2021 South African Preparation Series

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Only git to watch highlights. Fassi is an absolute race horse. The line he runs are great. Has a massive boot on him too. I think he is ready for the Boks.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:35 pm
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Chilli wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:58 pm

Word.
Honestly I am feeling sorry for ouboet. Its really sad watching them deteriorate into a clown college. So there was and attempted uprising and it got shot down. Meltze reckons he has the support of the clubs. Its a never ending vokaround and supporters are tube stil
Feel sorry for me?

Go f uck yourself
I do. You are a real rugby man. It can't be easy to sit back and watch this shit going down
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Lemoentjie wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:08 pm Good win for Cheetahs. Stormers don't look the same without some of their most influential players (unsurprisingly).
There were parts of their game which looked better though. Von Wolhuter certainly looked better than any 10 we have in the last 2 years . Scrum is still good.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:36 pm Only git to watch highlights. Fassi is an absolute race horse. The line he runs are great. Has a massive boot on him too. I think he is ready for the Boks.
Once he learns how to catch and hold onto the ball.
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I see all the big boys won on the first weekend, as expected.

EP reinforcing my position on them, they have no right to even be playing in this competition. They should accept their position as a feeder union until they can sort their shit out.
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assfly wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:26 am I see all the big boys won on the first weekend, as expected.

EP reinforcing my position on them, they have no right to even be playing in this competition. They should accept their position as a feeder union until they can sort their shit out.
Yeah, all the big teams won. I feel kinda sorry for the plucky losers.

The EP should just be withdrawn from the competition, I see that Radebe is out for the season with a broken hand.
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assfly wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:26 am I see all the big boys won on the first weekend, as expected.

EP reinforcing my position on them, they have no right to even be playing in this competition. They should accept their position as a feeder union until they can sort their shit out.
Its just embarrassing for the small boys....although the Pumas always seem to be competitive at least . We have to accept EP needs to be in the system.
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Next round midweek

Tuesday 9 March

16h45: Toyota Cheetahs v Cell C Sharks

19h00: NNC Pumas v Vodacom Bulls

Wednesday 10 March

16h45: Eastern Province v Lions

19h00: Tafel Lager Griquas v DHL Stormers

Expect the top players of the top franchises only start practice this week.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:43 am Next round midweek

Tuesday 9 March

16h45: Toyota Cheetahs v Cell C Sharks

19h00: NNC Pumas v Vodacom Bulls

Wednesday 10 March

16h45: Eastern Province v Lions

19h00: Tafel Lager Griquas v DHL Stormers

Expect the top players of the top franchises only start practice this week.
Cheetahs should be a good outing for the Sharks
Bulls should rip the Pumas
Lions will embarrass EP
Should be a tight one WP and Griquas
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Loved how the referees forced the players to speed the play up. Take them out of their comfort zone.
Springboks, Stormers and WP supporter.
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handyman wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:06 am Loved how the referees forced the players to speed the play up. Take them out of their comfort zone.
Ja, it was refreshing to hear.

Except for Rasta who I can't stand.
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I think refs really need to take the initiative. If a 9 is slow at the back of the ruck, then the ref can pick up the ball in box kick it themselves.
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assfly wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:32 am I think refs really need to take the initiative. If a 9 is slow at the back of the ruck, then the ref can pick up the ball in box kick it themselves.
I have been watching the Blues vs HurriKane. Both Moari nr 9 had blond hair like Faf and try to box kick like him. 6 Nations is also vrot with this box kick kak. Its a sickness in all rugby now. Wish they can ban it from rugby.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:38 am I have been watching the Blues vs HurriKane. Both Moari nr 9 had blond hair like Faf and try to box kick like him. 6 Nations is also vrot with this box kick kak. Its a sickness in all rugby now. Wish they can ban it from rugby.
Wales were very slow at the back of the ruck, but at least when they kick they land it in the right stop and the contest is excellent. That's the sort of box kick I don't mind.
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assfly wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:43 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:38 am I have been watching the Blues vs HurriKane. Both Moari nr 9 had blond hair like Faf and try to box kick like him. 6 Nations is also vrot with this box kick kak. Its a sickness in all rugby now. Wish they can ban it from rugby.
Wales were very slow at the back of the ruck, but at least when they kick they land it in the right stop and the contest is excellent. That's the sort of box kick I don't mind.
Nope, they all suck.
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They're a blight on the game. Personally I would only allow them between 5 metre line and the tryline, when a team is really pinned back.

