So, coronavirus...
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Really noticeable this morning in the supermarket that many fewer people are wearing masks - not just shoppers but staff too. More than half I'd say. I wore mine but honestly may not bother for much longer.
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Five (more) people with Covid-19 have died ... in New Zealand (yesterday) the Ministry of Health says ...'Our thoughts and condolences are with the patients' family and friends. Out of respect we will be making no further comment' the Ministry said.
Translation: "We will not inform the public that these five were rather elderly / very obese / very fragile / riddled with comorbidities / or possibly all four ... thereby allowing us to Maintain The Fear."
Translation: "We will not inform the public that these five were rather elderly / very obese / very fragile / riddled with comorbidities / or possibly all four ... thereby allowing us to Maintain The Fear."
Contrary to popular belief the dreaded covid hasn't gone away! I hear that some modelling is suggesting another potential wave, there are some serious concerns about some new variants emerging which seem to be more serious in causing ill health/hospitalisations running alongside the vaccine waning. Numbers are creeping up. Fingers crossed!
Best hope there is nothing to this as this government will let it rip through the population before they make a move, their political issues in Parliament take priority.dpedin wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 5:41 pm Contrary to popular belief the dreaded covid hasn't gone away! I hear that some modelling is suggesting another potential wave, there are some serious concerns about some new variants emerging which seem to be more serious in causing ill health/hospitalisations running alongside the vaccine waning. Numbers are creeping up. Fingers crossed!
First time Scotland has had more cases per 100k than England since September last year, which was driven by earlier return of schools. Last 2 weeks has seen increase in cases in Scotland, suggestion I have heard is that this is being driven by new omicron variant and possibly waning of vaccinations? We now have to rely on ONS study as other testing data is unreliable ie not sure how many folk are reporting as positive LFT for example. Fortunately Scotland has the highest % of population vaccinated of all the UK countries, 6% more of eligible pop than in England for example, so hopefully the corresponding increase in case numbers won't see a big increase in hospitalisations and deaths. However there is an uptick in both in Scotland so this doesn't augur well for rest of UK. From what I have heard we will see similar across rest of UK.tc27 wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:24 pm
Guessing we might see restrictions tightened in a devolved area first?
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I was speaking to my Mum back in the UK yesterday and mentioned there wasn't much in the news now that the Ukraine situation dominates.
Hong Kong possibly heading back to Lockdown again - what is the real go in the UK?
Hong Kong possibly heading back to Lockdown again - what is the real go in the UK?
Except of course everyone was mentioned with their co-morbidities and everyone died WITH covid. Just depends where you get your information from really.convoluted wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:09 pm Five (more) people with Covid-19 have died ... in New Zealand (yesterday) the Ministry of Health says ...'Our thoughts and condolences are with the patients' family and friends. Out of respect we will be making no further comment' the Ministry said.
Translation: "We will not inform the public that these five were rather elderly / very obese / very fragile / riddled with comorbidities / or possibly all four ... thereby allowing us to Maintain The Fear."
I drink and I forget things.
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The Sonny Blount School of Doing Gooder in Life?Enzedder wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 2:53 amExcept of course everyone was mentioned with their co-morbidities and everyone died WITH covid. Just depends where you get your information from really.convoluted wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:09 pm Five (more) people with Covid-19 have died ... in New Zealand (yesterday) the Ministry of Health says ...'Our thoughts and condolences are with the patients' family and friends. Out of respect we will be making no further comment' the Ministry said.
Translation: "We will not inform the public that these five were rather elderly / very obese / very fragile / riddled with comorbidities / or possibly all four ... thereby allowing us to Maintain The Fear."
Yep, me too as of this morning. Slight sore throat and a snotty nosesturginho wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 4:10 am After two years successfully avoiding the fucker, I've finally caught the fucking rona....
Hosted a sponsors lunch at my club on Saturday and with 2 teams at home the club was very busy
Oh well!!!
That said, any overall increase is still not positive and we're seeing it here too. As people become more and more comfortable with less and less vigilance this was bound to happen. The hope is that it doesn't have a huge impact and seasonality kicks in this year as the virus, hopefully, settles into a more obvious pattern.
What's ahead for winter is anyone's guess.
What's ahead for winter is anyone's guess.
Nevertheless, you don't want any respiratory disease running loose across a hospital environment, so it puts extra load onto the system.CM11 wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:32 am Number of people in hospital testing positive for covid is a meaningless statistic now that it's endemic.
