Sards wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:56 am Completely missed the Friday match due to commitments. Love the Rythm in the Stormers backline. Looks like the Province of old.
Must give Dobson credit. If he can stop the scrumhalf box kicking. Vokket.You have finally found a flyhalf ouboet. That is the difference. Not Dobson or Jake White.OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:04 amSards wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:56 am Completely missed the Friday match due to commitments. Love the Rythm in the Stormers backline. Looks like the Province of old.
Dobson and Jake White planned well ahead, life without Springbokke.
I agree.Sards wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:38 amYou have finally found a flyhalf ouboet. That is the difference. Not Dobson or Jake White.OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:04 amSards wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:56 am Completely missed the Friday match due to commitments. Love the Rythm in the Stormers backline. Looks like the Province of old.
Dobson and Jake White planned well ahead, life without Springbokke.
Here we go again.Sards wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:38 amYou have finally found a flyhalf ouboet. That is the difference. Not Dobson or Jake White.OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:04 amSards wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:56 am Completely missed the Friday match due to commitments. Love the Rythm in the Stormers backline. Looks like the Province of old.
Dobson and Jake White planned well ahead, life without Springbokke.
Like Kolisi?Sards wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:05 am I see Edwin van der Merwe is going to the Lions.
Seems players use the Stormers to get noticed and bought by other unions...
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The Lions ffs....they are more attractive than playing at the Stormers....wtf
Could this be a knockon of Salarygate
Flyhalf problems well and truly solved. You have to go back to the period where there was so much turmoil in this position. It cost the Stormers dearly. Where us other Supporters were laughing at how kak they were. Now all of a sudden the backline is very exciting to watch. Ok that's going to change again with Edwilll ducking to the Lions. But its suddenly a talking point in the Stormers. Let's be honest. Before the Stormers got a decent Flyhalf all we ever expected from the Stormers was a game it would be scrum penalties and rolling mauls ad nauseum. Now they are a side with a backline........????Chilli wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:54 amI agree.
With Abner and "Slayer" Swiel the Stormers have 2 very capable 10's while Von Wolhuter is injured.
The Cell C Sharks’ bonus point win over the Emirates Lions on Saturday has ensured that the quest to establish the teams that will square off in the Rainbow Cup final will be carried over into an exciting deciding round of the league phase both sides of the equator.
But while the Sharks do have a chance, the nuts and bolts would suggest there is a far more clear favourite in Rainbow Cup SA than there is in the northern stream of the competition, where there are three teams with a realistic chance of making the grand final set for Treviso on 19 June. Whereas the Bulls just have to ensure they pick up a bonus point in the appetising South African decider in Durban this coming weekend in order to book their flight to Italy, north of the equator there are still three teams vying for a place in the final.
And with one round to go, it is now Glasgow Warriors who top the northern log following a narrow win over Leinster that finally extinguishes any hope that the pre-tournament favourites might have had of contesting the final.
But while the Warriors have replaced Benetton in pole position in Europe, the fine-print shows that they are still rank underdogs to make the final on account of the fact that they have completed their fixtures. And their lead is only a solitary point over second placed Benetton and four points ahead of Munster.
Munster, who did not play this weekend, have a vastly superior points differential in comparison to Glasgow, so they just have to win their away game against Zebre in Parma on Friday night if they want to prevail in any count-out with the Scottish team. Their fate is not in their hands, however, as even if they do give their South African coach Johan van Graan what he is looking for by thumping Zebre, Munster will then have an anxious wait until Saturday night, when Benetton visit the Ospreys.
Should Benetton win that game, and it doesn’t matter by what score, then they will have their highly coveted place in the grand final, which is to be played at their home stadium. With their coach Kieran Crowley leaving to take over the head coaching duties at Italy after this, the Benetton players will go to Wales in a supremely motivated mood.
Even a losing bonus point probably won’t be enough though for Benetton as they too suffer in comparison to Munster when it comes to points differential.
But Van Graan’s team doesn’t have its fate in its own hands like his former team, the Bulls, do in the South African section. The Bulls moved into prime position with an exciting come-from-behind last gasp win over the the Stormers. The Bulls have consistently shown their championship qualities since returning from lockdown and if they do so again at King’s Park, that will be enough for them.
Still, the Sharks have thrown a potential spanner in the works by picking up a try scoring bonus point in beating the Lions in Johannesburg. Had they not done that, Bulls coach Jake White might have been in position to rest some key players for the Durban trip in preparation for the final. Now he has to tread very carefully and he will know only too well just how dangerous the Sharks can be on their home field.
The equation though is a fairly simple one and for the Bulls the aim is a basic one too - they go to the final if they prevent the Sharks from scoring four tries, and even if they do concede four tries and lose, they still go to the final if they themselves pick up any kind of bonus point. Knowing White though they will be going all out for the win.
