A place where escape goats go to play
https://www.notplanetrugby.com/
Interesting afrikaans article in our local newspaper.
Exactly this, each to their own. I have a Scottish dad, a French mum, born overseas, bought up all over the place, and played all my rugby in England (albeit for a Scottish club post school and uni). I have only ever considered myself Scottish and only ever dreamed of representing Scotland. Unfortunately, the closest I ever came was being signed up for Ally’s Tartan Army as an 8 year old.Yr Alban wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:20 pmYeah, you’re massively wrong on this.Ymx wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:22 pmBut they must know they are actually English. English accent, upbringing. They can’t be that stupidly brainwashed by their parents?sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:12 pm In my experience Celts in England tend to inculcate a very strong sense of identity in their offspring.
I've never met more fervent Welsh supporters than those whose connection to soggy land beyond the Severn is a solitary grandparent.
Not only that, when they visit Wales/Scotland trying to call themselves locals they would be laughed at, they’d only ever be called English by the locals. At most a plastic.
I was born in England and my parents didn’t move back to Scotland until I was 13. I’ve identified as Scottish my whole life, despite many people like yourself thinking they had a right to tell me who I am and where my roots are. I expect this doesn’t happen in NZ, as the nearest other country is thousands of miles away.
My uncle was born in Quetta, which is now in Pakistan. Nobody would seriously argue that this made him Pakistani, but exactly this logic is often applied to people who were born in the ‘wrong’ bit of the UK. It is so deeply embedded that there is a unit for premature babies in Rhyl which exists primarily because ‘Welsh babies born in England’ is emotive and politically unacceptable.
Due to work, both my kids ended up born in England and have grown up almost entirely in Wales. They have always identified as Scottish. You don’t get to tell them they’re not.