Ireland vs Argentina, Autumn Internationals 2024

[fishfoodie]

Well for once it's not us being dense, with the unnecessary foul

[petej]

HIA for the no.8?

[JM2K6]

Couple of extremely dodgy cleans here too, tbf

[Blackmac]

And that’s just fucking stupid by the argies.

He saw what Doris was at and decided to take matters into his own hands. Pointless.

[JM2K6]

Honestly, they're going to lose anyway but that's an incredible defensive set again.

[petej]

Couple of extremely dodgy cleans here too, tbf

Argie player should go down clutching their head on at least 1 of them.

[JM2K6]

And that’s just fucking stupid by the argies.

He saw what Doris was at and decided to take matters into his own hands. Pointless.

Doris wasn't interfering at all

[tc27]

Some great defence from Argentina again

[JM2K6]

Haha another bottle job on the yellow

There goes the hope that the 20 minute red would stop that shit

[Tichtheid]

I have to say, the Argentinian coaching staff have let themselves go, the used to have high quality knitwear on show, now it's trackies all round

[ScarfaceClaw]

He’s lucky. That could have gone to red easily.

[Tichtheid]

Haha another bottle job on the yellow

There goes the hope that the 20 minute red would stop that shit

I mean, what the actual fuck?

That's a clear a red as is possible

[Biffer]

Bealham incident vs Cumming incident is another example of how teams are reffed differently. Utter disgrace.

[Blackmac]

And that’s just fucking stupid by the argies.

He saw what Doris was at and decided to take matters into his own hands. Pointless.

Doris wasn't interfering at all

He was. He'd fallen off the contact onto his knees and instead of retreating back onside he stands up and either hangs around like a bad smell or slightly encroaches round the side. He does it every breakdown, just enough to sow a bit of doubt and or cut down the options for the scrum half.

[petej]

He saw what Doris was at and decided to take matters into his own hands. Pointless.

Doris wasn't interfering at all

He was. He'd fallen off the contact onto his knees and instead of retreating back onside he stands up and either hangs around like a bad smell or slightly encroaches round the side. He does it every breakdown, just enough to sow a bit of doubt and or cut down the options for the scrum half.

Did it a couple of times in the final play.

[tc27]

Good defensive periods from both sides in this game.

[JM2K6]

Ah, this game deserved to end on something other than a minor mistake. Congratulations Ireland, first twenty looked a lot like the old Ireland but the rest was very jittery and that made for a very entertaining game

[Tichtheid]

Arg players didn't think there was a knock on at the end, to be fair I didn't see anything obvious at the time

[fishfoodie]

Phew ! Just as the FB was stepping into the pocket to get a draw

[JM2K6]

Arg players didn't think there was a knock on at the end, to be fair I didn't see anything obvious at the time

The instant reaction by all the Irish players suggested there was, tbh. Man, so close to another epic win

Poor Matera carried all day and got buried all day. He must wonder what he did to upset the Irish

[Slick]

Well done Ireland I suppose, but that’s definitely a team on the way down, and the stadium knows it.

[Blackmac]

Doris wasn't interfering at all

He was. He'd fallen off the contact onto his knees and instead of retreating back onside he stands up and either hangs around like a bad smell or slightly encroaches round the side. He does it every breakdown, just enough to sow a bit of doubt and or cut down the options for the scrum half.

Did it a couple of times in the final play.

It's an infuriating trademark

[Blackmac]

Enjoyed that.

[Paddington Bear]

Was very worried when Argentina shipped two early, but that was a great watch. Dublin funereal again, they are really there for the taking this 6N

[Uncle fester]

Can someone explain why Lowe wasn't offside at that maul?

You can't be offside when the maul hasn't formed yet.

[Uncle fester]

Incredible fortitude from the young man to get up off his death bed and score a cracking try

Funny how the Irish who take these horrific head knocks never seem to need an HIA.

You did notice his swollen lip yeah?

[Uncle fester]

Stupid question, but I'm too lazy to check myself.

If a player gets two YCs, does this turn into a Full RC, or a 20min RC ?

