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I understand why everyone loves beating England:
We are shit
We are slow
We are badly coached
We have few world class players
We bang on about winning the RWC and numerous other finals
We have Marcus smith

And yet we pull wins like that out of the hat.

Very undeserved, awful game, but a funny end for England

If Ita v Wal was Laurel and Hardy, Eng v Fra was Dumb and Dumber.

Enjoyable watch though.

Grand Slam decider tomorrow now

Somewhat predictable given conditions. Southern French had a shocker.

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:33 pm

Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:31 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:30 pm Excellent stuff. Really pleased with the 2nd half turnaround for Fin. Daly manages to not drop it

Um, Fin, why didn't you take the time there...???

Shot clock had less time on it than full time.

Nope. He kicked it with 8s left on the shot clock and 6 on the match clock. Doesn't matter though!

I have had a few beers.

Better to secure the points and trust your pack than risk the shot clock running dead, anyway.

Haha, banter option for POTM to finish it off. Good story but fair to say that Curry or Earl or Freeman deserved it considering their work in the first half as well

Was it that fucking idiot Kay that picked MOTM? Curry played his lungs out

Fin Smith clearly hasn't had much media training, that was a pretty honest interview!

Well done les rosbeefs.

I believe France won a contest for the most knockons in a game. Terrible.

Worse of this has been french pundits wanking themselves silly for 5 days and still going at it after the whistle...

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:39 pm Haha, banter option for POTM to finish it off. Good story but fair to say that Curry or Earl or Freeman deserved it considering their work in the first half as well

Who won it? Id stormed out by then

Yeeb wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:07 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:02 pm Ramos again. GET HIM OFF

Is he like how Mike Catt was for me ? The player you feel like emperors new clothes in where you are the only person to realise how shit he is ?

He's always been like this. Back on the pre-amble to the RWC when it was a bunfight by Fre fans over Ramos and Jaminet, I warned that Ramos will go 10, 15 games with near perfect displays and then save all the f**k ups for 1 game. Fine if the f**k up is Namibia but, inevitably, it's always in a key game. SA in the RWC. Tonight. He really is old school Fre mentally. Fragile as f**k. As soon as he ballsed up a few times in the first half, Galthie should have hooked him because it was only ever going to get worse.

Yeah. He looks imperious when it's going well but that's easy, isn't it?

Slick wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:42 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:39 pm Haha, banter option for POTM to finish it off. Good story but fair to say that Curry or Earl or Freeman deserved it considering their work in the first half as well

Who won it? Id stormed out by then

Marcus Smith.

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:39 pm Haha, banter option for POTM to finish it off. Good story but fair to say that Curry or Earl or Freeman deserved it considering their work in the first half as well

Fuck off you sour prick.

laurent wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:42 pm Well done les rosbeefs.

I believe France won a contest for the most knockons in a game. Terrible.

Worse of this has been french pundits wanking themselves silly for 5 days and still going at it after the whistle...

PS. did you read ROG in Bernol?

"Le meilleur joueur français à l'heure actuelle est Thomas Ramos, écrit l'ancien demi d'ouverture dans sa chronique parue dans The Irish Examiner. La raison pour laquelle je dis cela, c'est que les modifications apportées par l'Angleterre (dans sa composition d'équipe, N.D.L.R.) ne font aucune différence, car il est si bon."

Oxbow wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:44 pm

Slick wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:42 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:39 pm Haha, banter option for POTM to finish it off. Good story but fair to say that Curry or Earl or Freeman deserved it considering their work in the first half as well

Who won it? Id stormed out by then

Marcus Smith.

Good man

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:44 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:39 pm Haha, banter option for POTM to finish it off. Good story but fair to say that Curry or Earl or Freeman deserved it considering their work in the first half as well

Fuck off you sour prick.

You are properly unhinged.

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:50 pm

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:44 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:39 pm Haha, banter option for POTM to finish it off. Good story but fair to say that Curry or Earl or Freeman deserved it considering their work in the first half as well

Fuck off you sour prick.

You are properly unhinged.