Although they probably realise they are still rank outsiders to make the final, and really needed a bonus point to make it harder for Munster, the Glasgow Warriors will feel that if this does turn out to be the end of their season, a win over Leinster at their home ground of Scotstoun was the right way to sound off.
In the other match that mattered in terms of who tops the final log, the Ospreys had their dreams of making the Treviso decider ended by Connacht in Galway.
A free-scoring 48-minute first half ended with Connacht seven points clear, thanks to tries from Shane Delahunt, Bundee Aki, Ultan Dillane and Peter Sullivan. Akee was in outstanding form ahead of the British and Irish Lions tour.
Ospreys recovered from captain Rhys Webb’s sin-binning to cross three times - twice through hooker Sam Parry - and their impressive scrum also landed Connacht prop Dominic Robertson-McCoy in the bin. However, there were no more scoring moments after the game as the Ospreys fell out of contention.
In Edinburgh there was nothing but pride riding on the repeat of the 2019/2020 PRO14 semifinal at the same Murrayfield venue but it nonetheless provided an exciting game and an almost identical finish to that memorable play-off game less than a year ago. Once again it was Ulster who won at the death, once again it was through a penalty kick, but before that the two teams shared 10 tries between them as they provided proof of the watchability of summer rugby in the UK.
No, the top team play the next weekend against the Northern competition team in the final. The same weekend the CC starts.Sards wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 12:16 pm Bulls 20
Sharks 16
Stormers 13
Lions 8
So literally the Sharks need to beat the Bulls with a bonus point and deny them a point to get to play the Lions.
Stormers play Sharks or Bulls either way.
Lions will need to play out their skins.
So literally its between the Sharks and Bulls....okOomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 12:21 pmNo, the top team play the next weekend against the Northern competition team in the final. The same weekend the CC starts.Sards wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 12:16 pm Bulls 20
Sharks 16
Stormers 13
Lions 8
So literally the Sharks need to beat the Bulls with a bonus point and deny them a point to get to play the Lions.
Stormers play Sharks or Bulls either way.
Lions will need to play out their skins.
If the $harks do win it, will it be a slightly less dreadful tournament?assfly wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:32 am When I look back at this dreadful tournament, I'll remember the South African media furiously wanking over the Bulls and Stormers, and telling us week after week how shit the Sharks are. Yet here we are with an opportunity to win the damn thing
Not really, for me. I know I have moaned a lot about it on here, and obviously the pandemic has not helped things, but I still think the standard has been very poor and we could be in for a shock come the first game against the Lions.Chilli wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:40 am If the $harks do win it, will it be a slightly less dreadful tournament?
Ja....but its always been like that....Stormers getting all the attention and hype and the Sharks and Bulls quietly going about the business....assfly wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:32 am When I look back at this dreadful tournament, I'll remember the South African media furiously wanking over the Bulls and Stormers, and telling us week after week how shit the Sharks are. Yet here we are with an opportunity to win the damn thing
We have plenty of quality to field a decent team......assfly wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:55 amNot really, for me. I know I have moaned a lot about it on here, and obviously the pandemic has not helped things, but I still think the standard has been very poor and we could be in for a shock come the first game against the Lions.Chilli wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:40 am If the $harks do win it, will it be a slightly less dreadful tournament?
I agree, and I think Rassie has picked a great squad. My concern is that we're a bit off the pace. This weekend the standard was better, but this Lions squad have been playing good rugby since September and they all have several internationals behind them.
Its been a very long time since you lot have been in a favorable position...I feel for you....I would hate having to be part of the second tier year in and year out.
Lad, you have a chance to maybe win the 4th local comp in about 9 months. Well done on that, I mean it, well done.Sards wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:12 amIts been a very long time since you lot have been in a favorable position...I feel for you....I would hate having to be part of the second tier year in and year out.
At least us Sharkies are a modest bunch.......
I feel you boet...stay strong...there is always next yearhandyman wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:16 amLad, you have a chance to maybe win the 4th local comp in about 9 months. Well done on that, I mean it, well done.Sards wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:12 amIts been a very long time since you lot have been in a favorable position...I feel for you....I would hate having to be part of the second tier year in and year out.
At least us Sharkies are a modest bunch.......
For me, this year is all about the Lions. I just cannot see us in a decade looking back at 2021 and thinking about the saarks losing to the bulls again. It will all be about the Lions tour.
I know you are trying to stay relevant, but it's not working.
Boet, a flash in the pan means nothing. Even an old man can get it up every now and again. What matters is sustained performance over decades and centuries.Sards wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:18 amI feel you boet...stay strong...there is always next yearhandyman wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:16 amLad, you have a chance to maybe win the 4th local comp in about 9 months. Well done on that, I mean it, well done.Sards wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:12 am
Its been a very long time since you lot have been in a favorable position...I feel for you....I would hate having to be part of the second tier year in and year out.
