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ASMO wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 10:30 am Never realised there was so many old fuckers on here. We should organise a London spiteful cabal with Sanatogen cocktails all round.

Guy Smiley wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 7:46 am
Ah...

fear of technology

ASMO wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 10:30 am Never realised there was so many old fuckers on here. We should organise a London spiteful cabal with Sanatogen cocktails all round.

mat the expat wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:25 am

Guy Smiley wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 7:46 am
Ah...

fear of technology

I support(ed) manufuring technology.......none of the "fear" is unfounded

Anyway, It's the first time I've owned an automatic so I had to research it. I'm sure when you moved from Steam engines to ICE, you had to do a bit of research also :

Interesting news re the Tesla recall......I mean, technology......

Guy Smiley wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:05 am

mat the expat wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:25 am

Guy Smiley wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 7:46 am
Ah...

fear of technology

I support(ed) manufuring technology.......none of the "fear" is unfounded

Anyway, It's the first time I've owned an automatic so I had to research it. I'm sure when you moved from Steam engines to ICE, you had to do a bit of research also :

Interesting news re the Tesla recall......I mean, technology......

My EV has an electric park brake... no handbrake turn capacity.

mat the expat wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:30 am Does it clamp the discs?

We were looking at EVs but thanks that fuckwitt Scomo, the market here is lagging by 2 years at least. Nothing decent for the $$$.

Guy Smiley wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:17 am

mat the expat wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:30 am Does it clamp the discs?

We were looking at EVs but thanks that fuckwitt Scomo, the market here is lagging by 2 years at least. Nothing decent for the $$$.

Yeah, it does. There's an audible clunk moving off as they release. There's also a Park function within the driveline / transmission.

We have a new government here looking to rival anything ScoMo and Abbott managed and they're hell bent on repealing anything the previous Labour government did. The generous rebate scheme on EVs under 80K is scrapped as of December 31. They're also repealing Fair Pay Agreements and reinstating a law that allows employers to summarily sack someone with no cause given in the first 90 days of employment... and backdating a repeal on the tax landlords can claim on interest costs for property loans... to the tune of several billion dollars. In an economic crisis.

Don't waste time and energy on pipe dreams of NZ being some sort of utopia. It's rapidly becoming more of a dystopian nightmare.

Kiwias wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:39 am Sneaking up (or rather heading for it at rocket-like speed) on my 70th and find that 15 minutes of yoga every morning helps my body stay in reasonably good knick.

Gumboot wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:57 am Realising that although I hitch-hiked a lot in my teens and twenties, nobody in their right mind would do it now.

OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:15 amThe best thing about growing old is to realize and make peace with the fact that you are not the same as a few years earlier. What you lost in physicality you gain in brains with experience.

Begbie wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:46 am I'd rather sit in a quiet pub on my own with a book than go out with mates these days. A perfect Friday night for me now is sitting in my dimly lit living room with a dram/glass of red and a stack of records to listen to. I'm only early 40's.

weegie01 wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:06 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:15 amThe best thing about growing old is to realize and make peace with the fact that you are not the same as a few years earlier. What you lost in physicality you gain in brains with experience.

I don't know if it is a good thing, but there is a process of railing against the fact that you can no longer do what you could, then findong peace and accepting it and asking for help when appropriate (eg lifting heavt things), using aids (eg walking poles on rough ground) etc that allow you to continue with as much as you can.

Sandstorm wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:30 am

Begbie wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:46 am I'd rather sit in a quiet pub on my own with a book than go out with mates these days. A perfect Friday night for me now is sitting in my dimly lit living room with a dram/glass of red and a stack of records to listen to. I'm only early 40's.

I'm 10 years older than you and also enjoy a quiet Friday at home after work. But I still like to go out on Saturday with mates.....

dpedin wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:58 pm

Sandstorm wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:30 am

Begbie wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:46 am I'd rather sit in a quiet pub on my own with a book than go out with mates these days. A perfect Friday night for me now is sitting in my dimly lit living room with a dram/glass of red and a stack of records to listen to. I'm only early 40's.

I'm 10 years older than you and also enjoy a quiet Friday at home after work. But I still like to go out on Saturday with mates.....

