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ScarfaceClaw wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:56 pm And that’s just fucking stupid by the argies.

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:59 pm Couple of extremely dodgy cleans here too, tbf

Blackmac wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:59 pm

ScarfaceClaw wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:56 pm And that’s just fucking stupid by the argies.

He saw what Doris was at and decided to take matters into his own hands. Pointless.

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:00 pm Haha another bottle job on the yellow

There goes the hope that the 20 minute red would stop that shit

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:00 pm

Blackmac wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:59 pm

ScarfaceClaw wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:56 pm And that’s just fucking stupid by the argies.

He saw what Doris was at and decided to take matters into his own hands. Pointless.

Doris wasn't interfering at all

Blackmac wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:03 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:00 pm

Blackmac wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:59 pm

He saw what Doris was at and decided to take matters into his own hands. Pointless.

Doris wasn't interfering at all

He was. He'd fallen off the contact onto his knees and instead of retreating back onside he stands up and either hangs around like a bad smell or slightly encroaches round the side. He does it every breakdown, just enough to sow a bit of doubt and or cut down the options for the scrum half.

Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:05 pm Arg players didn't think there was a knock on at the end, to be fair I didn't see anything obvious at the time

petej wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:04 pm

Blackmac wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:03 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:00 pm

Doris wasn't interfering at all

He was. He'd fallen off the contact onto his knees and instead of retreating back onside he stands up and either hangs around like a bad smell or slightly encroaches round the side. He does it every breakdown, just enough to sow a bit of doubt and or cut down the options for the scrum half.

Did it a couple of times in the final play.

Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:27 pm Can someone explain why Lowe wasn't offside at that maul?

Blackmac wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:21 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:18 pm Incredible fortitude from the young man to get up off his death bed and score a cracking try

Funny how the Irish who take these horrific head knocks never seem to need an HIA.

fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:49 pm Stupid question, but I'm too lazy to check myself.

If a player gets two YCs, does this turn into a Full RC, or a 20min RC ?

Uncle fester wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:17 am

Blackmac wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:21 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:18 pm Incredible fortitude from the young man to get up off his death bed and score a cracking try

Funny how the Irish who take these horrific head knocks never seem to need an HIA.

You did notice his swollen lip yeah?

Uncle fester wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:17 am

Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:27 pm Can someone explain why Lowe wasn't offside at that maul?

You can't be offside when the maul hasn't formed yet.

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:21 am

Uncle fester wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:17 am

Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:27 pm Can someone explain why Lowe wasn't offside at that maul?

You can't be offside when the maul hasn't formed yet.

So it’s a matter of timing? I suppose the other Irish players hold off until Lowe gets there and plays to kill the maul, winning the scrum put in.

It’s one of those that just looks wrong

Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:11 am

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:21 am

Uncle fester wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:17 am

You can't be offside when the maul hasn't formed yet.

So it’s a matter of timing? I suppose the other Irish players hold off until Lowe gets there and plays to kill the maul, winning the scrum put in.

It’s one of those that just looks wrong

Hate to defend the Irish and particularly James Lowe, but that was an excellent piece of defence, well timed as you say

Blackmac wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 8:44 am

Uncle fester wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:17 am

Blackmac wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:21 pm

Funny how the Irish who take these horrific head knocks never seem to need an HIA.

You did notice his swollen lip yeah?

Fuck sake, what do you lot not understand about the point. Yes we all noticed the swollen lip and yes there was obviously a head knock which was deemed sufficiently dangerous for a player to be carded, which is why he should have had an HIA. It would appear that the Irish from the management and medical team down, consistently fail to understand that.

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:25 am

Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:11 am

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:21 am

So it’s a matter of timing? I suppose the other Irish players hold off until Lowe gets there and plays to kill the maul, winning the scrum put in.

It’s one of those that just looks wrong

Hate to defend the Irish and particularly James Lowe, but that was an excellent piece of defence, well timed as you say

I wasn't really attacking the Irish or Lowe. I thought it looked like he had come in from an offside position, given that he was round the back of the Argentinian players. As fester says, the maul obviously wasn't formed so he must have taken hold of the catcher before other Irish players made contact with the other Arg players.