The law must be like 'the ball must be passed out of a ruck before it can be kicked'.
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Geez lads. We won a world cup using box kicks.

Of course I'd prefer to see us running more, but the way defence is ruling games it's going to take something else to get teams to keep the ball more when not in the opposition half.
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Sandstorm wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:44 am
assfly wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:43 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:38 am I have been watching the Blues vs HurriKane. Both Moari nr 9 had blond hair like Faf and try to box kick like him. 6 Nations is also vrot with this box kick kak. Its a sickness in all rugby now. Wish they can ban it from rugby.
Wales were very slow at the back of the ruck, but at least when they kick they land it in the right stop and the contest is excellent. That's the sort of box kick I don't mind.
Nope, they all suck.
Despite WP loss at least they run it much more. The Sharks looks totally different at the back with a slick passing 10.
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assfly wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:34 am Geez lads. We won a world cup using box kicks.

Of course I'd prefer to see us running more, but the way defence is ruling games it's going to take something else to get teams to keep the ball more when not in the opposition half.
We won the final playing with ball in hand.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:36 am We won the final playing with ball in hand.
Incorrect.

England had more runs with the ball, more defenders beaten, more passes, more offloads, more territory and more possession.

We kicked the ball 26 times, more than England.

We won that game with much less ball in hand than England.
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assfly wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:41 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:36 am We won the final playing with ball in hand.
Incorrect.

England had more runs with the ball, more defenders beaten, more passes, more offloads, more territory and more possession.

We kicked the ball 26 times, more than England.

We won that game with much less ball in hand than England.
I am not comparing to England or any other country, but to our own gameplan in the tournament. Surely we play a different gameplan (less box kicking) in the final comparing to the semi final vs Wales or the quarter final vs Japan.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:49 am I am not comparing to England or any other country, but to our own gameplan in the tournament. Surely we play a different gameplan (less box kicking) in the final comparing to the semi final vs Wales or the quarter final vs Japan.
Compared to the sem-final, I agree.

The point I'm making is that we can't just rule-out the box kick. If it's well executed it can get you 20/30m upfield and keep possession.

Besides that, who the vok knows who is going to be our 10 against the Lions; we may need our 9 to take the load.
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assfly wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:53 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:49 am I am not comparing to England or any other country, but to our own gameplan in the tournament. Surely we play a different gameplan (less box kicking) in the final comparing to the semi final vs Wales or the quarter final vs Japan.
Compared to the sem-final, I agree.

The point I'm making is that we can't just rule-out the box kick. If it's well executed it can get you 20/30m upfield and keep possession.

Besides that, who the vok knows who is going to be our 10 against the Lions; we may need our 9 to take the load.
Curwin Bosch.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:35 am
Sandstorm wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:44 am
assfly wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:43 am

Wales were very slow at the back of the ruck, but at least when they kick they land it in the right stop and the contest is excellent. That's the sort of box kick I don't mind.
Nope, they all suck.
Despite WP loss at least they run it much more. The Sharks looks totally different at the back with a slick passing 10.
JA.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:35 am
Sandstorm wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:44 am
assfly wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:43 am

Wales were very slow at the back of the ruck, but at least when they kick they land it in the right stop and the contest is excellent. That's the sort of box kick I don't mind.
Nope, they all suck.
Despite WP loss at least they run it much more. The Sharks looks totally different at the back with a slick passing 10.
Oh vok yes....Bosch is the cause and effect of no passing ...vok him....rather our RWC winning flyhalf Willemse who side steps for fun...from one end of the field to the other
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Sards wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:55 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:35 am
Sandstorm wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:44 am

Nope, they all suck.
Despite WP loss at least they run it much more. The Sharks looks totally different at the back with a slick passing 10.
Oh vok yes....Bosch is the cause and effect of no passing ...vok him....rather our RWC winning flyhalf Willemse who side steps for fun...from one end of the field to the other
It take to long this morning to get you to bite. :oops:
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All kicking is part of the game and an important tool. If you're not getting over the gain line on attack and the only movement you get is lateral, you kick. The type of kick depends on were you are on the pitch and how much pressure the opposition puts you under.
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assfly wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:53 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:49 am I am not comparing to England or any other country, but to our own gameplan in the tournament. Surely we play a different gameplan (less box kicking) in the final comparing to the semi final vs Wales or the quarter final vs Japan.
Compared to the sem-final, I agree.