I quite enjoy a few pints with my mates but my main worry is will I get home on the bus before I piss myself! It has been touch and go a few times.

Hal Jordan wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:38 pm Although then you go to the office Christmas party, come home, drink more beer, black out and wake up at 4 a.m. , fully clothed on your bed. Still in your coat.

TB63 wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:20 pm

Hal Jordan wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:38 pm Although then you go to the office Christmas party, come home, drink more beer, black out and wake up at 4 a.m. , fully clothed on your bed. Still in your coat.

Add, half eaten kebab stuck to side of your face where the pillow should be and I'll share your pain..

Hal Jordan wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:54 pm

TB63 wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:20 pm

Hal Jordan wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:38 pm Although then you go to the office Christmas party, come home, drink more beer, black out and wake up at 4 a.m. , fully clothed on your bed. Still in your coat.

Add, half eaten kebab stuck to side of your face where the pillow should be and I'll share your pain..

Did you mistake a chair for the toilet bowl as well?

TB63 wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:45 pm Trying to lay amtico flooring, cutting. Shaping, cleaning the floor..

I've spent more hours on my knees today than a Catholic priest behind a choirboy..

I'm fucking aching...

dpedin wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:13 am I take a Tramadol painkiller tablet prophylactically before I play golf to help with the arthritic knee pain. Only one and I never take them at any other time as I am very aware they can be addictive plus any good they have can wear off if over used. My GP who prescribed them for me was similar age and also a golfer. He was very interested with how I was doing on them and in particular how if my putting had improved, apparently they have a 'calming' effect on the body? I am not sure I noticed any difference, I am pretty laid back on the course. However my handicap has fallen considerably since taking them but I put that down to lessons I had.

Anyway my quandary now is that WADA are banning Tramadol from competitions from 1st January 2024 as they reckon it is a performance enhancing drug so do I still take one prior to my golf rounds and in particular when playing a competition round? Age doesn't come itself ...

dpedin wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:13 amI take a Tramadol painkiller tablet prophylactically before I play golf to help with the arthritic knee pain. Only one and I never take them at any other time as I am very aware they can be addictive plus any good they have can wear off if over used. My GP who prescribed them for me was similar age and also a golfer. He was very interested with how I was doing on them and in particular how if my putting had improved, apparently they have a 'calming' effect on the body? I am not sure I noticed any difference, I am pretty laid back on the course. However my handicap has fallen considerably since taking them but I put that down to lessons I had.

Anyway my quandary now is that WADA are banning Tramadol from competitions from 1st January 2024 as they reckon it is a performance enhancing drug so do I still take one prior to my golf rounds and in particular when playing a competition round? Age doesn't come itself ...

Gumboot wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:30 am

dpedin wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:13 amI take a Tramadol painkiller tablet prophylactically before I play golf to help with the arthritic knee pain. Only one and I never take them at any other time as I am very aware they can be addictive plus any good they have can wear off if over used. My GP who prescribed them for me was similar age and also a golfer. He was very interested with how I was doing on them and in particular how if my putting had improved, apparently they have a 'calming' effect on the body? I am not sure I noticed any difference, I am pretty laid back on the course. However my handicap has fallen considerably since taking them but I put that down to lessons I had.

Anyway my quandary now is that WADA are banning Tramadol from competitions from 1st January 2024 as they reckon it is a performance enhancing drug so do I still take one prior to my golf rounds and in particular when playing a competition round? Age doesn't come itself ...

If Tramadol has a calming effect and improves your handicap, isn't that the very definition of a performance enhancing drug?

Bullet wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:15 pm Few drinks in town today and agreed to play in annual new year charity match. 55 and done no exercise since lockdown.

Don't expect to be walking freely until feb

dpedin wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:13 am I take a Tramadol painkiller tablet prophylactically before I play golf to help with the arthritic knee pain. Only one and I never take them at any other time as I am very aware they can be addictive plus any good they have can wear off if over used. My GP who prescribed them for me was similar age and also a golfer. He was very interested with how I was doing on them and in particular how if my putting had improved, apparently they have a 'calming' effect on the body? I am not sure I noticed any difference, I am pretty laid back on the course. However my handicap has fallen considerably since taking them but I put that down to lessons I had.