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[Blackmac]

Incredible fortitude from the young man to get up off his death bed and score a cracking try

Funny how the Irish who take these horrific head knocks never seem to need an HIA.

You did notice his swollen lip yeah?

Fuck sake, what do you lot not understand about the point. Yes we all noticed the swollen lip and yes there was obviously a head knock which was deemed sufficiently dangerous for a player to be carded, which is why he should have had an HIA. It would appear that the Irish from the management and medical team down, consistently fail to understand that.

[Tichtheid]

Can someone explain why Lowe wasn't offside at that maul?

You can't be offside when the maul hasn't formed yet.

So it’s a matter of timing? I suppose the other Irish players hold off until Lowe gets there and plays to kill the maul, winning the scrum put in.

It’s one of those that just looks wrong

[OomStruisbaai]

Congrats with the win to Ireland. Credit to the Pumas, they improved a lot since the last WC. The ref bashing is very tiredsome.

[Sards]

Ireland dodged a bullet

[Paddington Bear]

Can someone explain why Lowe wasn't offside at that maul?

You can't be offside when the maul hasn't formed yet.

So it’s a matter of timing? I suppose the other Irish players hold off until Lowe gets there and plays to kill the maul, winning the scrum put in.

It’s one of those that just looks wrong

Hate to defend the Irish and particularly James Lowe, but that was an excellent piece of defence, well timed as you say

[Tichtheid]

You can't be offside when the maul hasn't formed yet.

So it’s a matter of timing? I suppose the other Irish players hold off until Lowe gets there and plays to kill the maul, winning the scrum put in.

It’s one of those that just looks wrong

Hate to defend the Irish and particularly James Lowe, but that was an excellent piece of defence, well timed as you say

I wasn't really attacking the Irish or Lowe. I thought it looked like he had come in from an offside position, given that he was round the back of the Argentinian players. As fester says, the maul obviously wasn't formed so he must have taken hold of the catcher before other Irish players made contact with the other Arg players.

To me it's a very good execution of something the coaches have come up with in accordance with the arcane laws of Rugby Union. It's also a pretty negative piece of play, an extension of the choke tackle.

However, if Darcy Graham had done it would been beautiful, I'm sure.

[robmatic]

Funny how the Irish who take these horrific head knocks never seem to need an HIA.

You did notice his swollen lip yeah?

Fuck sake, what do you lot not understand about the point. Yes we all noticed the swollen lip and yes there was obviously a head knock which was deemed sufficiently dangerous for a player to be carded, which is why he should have had an HIA. It would appear that the Irish from the management and medical team down, consistently fail to understand that.

Surely there is a player welfare issue? The guy has been knocked on the head in a dangerous manner - it should be getting checked out.

[JM2K6]

So it’s a matter of timing? I suppose the other Irish players hold off until Lowe gets there and plays to kill the maul, winning the scrum put in.

It’s one of those that just looks wrong

Hate to defend the Irish and particularly James Lowe, but that was an excellent piece of defence, well timed as you say

I wasn't really attacking the Irish or Lowe. I thought it looked like he had come in from an offside position, given that he was round the back of the Argentinian players. As fester says, the maul obviously wasn't formed so he must have taken hold of the catcher before other Irish players made contact with the other Arg players.

To me it's a very good execution of something the coaches have come up with in accordance with the arcane laws of Rugby Union. It's also a pretty negative piece of play, an extension of the choke tackle.

However, if Darcy Graham had done it would been beautiful, I'm sure.

It's been a thing for several years tbh

[Tichtheid]

Hate to defend the Irish and particularly James Lowe, but that was an excellent piece of defence, well timed as you say

I wasn't really attacking the Irish or Lowe. I thought it looked like he had come in from an offside position, given that he was round the back of the Argentinian players. As fester says, the maul obviously wasn't formed so he must have taken hold of the catcher before other Irish players made contact with the other Arg players.

To me it's a very good execution of something the coaches have come up with in accordance with the arcane laws of Rugby Union. It's also a pretty negative piece of play, an extension of the choke tackle.

However, if Darcy Graham had done it would been beautiful, I'm sure.

