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Kawazaki wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:05 pm
Brazil wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:00 pm Don't attack the fending arm then. Which will be easy because you'll be low anyway, then you can wrap the legs.

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As Raggs pointed out, noted big busting ball carrier Manu got tackled there.
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JM2K6 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:08 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:05 pm
Brazil wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:00 pm Don't attack the fending arm then. Which will be easy because you'll be low anyway, then you can wrap the legs.

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As Raggs pointed out, noted big busting ball carrier Manu got tackled there.


Sure. I believe everything I read in here as well.
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Kawazaki wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:09 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:08 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:05 pm


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As Raggs pointed out, noted big busting ball carrier Manu got tackled there.


Sure. I believe everything I read in here as well.
Well, here's the next shot

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Manu Tuilagi, scorer of England's second-half try, is tackled by Vincent Clerc during the Six Nations victory over France.

(tbf, that looks like Parra to me)
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JM2K6 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:18 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:09 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:08 pm

As Raggs pointed out, noted big busting ball carrier Manu got tackled there.


Sure. I believe everything I read in here as well.
Well, here's the next shot

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Manu Tuilagi, scorer of England's second-half try, is tackled by Vincent Clerc during the Six Nations victory over France.


Brave.

Got the shot after that one? :lol:
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In fact, here it is:



An object lesson in taking a still photo and claiming it supports your perspective. Tuilagi's fend there does sweet fuck all, Parra goes straight under it and nails him to stop the try :thumbup:
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Nailed him is a bit strong, he didn't complete the tackle but it isn't the best example.

I maintain that if I was a coach with decent players, I'd be looking to exploit this. It might improve things, we might have 55-53 scorelines. Who knows.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:36 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:35 pm Italy game well on course to be the lowest attendance since the South Stand was being redeveloped. Only themselves to blame for dire product on the pitch and a cheapest ticket of £93. That's over doubled in six years
Have we ever not sold out 6N home game?

Serves the RFU right for continuing to gouge with prices.
Not to my knowledge - probably there's been the odd single seat available but that would be it.
Just madness as well, I came up from uni to an Italy game a few years ago with a largeish group of us. Tickets were at least half the price of what they will be this year but we put more than the difference each behind the bars
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Paddington Bear wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:31 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:36 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:35 pm Italy game well on course to be the lowest attendance since the South Stand was being redeveloped. Only themselves to blame for dire product on the pitch and a cheapest ticket of £93. That's over doubled in six years
Have we ever not sold out 6N home game?

Serves the RFU right for continuing to gouge with prices.
Not to my knowledge - probably there's been the odd single seat available but that would be it.
Just madness as well, I came up from uni to an Italy game a few years ago with a largeish group of us. Tickets were at least half the price of what they will be this year but we put more than the difference each behind the bars
There are swathes of seats available in the North and South upper stands for that match. I've been doing the international tickets at my club for years and never seen so ,many available so close to the start. Cost of living plus RFU greed!
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Far be it from me to avoid giving a corporation a kicking when I can, but aren't the prices a reflection of monies lost during Covid?

Of course, international rugby has become prohibitively expensive for many over the last decade, but recent events have probably accelerated the price rises.
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:59 am Far be it from me to avoid giving a corporation a kicking when I can, but aren't the prices a reflection of monies lost during Covid?

Of course, international rugby has become prohibitively expensive for many over the last decade, but recent events have probably accelerated the price rises.
Yes, most definitely
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:59 am Far be it from me to avoid giving a corporation a kicking when I can, but aren't the prices a reflection of monies lost during Covid?

Of course, international rugby has become prohibitively expensive for many over the last decade, but recent events have probably accelerated the price rises.
Indeed, but they also need to be aware of the commercial realities and price their tickets at a level that will sell, and they have clearly failed to do so for the Italy match.

Tickets for the Womens 6 Nation match between England and France in April are priced at £25 for Adults and £5 for children, so they don't have to charge £95 a ticket for all games at Twickenham.
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Lobby wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:40 am
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:59 am Far be it from me to avoid giving a corporation a kicking when I can, but aren't the prices a reflection of monies lost during Covid?