We saw in Jan that up to 50%, if not more, covid hospital patients were not being treated for covid.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
I'd be surprised if there aren't some light restrictions brought back in at some point this winter for a short time.CM11 wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:35 am That said, any overall increase is still not positive and we're seeing it here too. As people become more and more comfortable with less and less vigilance this was bound to happen. The hope is that it doesn't have a huge impact and seasonality kicks in this year as the virus, hopefully, settles into a more obvious pattern.
What's ahead for winter is anyone's guess.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
Don't! Not worth it, even in the face of a plague
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
That's my thinking alright!
I know I'll be able to resist posting initially but there'll be some day that I'll be weak and can't help myself and that'll be that.
It's happening to me in slow motion, and I know it's happening. I told someone to fuck off yesterday and that's the dam broken really, I'll have to delete my account and try again in 6 monthsCM11 wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:22 pmThat's my thinking alright!
I know I'll be able to resist posting initially but there'll be some day that I'll be weak and can't help myself and that'll be that.
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
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and people with type A blood.JM2K6 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:45 pm Yeah, fuck anyone who is fat or old or has literally any kind of health problem eh.
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Agree case numbers are now a meaningless statistic, the dismantling of testing and relaxing of requirement to isolate if infected means we have no track of real case numbers. However we are still in the pandemic phase of covid with local/regional/national peaks and troughs driven by new and emerging variants. Endemic means a steady state of equilibrium without large peaks of disease but we are seeing significant outbreaks in Hong Kong and Denmark at the moment, for example. It is more wishful thinking rather than PH expert opinion. Also becoming endemic doesn't mean covid severity gets lower, it could be exactly the opposite and get higher. Omicron was said to be 'milder' but that was when compared to Delta, it isn't milder than the original or Alpha variants - vaccination is doing the heavy lifting now.CM11 wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:32 am Number of people in hospital testing positive for covid is a meaningless statistic now that it's endemic.
We saw in Jan that up to 50%, if not more, covid hospital patients were not being treated for covid.
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So reassuring to hear that I'm not alone. In my weaker moments I... it just feels sometimes that giving in would be easier. Just like going to sleep.
I was referring mostly to the UK and Ireland but fair post.dpedin wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:41 pmAgree case numbers are now a meaningless statistic, the dismantling of testing and relaxing of requirement to isolate if infected means we have no track of real case numbers. However we are still in the pandemic phase of covid with local/regional/national peaks and troughs driven by new and emerging variants. Endemic means a steady state of equilibrium without large peaks of disease but we are seeing significant outbreaks in Hong Kong and Denmark at the moment, for example. It is more wishful thinking rather than PH expert opinion. Also becoming endemic doesn't mean covid severity gets lower, it could be exactly the opposite and get higher. Omicron was said to be 'milder' but that was when compared to Delta, it isn't milder than the original or Alpha variants - vaccination is doing the heavy lifting now.CM11 wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:32 am Number of people in hospital testing positive for covid is a meaningless statistic now that it's endemic.
We saw in Jan that up to 50%, if not more, covid hospital patients were not being treated for covid.
It doesn't feel very pandemicy at all here. Hospital numbers crept up without much fanfare and we've all but dismantled our emergency PH team.
Twitter is one of the worst things that's happened to society in human history. It does have some great stuff but the pile ins far outweigh the good.Guy Smiley wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:14 pmSo reassuring to hear that I'm not alone. In my weaker moments I... it just feels sometimes that giving in would be easier. Just like going to sleep.
CM11 wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:25 pmTwitter is one of the worst things that's happened to society in human history. It does have some great stuff but the pile ins far outweigh the good.Guy Smiley wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:14 pmSo reassuring to hear that I'm not alone. In my weaker moments I... it just feels sometimes that giving in would be easier. Just like going to sleep.CM11 wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:02 pm
Twitter are forcing me to sign up to read more than a couple of posts. I'm not giving in. Yet.
I have Scottish folk musicians and Scottish rugby feeds on Twitter and very little else, oh some stuff on trees and guitar making too.
One of the above has a negative impact on my mental well-being.