At least us Sharkies are a modest bunch.......
For me, this year is all about the Lions. I just cannot see us in a decade looking back at 2021 and thinking about the saarks losing to the bulls again. It will all be about the Lions tour.
I know you are trying to stay relevant, but it's not working.
Been seeing that for a decade.....peace brother....stay safehandyman wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:31 amBoet, a flash in the pan means nothing. Even an old man can get it up every now and again. What matters is sustained performance over decades and centuries.Sards wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:18 amI feel you boet...stay strong...there is always next yearhandyman wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:16 am
Lad, you have a chance to maybe win the 4th local comp in about 9 months. Well done on that, I mean it, well done.
For me, this year is all about the Lions. I just cannot see us in a decade looking back at 2021 and thinking about the saarks losing to the bulls again. It will all be about the Lions tour.
I know you are trying to stay relevant, but it's not working.
Team Number of wins Notes Most recent
Western Province 34 Four shared 2017
Northern Transvaal/Blue Bulls 24 Four shared 2020/21
Transvaal/Gauteng Lions/Golden Lions 11 One shared 2015
Natal/Sharks 8 2018
Orange Free State/Free State Cheetahs 6 One shared 2019
Griqualand West/Griquas 3 1970
Border/Border Bulldogs 2 Two shared 1934
Same to you, my man. Elite posters for lifeSards wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:04 amBeen seeing that for a decade.....peace brother....stay safehandyman wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:31 amBoet, a flash in the pan means nothing. Even an old man can get it up every now and again. What matters is sustained performance over decades and centuries.
Team Number of wins Notes Most recent
Western Province 34 Four shared 2017
Northern Transvaal/Blue Bulls 24 Four shared 2020/21
Transvaal/Gauteng Lions/Golden Lions 11 One shared 2015
Natal/Sharks 8 2018
Orange Free State/Free State Cheetahs 6 One shared 2019
Griqualand West/Griquas 3 1970
Border/Border Bulldogs 2 Two shared 1934
Stormers have no chance of making the final. Sharks do. That's all that matters...OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:52 am Sards you do realize its only the final round of matches not a final for SA Teams. Sharks can still end 3rd on the SA log. The final is the week later in Italy.
Is this correct?Sards wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:38 amStormers have no chance of making the final. Sharks do. That's all that matters...OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:52 am Sards you do realize its only the final round of matches not a final for SA Teams. Sharks can still end 3rd on the SA log. The final is the week later in Italy.
Yes. Bulls only need 1 bonus point to play in the final.sorCrer wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:16 amIs this correct?Sards wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:38 amStormers have no chance of making the final. Sharks do. That's all that matters...OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:52 am Sards you do realize its only the final round of matches not a final for SA Teams. Sharks can still end 3rd on the SA log. The final is the week later in Italy.
Jake have been pretty wise using his backup players.The Bulls currently top the standings on 20 points, with the Sharks second on 16. In order to pip the men from Pretoria to the post, the Durbanites need a clear bonus point win, while not allowing the Bulls to score four tries or come within seven points of them.
A four point win won't be enough for the Sharks as the Bulls have a significantly better points differential (+54 compared to the -14 of the Sharks).
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:35 am Yes. Bulls only need 1 bonus point to play in the final.
Bulle it is. We had them against the ropes while they put 40 up against the Sharks at the Bull Ring.sorCrer wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:12 pmOomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:35 am Yes. Bulls only need 1 bonus point to play in the final.
In that case Oom, you know what to do:
'Kiss n kant' ...end dis nie fokken stormers nie.
Cmaan. Curwin. He's your boy. Support with your head. Not your heartOomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:49 pmBulle it is. We had them against the ropes while they put 40 up against the Sharks at the Bull Ring.sorCrer wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:12 pmOomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:35 am Yes. Bulls only need 1 bonus point to play in the final.
In that case Oom, you know what to do:
'Kiss n kant' ...end dis nie fokken stormers nie.
NEE TOE NIE. Bokke will be available for this matches.Sards wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:30 pm So all boks are to be withdrawn from any further games and Union games vs the BILs
Explain please.Cartman wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:29 pm Ja Sharks and finals....
For the good of SA rugby the bulls must win
Coetzee and van Staden still to deal with. Ridiculous depth.Chilli wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:46 am No Duanne
No Louw
https://www.news24.com/sport/rugby/rain ... s-20210608
Sharks by 30!
Bulls have never struggled fielding quality loose forwards. Jake is just following a decades-old Pretoria template.assfly wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:20 amCoetzee and van Staden still to deal with. Ridiculous depth.Chilli wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:46 am No Duanne
No Louw
https://www.news24.com/sport/rugby/rain ... s-20210608
Sharks by 30!