You said it was banter option?

sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 4:08 pm

sturginho wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 4:07 pm Can we have a win where we don't try to fuck it up at the end?

They're trying to kill you, sturg.

I think you're right!

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:57 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:50 pm

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:44 pm



Fuck off you sour prick.

You are properly unhinged.

You said it was banter option?

Yes, it's a funny choice! He had a bit of a shocker of a first half and a superb second, so the choice to forget all about the first half in favour of the narrative is very funny indeed and something I'm sure plenty of the players hope will happen in camp when the time comes to review it.

But in all seriousness, it's Curry or Earl or Freeman who really deserve it based on the whole match. And even more importantly, POTM doesn't matter in the slightest so treating it as anything other than something funny would be extremely strange

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:03 pm

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:57 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:50 pm

You are properly unhinged.

You said it was banter option?

Yes, it's a funny choice! He had a bit of a shocker of a first half and a superb second, so the choice to forget all about the first half in favour of the narrative is very funny indeed and something I'm sure plenty of the players hope will happen in camp when the time comes to review it.

But in all seriousness, it's Curry or Earl or Freeman who really deserve it based on the whole match. And even more importantly, POTM doesn't matter in the slightest so treating it as anything other than something funny would be extremely strange

He took over the kicking and had the cajones to deliver.

He was the MoM.

At least, for the time being, we can put to rest who the best 10 in England is. That is serious progress.

Marcus did better than Steward would have done though, I'll give you that.

Yeeb wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:34 pm I understand why everyone loves beating England:
We are shit
We are slow
We are badly coached
We have few world class players
We bang on about winning the RWC and numerous other finals
We have Marcus smith

And yet we pull wins like that out of the hat.

Very undeserved, awful game, but a funny end for England

What kind of weak shit is this?

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:33 pm

Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:31 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:30 pm Excellent stuff. Really pleased with the 2nd half turnaround for Fin. Daly manages to not drop it

Um, Fin, why didn't you take the time there...???

Shot clock had less time on it than full time.

Nope. He kicked it with 8s left on the shot clock and 6 on the match clock. Doesn't matter though!

Try was scored at 78 minutes and something, 60 second shot clock. I know on the screen we had just enough time, but I wouldn't be surprised if the ref had already told him the game would restart.

Raggs wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:14 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:33 pm

Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:31 pm

Shot clock had less time on it than full time.

Nope. He kicked it with 8s left on the shot clock and 6 on the match clock. Doesn't matter though!

Try was scored at 78 minutes and something, 60 second shot clock. I know on the screen we had just enough time, but I wouldn't be surprised if the ref had already told him the game would restart.

Entirely possible. And Hal is right anyway, you can't dick around when it's a second or two. I blame the commentators for stressing me out

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:09 pm

Your boy has been the starting 10 for the last year. England won fuck all. He had a decent run, he got a fair chance and he fucked it. He's a very talented player but he's not a player that leads. And he's flaky when under the cosh. I like him but he's not the answer at 10 for England.

Deep down you know this too.

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:18 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:09 pm

Your boy has been the starting 10 for the last year. England won fuck all. He had a decent run, he got a fair chance and he fucked it. He's a very talented player but he's not a player that leads. And he's flaky when under the cosh. I like him but he's not the answer at 10 for England.

Deep down you know this too.

I think I'll continue to revel in an extremely funny win rather than engage in whatever this is, thanks anyway!

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:18 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:09 pm

Your boy has been the starting 10 for the last year. England won fuck all. He had a decent run, he got a fair chance and he fucked it. He's a very talented player but he's not a player that leads. And he's flaky when under the cosh. I like him but he's not the answer at 10 for England.

Deep down you know this too.

It’s not the right time for this

tc27 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:11 pm

Yeeb wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:34 pm I understand why everyone loves beating England:
We are shit
We are slow
We are badly coached
We have few world class players
We bang on about winning the RWC and numerous other finals
We have Marcus smith

And yet we pull wins like that out of the hat.

Very undeserved, awful game, but a funny end for England

What kind of weak shit is this?