The point I'm making is that we can't just rule-out the box kick. If it's well executed it can get you 20/30m upfield and keep possession.

Besides that, who the vok knows who is going to be our 10 against the Lions; we may need our 9 to take the load.
Ok, but then the Law should change that the scrummy can't dribble the ball back to a place in the ruck where he likes it. He has to use his hands only.

This business of dribbling it back passed the feet of the centipede for 5-7 secs is nonsense!
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Sandstorm wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:09 am Ok, but then the Law should change that the scrummy can't dribble the ball back to a place in the ruck where he likes it. He has to use his hands only.

This business of dribbling it back passed the feet of the centipede for 5-7 secs is nonsense!
Oh ja, I totally agree. They're dreadful.

In fact, if they get rid of that then 9s will be forced to pass the ball more as they won't have the comfort of a 10m gap.
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Stormers: 15 Sergeal Petersen, 14 Sihle Njezula, 13 Ruhan Nel, 12 Cornel Smit, 11 Leolin Zas, 10 Kade Wolhuter, 9 Godlen Masimla, 8 Juarno Augustus, 7 Ben-Jason Dixon, 6 Marcel Theunissen, 5 Chris van Zyl (captain), 4 David Meihuizen, 3 Neethling Fouche, 2 Siyabonga Ntubeni, 1 Alistair Vermaak.
Replacements – from: 16 Chad Solomon, 17 Kwenzo Blose, 18 Lee-Marvin Mazibuko, 19 Evan Roos, 20 Ernst van Rhyn, 21 Paul de Wet, 22 Chris Schreuder, 23 Edwill van der Merwe, 24 Sazi Sandi, 25 Abner van Reenen.
I am happy to see them having faith in Von Wolhuter.
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Chilli wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:59 am
Stormers: 15 Sergeal Petersen, 14 Sihle Njezula, 13 Ruhan Nel, 12 Cornel Smit, 11 Leolin Zas, 10 Kade Wolhuter, 9 Godlen Masimla, 8 Juarno Augustus, 7 Ben-Jason Dixon, 6 Marcel Theunissen, 5 Chris van Zyl (captain), 4 David Meihuizen, 3 Neethling Fouche, 2 Siyabonga Ntubeni, 1 Alistair Vermaak.
Replacements – from: 16 Chad Solomon, 17 Kwenzo Blose, 18 Lee-Marvin Mazibuko, 19 Evan Roos, 20 Ernst van Rhyn, 21 Paul de Wet, 22 Chris Schreuder, 23 Edwill van der Merwe, 24 Sazi Sandi, 25 Abner van Reenen.
I am happy to see them having faith in Von Wolhuter.
Yep and Evan Roos fresh from the Sharks onto the bench. Chris Schreuder is also a very talented 10 from Grey College.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:51 pm
Chilli wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:59 am
Stormers: 15 Sergeal Petersen, 14 Sihle Njezula, 13 Ruhan Nel, 12 Cornel Smit, 11 Leolin Zas, 10 Kade Wolhuter, 9 Godlen Masimla, 8 Juarno Augustus, 7 Ben-Jason Dixon, 6 Marcel Theunissen, 5 Chris van Zyl (captain), 4 David Meihuizen, 3 Neethling Fouche, 2 Siyabonga Ntubeni, 1 Alistair Vermaak.
Replacements – from: 16 Chad Solomon, 17 Kwenzo Blose, 18 Lee-Marvin Mazibuko, 19 Evan Roos, 20 Ernst van Rhyn, 21 Paul de Wet, 22 Chris Schreuder, 23 Edwill van der Merwe, 24 Sazi Sandi, 25 Abner van Reenen.
I am happy to see them having faith in Von Wolhuter.
Yep and Evan Roos fresh from the Sharks onto the bench. Chris Schreuder is also a very talented 10 from Grey College.
I really hope that this competition exposes these talented young 10's to us the viewers and that they do well and prove that we don't only produce boring kicking 10's like Bosch, Steyn and Willemse.