Anyway my quandary now is that WADA are banning Tramadol from competitions from 1st January 2024 as they reckon it is a performance enhancing drug so do I still take one prior to my golf rounds and in particular when playing a competition round? Age doesn't come itself ...

dpedin wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:13 am I take a Tramadol painkiller tablet prophylactically before I play golf to help with the arthritic knee pain. Only one and I never take them at any other time as I am very aware they can be addictive plus any good they have can wear off if over used. My GP who prescribed them for me was similar age and also a golfer. He was very interested with how I was doing on them and in particular how if my putting had improved, apparently they have a 'calming' effect on the body? I am not sure I noticed any difference, I am pretty laid back on the course. However my handicap has fallen considerably since taking them but I put that down to lessons I had.

Anyway my quandary now is that WADA are banning Tramadol from competitions from 1st January 2024 as they reckon it is a performance enhancing drug so do I still take one prior to my golf rounds and in particular when playing a competition round? Age doesn't come itself ...

mat the expat wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:44 am

dpedin wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:13 am I take a Tramadol painkiller tablet prophylactically before I play golf to help with the arthritic knee pain. Only one and I never take them at any other time as I am very aware they can be addictive plus any good they have can wear off if over used. My GP who prescribed them for me was similar age and also a golfer. He was very interested with how I was doing on them and in particular how if my putting had improved, apparently they have a 'calming' effect on the body? I am not sure I noticed any difference, I am pretty laid back on the course. However my handicap has fallen considerably since taking them but I put that down to lessons I had.

Anyway my quandary now is that WADA are banning Tramadol from competitions from 1st January 2024 as they reckon it is a performance enhancing drug so do I still take one prior to my golf rounds and in particular when playing a competition round? Age doesn't come itself ...

Tramadol for general exercise? That's a bit hardcore from your doctor.

Anti-inflammatories are usually their go

Grandpa wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:36 pm

dpedin wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:13 am I take a Tramadol painkiller tablet prophylactically before I play golf to help with the arthritic knee pain. Only one and I never take them at any other time as I am very aware they can be addictive plus any good they have can wear off if over used. My GP who prescribed them for me was similar age and also a golfer. He was very interested with how I was doing on them and in particular how if my putting had improved, apparently they have a 'calming' effect on the body? I am not sure I noticed any difference, I am pretty laid back on the course. However my handicap has fallen considerably since taking them but I put that down to lessons I had.

Anyway my quandary now is that WADA are banning Tramadol from competitions from 1st January 2024 as they reckon it is a performance enhancing drug so do I still take one prior to my golf rounds and in particular when playing a competition round? Age doesn't come itself ...

I used to sell Tramadol back in the 90s when I was a Pharma Rep. I got addicted to Tramadol as I had free samples... took it for a muscle strain and then found I could run 10km a lot faster on it... it was hell coming off it. Heard a lot of horror stories from doctors on patients addicted to it as well... horrible drug...

Yr Alban wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:15 am

mat the expat wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:44 am

dpedin wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:13 am I take a Tramadol painkiller tablet prophylactically before I play golf to help with the arthritic knee pain. Only one and I never take them at any other time as I am very aware they can be addictive plus any good they have can wear off if over used. My GP who prescribed them for me was similar age and also a golfer. He was very interested with how I was doing on them and in particular how if my putting had improved, apparently they have a 'calming' effect on the body? I am not sure I noticed any difference, I am pretty laid back on the course. However my handicap has fallen considerably since taking them but I put that down to lessons I had.

Anyway my quandary now is that WADA are banning Tramadol from competitions from 1st January 2024 as they reckon it is a performance enhancing drug so do I still take one prior to my golf rounds and in particular when playing a competition round? Age doesn't come itself ...

Tramadol for general exercise? That's a bit hardcore from your doctor.

Anti-inflammatories are usually their go

Certainly what I’d prefer for knee pain. But you have to be careful with them in older people because of the increased risk of GI and renal side effects.