To me it's a very good execution of something the coaches have come up with in accordance with the arcane laws of Rugby Union. It's also a pretty negative piece of play, an extension of the choke tackle.

However, if Darcy Graham had done it would been beautiful, I'm sure.

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:26 am

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:25 am

Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:11 am

Hate to defend the Irish and particularly James Lowe, but that was an excellent piece of defence, well timed as you say

I wasn't really attacking the Irish or Lowe. I thought it looked like he had come in from an offside position, given that he was round the back of the Argentinian players. As fester says, the maul obviously wasn't formed so he must have taken hold of the catcher before other Irish players made contact with the other Arg players.

To me it's a very good execution of something the coaches have come up with in accordance with the arcane laws of Rugby Union. It's also a pretty negative piece of play, an extension of the choke tackle.

However, if Darcy Graham had done it would been beautiful, I'm sure.

It's been a thing for several years tbh

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:25 am

Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:11 am

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:21 am

So it’s a matter of timing? I suppose the other Irish players hold off until Lowe gets there and plays to kill the maul, winning the scrum put in.

It’s one of those that just looks wrong

Hate to defend the Irish and particularly James Lowe, but that was an excellent piece of defence, well timed as you say

I wasn't really attacking the Irish or Lowe. I thought it looked like he had come in from an offside position, given that he was round the back of the Argentinian players. As fester says, the maul obviously wasn't formed so he must have taken hold of the catcher before other Irish players made contact with the other Arg players.

To me it's a very good execution of something the coaches have come up with in accordance with the arcane laws of Rugby Union. It's also a pretty negative piece of play, an extension of the choke tackle.

However, if Darcy Graham had done it would been beautiful, I'm sure.

Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:03 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:25 am

Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:11 am

Hate to defend the Irish and particularly James Lowe, but that was an excellent piece of defence, well timed as you say

I wasn't really attacking the Irish or Lowe. I thought it looked like he had come in from an offside position, given that he was round the back of the Argentinian players. As fester says, the maul obviously wasn't formed so he must have taken hold of the catcher before other Irish players made contact with the other Arg players.

To me it's a very good execution of something the coaches have come up with in accordance with the arcane laws of Rugby Union. It's also a pretty negative piece of play, an extension of the choke tackle.

However, if Darcy Graham had done it would been beautiful, I'm sure.

Yes, the odd time Saracens/England pull off a choke tackle it provokes a positive bang on the table as opposed to my usual ‘really think this is bad for the sport’!

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:09 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:03 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:25 am


I wasn't really attacking the Irish or Lowe. I thought it looked like he had come in from an offside position, given that he was round the back of the Argentinian players. As fester says, the maul obviously wasn't formed so he must have taken hold of the catcher before other Irish players made contact with the other Arg players.

To me it's a very good execution of something the coaches have come up with in accordance with the arcane laws of Rugby Union. It's also a pretty negative piece of play, an extension of the choke tackle.

However, if Darcy Graham had done it would been beautiful, I'm sure.

Yes, the odd time Saracens/England pull off a choke tackle it provokes a positive bang on the table as opposed to my usual ‘really think this is bad for the sport’!

This is way off topic, but it's something that interests me - did you, or anyone else reading this, read that sentence of mine as "if Darcy Graham had done it would have been beautiful, I'm sure"

I accidentally missed out the "have", but our brains apparently insert missing words where we expect to see them.

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:09 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:03 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:25 am


I wasn't really attacking the Irish or Lowe. I thought it looked like he had come in from an offside position, given that he was round the back of the Argentinian players. As fester says, the maul obviously wasn't formed so he must have taken hold of the catcher before other Irish players made contact with the other Arg players.

To me it's a very good execution of something the coaches have come up with in accordance with the arcane laws of Rugby Union. It's also a pretty negative piece of play, an extension of the choke tackle.

However, if Darcy Graham had done it would been beautiful, I'm sure.

Yes, the odd time Saracens/England pull off a choke tackle it provokes a positive bang on the table as opposed to my usual ‘really think this is bad for the sport’!

This is way off topic, but it's something that interests me - did you, or anyone else reading this, read that sentence of mine as "if Darcy Graham had done it would have been beautiful, I'm sure"

I accidentally missed out the "have", but our brains apparently insert missing words where we expect to see them.