It is a pity that they were not used in the CC.
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Schreuder study actuary at Maties and don't had much time for rugby. Probably more time now.
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Abner van Reenen is also very talented. Very young still. Good to see WP give them opportunities.
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I am just not feeling this tournament.

It's a huge step down from Superrugby which is far more accurate and intense. I really miss the Kiwis and Argies...and the Aussies of the Larkham era
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Sards wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:35 pm I am just not feeling this tournament.

It's a huge step down from Superrugby which is far more accurate and intense. I really miss the Kiwis and Argies...and the Aussies of the Larkham era
Lame
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Sandstorm wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:15 pm
Sards wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:35 pm I am just not feeling this tournament.

It's a huge step down from Superrugby which is far more accurate and intense. I really miss the Kiwis and Argies...and the Aussies of the Larkham era
Lame

That's the word I was looking for.
No seriously. You have to be rather desperate to get excited about this kak. Rather spend the day watching the lighty play cricket. Those personal battles of keeping it tight and taking wickets during the fielding and watching him get stressed out when his team is under the cosh from outstanding bowling from the opposition and then going in and either making it or failing, are more interesting.
And pn Friday afternoon I would rather take the kids boogie boarding than watch amateurs acting like professionals
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Sards wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:47 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:15 pm
Sards wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:35 pm I am just not feeling this tournament.

It's a huge step down from Superrugby which is far more accurate and intense. I really miss the Kiwis and Argies...and the Aussies of the Larkham era
Lame

That's the word I was looking for.
No seriously. You have to be rather desperate to get excited about this kak. Rather spend the day watching the lighty play cricket. Those personal battles of keeping it tight and taking wickets during the fielding and watching him get stressed out when his team is under the cosh from outstanding bowling from the opposition and then going in and either making it or failing, are more interesting.
And pn Friday afternoon I would rather take the kids boogie boarding than watch amateurs acting like professionals
Well duh. If you don’t find spending time with your kids more interesting than watching Rugby on TV, you are a bad parent.
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Chilli wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:59 am
Stormers: 15 Sergeal Petersen, 14 Sihle Njezula, 13 Ruhan Nel, 12 Cornel Smit, 11 Leolin Zas, 10 Kade Wolhuter, 9 Godlen Masimla, 8 Juarno Augustus, 7 Ben-Jason Dixon, 6 Marcel Theunissen, 5 Chris van Zyl (captain), 4 David Meihuizen, 3 Neethling Fouche, 2 Siyabonga Ntubeni, 1 Alistair Vermaak.
Replacements – from: 16 Chad Solomon, 17 Kwenzo Blose, 18 Lee-Marvin Mazibuko, 19 Evan Roos, 20 Ernst van Rhyn, 21 Paul de Wet, 22 Chris Schreuder, 23 Edwill van der Merwe, 24 Sazi Sandi, 25 Abner van Reenen.
I am happy to see them having faith in Von Wolhuter.
Griquas: 15 Masixole Banda, 14 Ederies Arendse, 13 Michal Haznar, 12 Andre Swarts, 11 Eduan Keyter, 10 George Whitehead (captain), 9 Stefan Ungerer, 8 Siba Qoma, 7 Stefan Willemse, 6 Carl Els, 5 Cameron Lindsay, 4 Mzwanele Zito, 3 John-Roy Jenkinson, 2 Alandre van Rooyen, 1 Nqobisizwe Mxoli.
Replacements – from: 16 Hendrick Luus, 17 Andrew Beerwinkel, 18 Tijde Visser, 19 Ewan Coetzee, 20 Jo-Hanko de Villiers, 21 Ashlon Davids, 22 Tinus de Beer, 23 Daniel Kasende, 24 Bandisa Ndlovu, 25 Raegan Oranje, 26 Harlon Klaasen.
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Stormers by 53!
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