Of course, international rugby has become prohibitively expensive for many over the last decade, but recent events have probably accelerated the price rises.
Indeed, but they also need to be aware of the commercial realities and price their tickets at a level that will sell, and they have clearly failed to do so for the Italy match.

Tickets for the Womens 6 Nation match between England and France in April are priced at £25 for Adults and £5 for children, so they don't have to charge £95 a ticket for all games at Twickenham.
They've pitched the pricing wrongly for the Italy match though child price is £30
£195 for the Premium tickets for the last match against the AB's. Sold out my club allocation in less than 24 hours
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SaintK wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:49 am
Lobby wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:40 am
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:59 am Far be it from me to avoid giving a corporation a kicking when I can, but aren't the prices a reflection of monies lost during Covid?

Of course, international rugby has become prohibitively expensive for many over the last decade, but recent events have probably accelerated the price rises.
Indeed, but they also need to be aware of the commercial realities and price their tickets at a level that will sell, and they have clearly failed to do so for the Italy match.

Tickets for the Womens 6 Nation match between England and France in April are priced at £25 for Adults and £5 for children, so they don't have to charge £95 a ticket for all games at Twickenham.
They've pitched the pricing wrongly for the Italy match though child price is £30
£195 for the Premium tickets for the last match against the AB's. Sold out my club allocation in less than 24 hours
My recollection is that the Italy match has always been the hardest sell of the 6N matches, and used to be the only one for which there were still some tickets left for public sale after the club allocations had been sold. Mind you, I've never seen as many tickets still unsold as this year.
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I was at the Calcutta Cup match ten years ago, I've just had a look at some photos and we were towards the top of the middle tier, between halfway and the 10m line, in the stand opposite where the players run out. The tickets were around £80 iirc.

What would these seats sell for now?
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:16 am I was at the Calcutta Cup match ten years ago, I've just had a look at some photos and we were towards the top of the middle tier, between halfway and the 10m line, in the stand opposite where the players run out. The tickets were around £80 iirc.

What would these seats sell for now?
Without checking as I’m on a train £140 I think
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Good news, everyone!

Jack Willis is out of the training camp with an injury, but not sure how long term it is!

Apparently he was training in a trio of him, Ben Curry and Dombrandt, so one of Earl or Ludlam should step in, or Simmonds out of position, or another bloody 5.5.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:41 am Good news, everyone!

Jack Willis is out of the training camp with an injury, but not sure how long term it is!

Apparently he was training in a trio of him, Ben Curry and Dombrandt, so one of Earl or Ludlam should step in, or Simmonds out of position, or another bloody 5.5.
Injuring players all the time, bloody Eddie Jon.... Borthers.
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FFS. In other news, Cockers out after the 6N apparently.
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:59 am Far be it from me to avoid giving a corporation a kicking when I can, but aren't the prices a reflection of monies lost during Covid?

Of course, international rugby has become prohibitively expensive for many over the last decade, but recent events have probably accelerated the price rises.
Of course, but there's a limit and £100+ for poor seats for Italy on a Sunday is poor commercial awareness. It will be the first home game vs Italy I've missed in a long time and I'm sure others will be in the same boat, and so the RFU misses out on everything all of us would have bought inside the ground. I've said in here before, no issue with premium seats being gouged for all their worth and I understand the commercial realities, but charging those prices for that game just takes the piss, and clearly a fair chunk of the English rugby public agree with me.
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I'm getting regular begging emails from the RFU marketing Italy tickets to me. Not sure I've seen that this close to the 6N before.

But put on a shit spectacle and charge high prices, don't be surprised when no one turns up.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:37 pm I'm getting regular begging emails from the RFU marketing Italy tickets to me. Not sure I've seen that this close to the 6N before.

But put on a shit spectacle and charge high prices, don't be surprised when no one turns up.
Yep. It isn't uncommon for Italy to go on general sale, it is uncommon for those tickets not to be snapped up. Two x £60 say is a great Christmas present, not hard to see how this isn't working
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Just imagine how shite ticket sales would be if Eddie Jones was still in charge!
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Hal Jordan wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:41 am Good news, everyone!