Slick wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:29 am

Grandpa wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:36 pm

dpedin wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:13 am I take a Tramadol painkiller tablet prophylactically before I play golf to help with the arthritic knee pain. Only one and I never take them at any other time as I am very aware they can be addictive plus any good they have can wear off if over used. My GP who prescribed them for me was similar age and also a golfer. He was very interested with how I was doing on them and in particular how if my putting had improved, apparently they have a 'calming' effect on the body? I am not sure I noticed any difference, I am pretty laid back on the course. However my handicap has fallen considerably since taking them but I put that down to lessons I had.

Anyway my quandary now is that WADA are banning Tramadol from competitions from 1st January 2024 as they reckon it is a performance enhancing drug so do I still take one prior to my golf rounds and in particular when playing a competition round? Age doesn't come itself ...

I used to sell Tramadol back in the 90s when I was a Pharma Rep. I got addicted to Tramadol as I had free samples... took it for a muscle strain and then found I could run 10km a lot faster on it... it was hell coming off it. Heard a lot of horror stories from doctors on patients addicted to it as well... horrible drug...

Jeezo.

dpedin wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:50 am

Yr Alban wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:15 am

mat the expat wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:44 am

Tramadol for general exercise? That's a bit hardcore from your doctor.

Anti-inflammatories are usually their go

Certainly what I’d prefer for knee pain. But you have to be careful with them in older people because of the increased risk of GI and renal side effects.

I had had septic arthritis in my left knee, most painful thing I have had, and was in hospital for 2 weeks, operated on twice to flush out infections, antibiotics for about 3 months and painkillers for same period. Lost over 2 stone in weight due to infection and knee wouldn't bend at all. Crutches and physio 3 times a week for 3 months. In hospital I was on OxyContin which was excellent for pain relief but scary as I knew it was highly addictive. When i got home the GP and I agreed a withdrawal strategy for coming off it and it took about 3-4 weeks of gradual wind down to get off it completely. I couldn't play golf for about 6 months and the GP was keen for me to get back to full exercise and thought Tramadol would be best help for golf. It has worked and I only take it when golfing ... and yes I have to admit it has helped my putting!

vball wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:45 am I read the Daily Telegraph mainly because I like their Puzzles.
Anyway, was looking through the Sports section and thought I would check the football scores. I know there was some Scottish games last night and although I am not a big football fan ( I used to go and watch Hearts play every week and was mightly chuffed when the beat Celtic at Parkhead last weekend), I still like to be aware of what is going on. So checking the football fixtures, I could not find any Scottish results from last night. In fact I could not find any Scottish results whatsoever. So I contact the online chat. After a some exchanges they said they only list the scores of matches they cover. I find this hard to believe as it lists all the English Prem to League 2 and some European games. Do they cover every single one of them I doubt it. Same goes for the App Version and the person said, it was the same for the Print version (anybody check this).

On my online version today, and in App, plenty of articles about Scotland, SNP tax grabs, A9, etc ... so they do do Scottish items.

Just grumpy about the lack of scores - same goes for Welsh and Irish football too. I just thought, not much effort in listing all scores.

I also read the Gruniad as well so I get both sides of the news and features. OK I admit it, I only go on to do some woke baiting. It is fabulous. You cast a fly and get a bite every single time. Usually fills my day until my posts get removed by the Admin.

Slick wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:27 am

dpedin wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:50 am

Yr Alban wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:15 am

Certainly what I’d prefer for knee pain. But you have to be careful with them in older people because of the increased risk of GI and renal side effects.

I had had septic arthritis in my left knee, most painful thing I have had, and was in hospital for 2 weeks, operated on twice to flush out infections, antibiotics for about 3 months and painkillers for same period. Lost over 2 stone in weight due to infection and knee wouldn't bend at all. Crutches and physio 3 times a week for 3 months. In hospital I was on OxyContin which was excellent for pain relief but scary as I knew it was highly addictive. When i got home the GP and I agreed a withdrawal strategy for coming off it and it took about 3-4 weeks of gradual wind down to get off it completely. I couldn't play golf for about 6 months and the GP was keen for me to get back to full exercise and thought Tramadol would be best help for golf. It has worked and I only take it when golfing ... and yes I have to admit it has helped my putting!

This sounds suspiciously like some media driven narrative before announcing your defection to LIV?