It's been a thing for several years tbh

it has, but it's not often pulled off like that.

I thought the maul had formed to be honest, but it's not a hill I'm going to die on because I cba going back and looking at it, I'll take the ref's word for it

[Paddington Bear]

So it’s a matter of timing? I suppose the other Irish players hold off until Lowe gets there and plays to kill the maul, winning the scrum put in.

It’s one of those that just looks wrong

Hate to defend the Irish and particularly James Lowe, but that was an excellent piece of defence, well timed as you say

I wasn't really attacking the Irish or Lowe. I thought it looked like he had come in from an offside position, given that he was round the back of the Argentinian players. As fester says, the maul obviously wasn't formed so he must have taken hold of the catcher before other Irish players made contact with the other Arg players.

To me it's a very good execution of something the coaches have come up with in accordance with the arcane laws of Rugby Union. It's also a pretty negative piece of play, an extension of the choke tackle.

However, if Darcy Graham had done it would been beautiful, I'm sure.

Yes, the odd time Saracens/England pull off a choke tackle it provokes a positive bang on the table as opposed to my usual ‘really think this is bad for the sport’!

[Tichtheid]

Hate to defend the Irish and particularly James Lowe, but that was an excellent piece of defence, well timed as you say

I wasn't really attacking the Irish or Lowe. I thought it looked like he had come in from an offside position, given that he was round the back of the Argentinian players. As fester says, the maul obviously wasn't formed so he must have taken hold of the catcher before other Irish players made contact with the other Arg players.

To me it's a very good execution of something the coaches have come up with in accordance with the arcane laws of Rugby Union. It's also a pretty negative piece of play, an extension of the choke tackle.

However, if Darcy Graham had done it would been beautiful, I'm sure.

Yes, the odd time Saracens/England pull off a choke tackle it provokes a positive bang on the table as opposed to my usual ‘really think this is bad for the sport’!

This is way off topic, but it's something that interests me - did you, or anyone else reading this, read that sentence of mine as "if Darcy Graham had done it would have been beautiful, I'm sure"

I accidentally missed out the "have", but our brains apparently insert missing words where we expect to see them.

[Paddington Bear]

I wasn't really attacking the Irish or Lowe. I thought it looked like he had come in from an offside position, given that he was round the back of the Argentinian players. As fester says, the maul obviously wasn't formed so he must have taken hold of the catcher before other Irish players made contact with the other Arg players.

To me it's a very good execution of something the coaches have come up with in accordance with the arcane laws of Rugby Union. It's also a pretty negative piece of play, an extension of the choke tackle.

However, if Darcy Graham had done it would been beautiful, I'm sure.

Yes, the odd time Saracens/England pull off a choke tackle it provokes a positive bang on the table as opposed to my usual ‘really think this is bad for the sport’!

This is way off topic, but it's something that interests me - did you, or anyone else reading this, read that sentence of mine as "if Darcy Graham had done it would have been beautiful, I'm sure"

I accidentally missed out the "have", but our brains apparently insert missing words where we expect to see them.

Yep I read it exactly the same as you, the brain really is a funny thing isn’t it

[robmatic]

I wasn't really attacking the Irish or Lowe. I thought it looked like he had come in from an offside position, given that he was round the back of the Argentinian players. As fester says, the maul obviously wasn't formed so he must have taken hold of the catcher before other Irish players made contact with the other Arg players.

To me it's a very good execution of something the coaches have come up with in accordance with the arcane laws of Rugby Union. It's also a pretty negative piece of play, an extension of the choke tackle.

However, if Darcy Graham had done it would been beautiful, I'm sure.

Yes, the odd time Saracens/England pull off a choke tackle it provokes a positive bang on the table as opposed to my usual ‘really think this is bad for the sport’!

This is way off topic, but it's something that interests me - did you, or anyone else reading this, read that sentence of mine as "if Darcy Graham had done it would have been beautiful, I'm sure"

I accidentally missed out the "have", but our brains apparently insert missing words where we expect to see them.

My brain put in the missing comma and 'it' as well