Jack Willis is out of the training camp with an injury, but not sure how long term it is!

Apparently he was training in a trio of him, Ben Curry and Dombrandt, so one of Earl or Ludlam should step in, or Simmonds out of position, or another bloody 5.5.
Bugger - we've got cover in depth in the Backrow but that's definitely a blow.
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England v Italy used to be one of the games I'd wander up to the stadium at around kickoff time and see if the touts were unloading cheap tickets. I got a few cheap games doing that. Paying face value back then seemed bad value, let alone now.
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Ovals wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:07 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:41 am Good news, everyone!

Jack Willis is out of the training camp with an injury, but not sure how long term it is!

Apparently he was training in a trio of him, Ben Curry and Dombrandt, so one of Earl or Ludlam should step in, or Simmonds out of position, or another bloody 5.5.
Bugger - we've got cover in depth in the Backrow but that's definitely a blow.
Evidently he's not injured though - just has to return to the Toulouse Squad today and is, therefore, unavailable to train with England this weekend. All being good he'll return early next week. Not ideal though.
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Ovals wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:32 pm
Ovals wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:07 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:41 am Good news, everyone!

Jack Willis is out of the training camp with an injury, but not sure how long term it is!

Apparently he was training in a trio of him, Ben Curry and Dombrandt, so one of Earl or Ludlam should step in, or Simmonds out of position, or another bloody 5.5.
Bugger - we've got cover in depth in the Backrow but that's definitely a blow.
Evidently he's not injured though - just has to return to the Toulouse Squad today and is, therefore, unavailable to train with England this weekend. All being good he'll return early next week. Not ideal though.
He's not? That's good. He may not be good to go for the first match, but hopefully he can get into the squad.
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Seems I assumed "not available" to mean "injured". Understandable in light of Jones' training camps.

Hopefully we've also moved on from the seaborne squad building activities, too. I appreciate the male form as much as anyone, but I draw the line at Tweets of props in Speedos.
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Hal Jordan wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:37 pm Seems I assumed "not available" to mean "injured". Understandable in light of Jones' training camps.

Hopefully we've also moved on from the seaborne squad building activities, too. I appreciate the male form as much as anyone, but I draw the line at Tweets of props in Speedos.


Borthwick cancelled a Portugal training camp.
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I was just having a look at the three European league tables and a question occurred to me regarding the English leagues - what happened to the points gained/lost during games involving Wasps and Wuss?
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:38 am I was just having a look at the three European league tables and a question occurred to me regarding the English leagues - what happened to the points gained/lost during games involving Wasps and Wuss?
Points taken away. League tables are as if they had not been played. Only semi fair way they could do it really.
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Margin__Walker wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:41 am
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:38 am I was just having a look at the three European league tables and a question occurred to me regarding the English leagues - what happened to the points gained/lost during games involving Wasps and Wuss?
Points taken away. League tables are as if they had not been played. Only semi fair way they could do it really.

Thanks, yeah it is the only fair way, really.
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Daly out for 12 weeks with serious hamstring injury and will miss all the 6N
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Borthwick really is the continuity candidate eh
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JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:41 pm Borthwick really is the continuity candidate eh
Daly's injury came from the Sarries match.
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SaintK wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:38 pm Daly out for 12 weeks with serious hamstring injury and will miss all the 6N


Bloody hell. Sarries have lost their best forward and their best back.
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Raggs wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:14 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:41 pm Borthwick really is the continuity candidate eh
Daly's injury came from the Sarries match.
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Sale vs Bath tonight.

I'm sure you're all looking forward to it. To see how many times Bath can knock on inside Sale's 22 and how long until Jono Ross skulls someone.

I've tried to cut done on booze this year but I may just need a few to cope with this one.
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inactionman wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:19 pm Sale vs Bath tonight.

I'm sure you're all looking forward to it. To see how many times Bath can knock on inside Sale's 22 and how long until Jono Ross skulls someone.

I've tried to cut done on booze this year but I may just need a few to cope with this one.
Bet you’re a few down already
Sale bossing the game with bonus point by halftime
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Almost didn't recognise JJ with his new hairline. Well taken try that.
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.....and Bath take the lead
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