBayFC wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:40 pm
Yep, a lot of the talk on the other threads seems to involve cock waving, hand wringing, hubris and schadenfreude. All based on the global death and infection rankings.

I think that considering our circumstances we've done OK. I rely on local anecdotal evidence, some data like the small sample sero-prevalence studies etc to inform my attitude to this.

My contacts in Khayelitsha, Mitchells plain etc suggest that another lockdown won't be tolerated. A major crime wave and civil unrest would be on the cards imo.

Your contacts at the robots? The newspaper sellers?

lol no I mean people I've worked with, work with, go to church with, played league cricket and rugby with. Our church does food and adult diaper distribution on the cape flats and townships. I have met and worked with gang members from most of Cape Towns big gangs. Many of them cross over between formal business and crime. To get access to some areas for charity work you need to meet some shady characters.

Chilli wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:29 am

FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:17 am

Chilli wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:24 am
Your contacts at the robots? The newspaper sellers?

lol no I mean people I've worked with, work with, go to church with, played league cricket and rugby with. Our church does food and adult diaper distribution on the cape flats and townships. I have met and worked with gang members from most of Cape Towns big gangs. Many of them cross over between formal business and crime. To get access to some areas for charity work you need to meet some shady characters.

It was a bit of a woosh.
One of our departed posters used to get his rugby knowledge from them.

handyman wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:21 am

assfly wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:53 am Guy in my office tested positive yesterday. Currently awaiting testing and office shut for two weeks. The 3rd wave is well and truly here in Kenya.

Holdings thumbs for you boet. All the best.

assfly wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:53 am Guy in my office tested positive yesterday. Currently awaiting testing and office shut for two weeks. The 3rd wave is well and truly here in Kenya.

Chilli wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:02 am Eish. I hope that it hasn't spread through your office.

assfly wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:15 am

Chilli wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:02 am Eish. I hope that it hasn't spread through your office.

It may have already come and gone, It's a young team and in Kenya we've consistently had 80-90% of cases asymptomatic. But let's see and hope for the best.

assfly wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:53 am Guy in my office tested positive yesterday. Currently awaiting testing and office shut for two weeks. The 3rd wave is well and truly here in Kenya.

OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:35 am Hope you stay away from your wife for 2 weeks.

assfly wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:37 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:35 am Hope you stay away from your wife for 2 weeks.

As tempting as it sounds, it's not entirely practical. If I've got it, it is highly likely she will already have, and the kids. But yes I will isolate until they can all test too.

OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:22 pm That sound easy. Control yourself!

average joe wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:19 pm What type of fish do you catch in the bush?

average joe wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:36 pm No hickory?

Calculon wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:23 am Hope your wife makes a quick recovery Fangle.

I'm currently in Stellenbosch, thousands of students have invaded the town, no social distancing and minimal mask wearing.

Fangle wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:00 pm My wife has Covid. Four years ago she had a stroke weakening her left side mainly but she got to walking fine. On Monday she showed flu-like symptoms like high temperature and sore throat which we treated with ice packs etc. and since then her temperature wasn’t much above normal. But she was getting weaker and couldn’t walk to the loo. We thought it was a mini-stroke and called the ambulance.

On admission they always test for Covid and she was positive. CAT scans showed no brain change. So all the weakness must be due to Covid. She is in ICU and looks stable. I have no symptoms as yet, have had a test (results in 48 hours), and am self-isolating.

On checking all the people we have been in contact with - fairly few - I found that one of the house cleaners has covid as well. They were here last Tuesday and we tried to stay in different rooms from them. Not too well, apparently. Wife is stable.

Fangle wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:00 pm My wife has Covid. Four years ago she had a stroke weakening her left side mainly but she got to walking fine. On Monday she showed flu-like symptoms like high temperature and sore throat which we treated with ice packs etc. and since then her temperature wasn’t much above normal. But she was getting weaker and couldn’t walk to the loo. We thought it was a mini-stroke and called the ambulance.

On admission they always test for Covid and she was positive. CAT scans showed no brain change. So all the weakness must be due to Covid. She is in ICU and looks stable. I have no symptoms as yet, have had a test (results in 48 hours), and am self-isolating.

On checking all the people we have been in contact with - fairly few - I found that one of the house cleaners has covid as well. They were here last Tuesday and we tried to stay in different rooms from them. Not too well, apparently. Wife is stable.

assfly wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:28 am My test came back negative, as has most of my office so far. Thankfully everyone has been quite good about wearing of masks.

Best of luck to your wife Fangle

Chilli wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:57 am Beers on you at the pub later?

assfly wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:02 am

Chilli wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:57 am Beers on you at the pub later?

Oh yes!

Chilli wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:13 am Appropriately social distanced with you being in Kenya and me in PE.

Fangle wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:00 pm My wife has Covid. Four years ago she had a stroke weakening her left side mainly but she got to walking fine. On Monday she showed flu-like symptoms like high temperature and sore throat which we treated with ice packs etc. and since then her temperature wasn’t much above normal. But she was getting weaker and couldn’t walk to the loo. We thought it was a mini-stroke and called the ambulance.

On admission they always test for Covid and she was positive. CAT scans showed no brain change. So all the weakness must be due to Covid. She is in ICU and looks stable. I have no symptoms as yet, have had a test (results in 48 hours), and am self-isolating.

On checking all the people we have been in contact with - fairly few - I found that one of the house cleaners has covid as well. They were here last Tuesday and we tried to stay in different rooms from them. Not too well, apparently. Wife is stable.

assfly wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:28 am My test came back negative, as has most of my office so far. Thankfully everyone has been quite good about wearing of masks.