Mate cmon , there isn’t a single thing there that’s not true . One of France’s top ten biggest chokes I’ve seen

Slick wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:26 pm

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:18 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:09 pm

Your boy has been the starting 10 for the last year. England won fuck all. He had a decent run, he got a fair chance and he fucked it. He's a very talented player but he's not a player that leads. And he's flaky when under the cosh. I like him but he's not the answer at 10 for England.

Deep down you know this too.

It’s not the right time for this

Of course it is. This is England's first proper win for a year ffs!

I just knew England would won.

How have we won in the last minute against France and our fans are continuing their decade long shitfight?

Atmosphere was unbelievable, the celebration of the final try has only been topped by things I’ve seen at football. Clearly some luck but think we’ve deserved a bit, also who cares.

Freeman, Curry and Smith (F) were superb and my god I love Daly

Scotland U20 5 - Ireland U20 26 HT

Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 8:31 pm How have we won in the last minute against France and our fans are continuing their decade long shitfight?

I love this. It's a Saffer thing.

So with the minnow games out of the way, it's on to the main event tomorrow. I believe it's 2017 since the Scots got a win in this fixture and a few of those were down to them shooting themselves in the foot. Our luck will run out at some stage.

Could it be tomorrow with the home advantage and Irelands caretaker coach?

Suspect some of this is behind the thinking of bringing in POM and dropping Baird to the bench.

Uncle fester wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 9:26 pm So with the minnow games out of the way, it's on to the main event tomorrow. I believe it's 2017 since the Scots got a win in this fixture and a few of those were down to them shooting themselves in the foot. Our luck will run out at some stage.

Could it be tomorrow with the home advantage and Irelands caretaker coach?

Suspect some of this is behind the thinking of bringing in POM and dropping Baird to the bench.

We all know how the Scots love Peter

... if there's a Scottish YC, then it's 10 -1 on that POM causes the Scottish player to lose the plot

Of course they do. He's a lovely man.

15 - 33 FT in the U20s

Scotland woke up too late, after Ireland bolted out to a TBP in the first ~25 minutes, but played some nice stuff in the 2nd half, & some promising signs for Scotland. For Ireland it was more like what they needed last weekend, & will need for the games to come.

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:47 pm

Slick wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:26 pm

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:18 pm



Your boy has been the starting 10 for the last year. England won fuck all. He had a decent run, he got a fair chance and he fucked it. He's a very talented player but he's not a player that leads. And he's flaky when under the cosh. I like him but he's not the answer at 10 for England.

Deep down you know this too.

It’s not the right time for this

Of course it is. This is England's first proper win for a year ffs!

It’s a joke. I’m literally never wrong about rugby and proven correct again.

The Joe Marler thing was a blip, admittedly

fishfoodie wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 9:35 pm 15 - 33 FT in the U20s

Scotland woke up too late, after Ireland bolted out to a TBP in the first ~25 minutes, but played some nice stuff in the 2nd half, & some promising signs for Scotland. For Ireland it was more like what they needed last weekend, & will need for the games to come.

Pack got pumped in the first half making it very difficult for the backs, and defence was not working. The same preplanned mass subs is annoying as Murray is clearly not reading the game. Brightest sparks were both scrum halves - Cowan is like George Horne and Paterson has some wheels (though is a wee bit too selfish). If Urwin could place kick it would have looked a lot more respectable. Logan not up to the hype.

The England pack will be looking forward to this…

fishfoodie wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 9:29 pm

Uncle fester wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 9:26 pm So with the minnow games out of the way, it's on to the main event tomorrow. I believe it's 2017 since the Scots got a win in this fixture and a few of those were down to them shooting themselves in the foot. Our luck will run out at some stage.

Could it be tomorrow with the home advantage and Irelands caretaker coach?

Suspect some of this is behind the thinking of bringing in POM and dropping Baird to the bench.

We all know how the Scots love Peter

... if there's a Scottish YC, then it's 10 -1 on that POM causes the Scottish player to lose the plot

I think I’m the only person in Scotland that quite likes the guy