In Scotland there are currently 1509 people in hospital who have recently tested positive for the virus - 69 more than yesterday, and 283 more than a week ago. This is back up to the numbers seen in mid January. Yes many will be in hospital for other reasons but the same could have been said last week or in January - the number of positives are going up by a good number. Thankfully ICU numbers aren't rising by as much but we need to watch to see for time lag. Currently averaging about 17 deaths a day, last week average was 12. Hopefully this is just a blip due to the relaxation of restrictions and the general 'covid has gone' attitude of many but ...CM11 wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:22 pmI was referring mostly to the UK and Ireland but fair post.dpedin wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:41 pmAgree case numbers are now a meaningless statistic, the dismantling of testing and relaxing of requirement to isolate if infected means we have no track of real case numbers. However we are still in the pandemic phase of covid with local/regional/national peaks and troughs driven by new and emerging variants. Endemic means a steady state of equilibrium without large peaks of disease but we are seeing significant outbreaks in Hong Kong and Denmark at the moment, for example. It is more wishful thinking rather than PH expert opinion. Also becoming endemic doesn't mean covid severity gets lower, it could be exactly the opposite and get higher. Omicron was said to be 'milder' but that was when compared to Delta, it isn't milder than the original or Alpha variants - vaccination is doing the heavy lifting now.CM11 wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:32 am Number of people in hospital testing positive for covid is a meaningless statistic now that it's endemic.
We saw in Jan that up to 50%, if not more, covid hospital patients were not being treated for covid.
It doesn't feel very pandemicy at all here. Hospital numbers crept up without much fanfare and we've all but dismantled our emergency PH team.
I don't want to come across as covid isn't a thing but if you looked at deaths per week for people with the common cold it wouldn't be zero. The ICU figures are telling and it's not clear to the layman how serious covid currently is. There's no impression here that it's a major concern over normal viruses in its current state but I don't know how reliant on vaccines that is and as we know vaccines wane quickly. Is the rise due to that or just everyone has it and are in hospital for unrelated reasons?
Pretty sure there's been a few studies indicating that omicron is intrinsically milder than the original variant.Ymx wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:59 pm Is omicron not milder to the un-vaxed? Really??
Blimey I haven’t thought about covid for such a long time.
Crazy world. Each year seems to try and outdo the last.
Moi auusi. tw@tter has thus far received a strident get fúcked from me and I cannot see that changing.CM11 wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:22 pmThat's my thinking alright!
I know I'll be able to resist posting initially but there'll be some day that I'll be weak and can't help myself and that'll be that.
We chop down treesTichtheid wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:29 pmCM11 wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:25 pmTwitter is one of the worst things that's happened to society in human history. It does have some great stuff but the pile ins far outweigh the good.Guy Smiley wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:14 pm
So reassuring to hear that I'm not alone. In my weaker moments I... it just feels sometimes that giving in would be easier. Just like going to sleep.
I have Scottish folk musicians and Scottish rugby feeds on Twitter and very little else, oh some stuff on trees and guitar making too.
One of the above has a negative impact on my mental well-being.
We make guitars
We go to the lavat'ry
We listen to folk music
Then watch rugby after tea.
Which bit has you reaching for the shotgun?
Got to applaud that effort.MungoMan wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:40 amWe chop down treesTichtheid wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:29 pmCM11 wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:25 pm
Twitter is one of the worst things that's happened to society in human history. It does have some great stuff but the pile ins far outweigh the good.
I have Scottish folk musicians and Scottish rugby feeds on Twitter and very little else, oh some stuff on trees and guitar making too.
One of the above has a negative impact on my mental well-being.
We make guitars
We go to the lavat'ry
We listen to folk music
Then watch rugby after tea.
Which bit has you reaching for the shotgun?
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
How do you keep the random tweets and “suggestions” away though? I set mine up specifically for hill walking and AF beer, then got drawn into rugby, but half the timeline is random and provocative stuff. Can’t keep on top of it spend half my time blocking and saying I’m not interestedTichtheid wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:29 pmCM11 wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:25 pmTwitter is one of the worst things that's happened to society in human history. It does have some great stuff but the pile ins far outweigh the good.Guy Smiley wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:14 pm
So reassuring to hear that I'm not alone. In my weaker moments I... it just feels sometimes that giving in would be easier. Just like going to sleep.
I have Scottish folk musicians and Scottish rugby feeds on Twitter and very little else, oh some stuff on trees and guitar making too.
One of the above has a negative impact on my mental well-being.
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
Set to 'latest tweets' instead of 'home'. That helps massively I've found. Just get the tweets of the people I've followed, in order. Plus ads.Slick wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:31 amHow do you keep the random tweets and “suggestions” away though? I set mine up specifically for hill walking and AF beer, then got drawn into rugby, but half the timeline is random and provocative stuff. Can’t keep on top of it spend half my time blocking and saying I’m not interestedTichtheid wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:29 pmCM11 wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:25 pm
Twitter is one of the worst things that's happened to society in human history. It does have some great stuff but the pile ins far outweigh the good.
I have Scottish folk musicians and Scottish rugby feeds on Twitter and very little else, oh some stuff on trees and guitar making too.
One of the above has a negative impact on my mental well-being.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?