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Posted: **Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:51 pm**

Slick wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:50 pm Off to bed and will get up for an hour or so at 3.30 I think

Get that prostate checked mate.

Posted: **Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:54 pm**

Jock42 wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:51 pm
Slick wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:50 pm Off to bed and will get up for an hour or so at 3.30 I think
Get that prostate checked mate.

it’s the only quiet time I get with the wife and kids

Posted: **Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:01 pm**

sturginho wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:24 pm Seems like nearly all the Mrps were badly wrong

Certainly looks like they were out to an extent going by the Exit poll. Won't be too much time to celebrate for Labour as, whilst a landslide is a landslide, they'll be fending off election narratives from left and right.

Off to bed too. A small human will no doubt wake me up in the night and I'll see how things are going then.

Posted: **Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:16 pm**

That's a scary amount of votes for reform in Sunderland!

Posted: **Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:17 pm**

Raggs wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:16 pm That's a scary amount of votes for reform in Sunderland!

And many more to come.

Feck this, tuning out.

Posted: **Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:22 pm**

I've started on the popcorn....

Posted: **Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:24 pm**

Raggs wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:16 pm That's a scary amount of votes for reform in Sunderland!

Amazing

Posted: **Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:35 pm**

Bloody hell, reform in a solid second place again.

I'm depressed with my country so far.

Posted: **Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:37 pm**

Me too, appalling

Posted: **Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:37 pm**

epwc wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:24 pm
Raggs wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:16 pm That's a scary amount of votes for reform in Sunderland!
Amazing

Not really; as I recall they were first to vote overwhelmingly for Brexit too, so they obviously like taking it up the wrong un from fascists, or else they're just thick as shit & easily manipulated

Posted: **Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:39 pm**

Raggs wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:35 pm Bloody hell, reform in a solid second place again.

I'm depressed with my country so far.

Yeah. These 2 are solid brexity areas though, so maybe that's a factor?

Posted: **Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:42 pm**

But what benefits have they seen from Brexit?

Posted: **Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:42 pm**

Watching Channel 4, Nadine Doris has only spoken once (to have a go at Sunak) and Emily Maitlis immediately had to correct her on claiming Sunak dropped the Windsor framework. Can't imagine she'll be adding much insight to the debate.

Posted: **Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:43 pm**

I thought it was just Bimbo that thinks Brexits brilliant

Posted: **Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:43 pm**

epwc wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:42 pm But what benefits have they seen from Brexit?

Protest that brexit hasn't been brexity enough?

Posted: **Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:50 pm**

I think that the Tories have stayed home given what appears to be a low turnout, boosting both Labour's majority and making Reform look bigger than they are. Reform are also likely to provide Parliament with a badge engineered version of the sort of petty fascist headbangers, racists and general bad eggs that would have been in a Tory backbench Research Group.

Posted: **Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:52 pm**

S/Lt_Phillips wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:43 pm
epwc wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:42 pm But what benefits have they seen from Brexit?
Protest that brexit hasn't been brexity enough?

Strong possibility.

Traitors will probably get mentioned. Not the Brexit I voted for etc.

Posted: **Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:53 pm**

I hope that as they were both Labour holds, that the reform voters were a semi protest vote.

Not sure if I'd be happy to see cons getting ruined entirely by reform splitting their vote clean, or sad at all the reform voters.

Posted: **Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:01 pm**

In Barnsley North, the exit poll predicts that Labour’s Dan Jarvis is likely to lose his seat to a former Reform candidate who was dropped by the party last week over alleged racist comments.

A lot more protest on the way it seems

Posted: **Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:02 pm**

Raggs wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 10:53 pm I hope that as they were both Labour holds, that the reform voters were a semi protest vote.

Not sure if I'd be happy to see cons getting ruined entirely by reform splitting their vote clean, or sad at all the reform voters.

+1

Posted: **Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:08 pm**

Reform have been promising ponies for everyone, and it seems a lot of people have believed them.

Posted: **Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:20 pm**

Raggs wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:08 pm Reform have been promising ponies for everyone, and it seems a lot of people have believed them.

The same mugs that are still waiting for their Brexit unicorns !

Posted: **Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:26 pm**

Buckland loses his seat, which somewhat softens the legal rofession's horror at Chris Grayling being named in Sunak's dissolution peerage list.

Posted: **Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:12 am**

Early results suggesting the exit poll was kind to the Tories, Reform and surging and Labour winning by default

Posted: **Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:13 am**

Neil Kinnock’s reaction to Galloway losing is very enjoyable

Posted: **Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:13 am**

Looking at some constituencies. Reform close to what UKIP had in 2010 and 2015, Lib Dems and Greens their usual, Tories and Labour big change in favour of Labour.

Imagine rocking up and voting UKIP in 2010 and 2015, getting everything you wanted which was total chaos, then voting Reform in 2024.

Posted: **Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:16 am**

IDS has won because Labour managed to split their vote between their candidate and their deposed candidate. Sitting here in the early hours listening to fucking IDS drone on.

Posted: **Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:30 am**

Fucking Farridge. Cunt of a man. Didn’t actually want to win, he’s now got to actually turn up. Can’t be as much of a prick as he was in the European Parliament.

Posted: **Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:30 am**

Corbyn wins big then Frog Face wins big immediately afterwards. Fucking hell.

Posted: **Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:36 am**

Tory gain in Leicester East!

Looks like some ructions within the asian community there

Posted: **Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:49 am**

fishfoodie wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:10 pm
Slick wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:05 pm Much as I’d like to see it, I don’t think there is any way SNP are finishing on 10
The Times podcast earlier were making the point that more or less every seat in Scotland is a marginal, so I share your skepticism

I wouldn't be at all surprised if these numbers are +-20% off, as I'm not sure how robust the pollsters are in the face of a lot of tactical voting

Looks like we were both wrong, absolutely smashed

Posted: **Fri Jul 05, 2024 3:00 am**

Slick wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:49 am
fishfoodie wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:10 pm
Slick wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:05 pm Much as I’d like to see it, I don’t think there is any way SNP are finishing on 10
The Times podcast earlier were making the point that more or less every seat in Scotland is a marginal, so I share your skepticism

I wouldn't be at all surprised if these numbers are +-20% off, as I'm not sure how robust the pollsters are in the face of a lot of tactical voting
Looks like we were both wrong, absolutely smashed

BBC now revised its forecast for the SNP down to 6!

(And also revised Reform down to 4 from 13. Still 4 too many.)

Posted: **Fri Jul 05, 2024 3:02 am**

SNP hold Dundee, the YES City, by just 600 . Labour take the first Glasgow seat of the night off SNP

Posted: **Fri Jul 05, 2024 3:03 am**

S/Lt_Phillips wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 3:00 am
Slick wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:49 am
fishfoodie wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:10 pm

The Times podcast earlier were making the point that more or less every seat in Scotland is a marginal, so I share your skepticism

I wouldn't be at all surprised if these numbers are +-20% off, as I'm not sure how robust the pollsters are in the face of a lot of tactical voting
Looks like we were both wrong, absolutely smashed
BBC now revised its forecast for the SNP down to 6!

(And also revised Reform down to 4 from 13. Still 4 too many.)

Absolutely unbelievable, no one saw this coming. Swinney now on BBC Scotland

Posted: **Fri Jul 05, 2024 3:07 am**

IDS is an odious individual. Absolutely no grace or humility.

Posted: **Fri Jul 05, 2024 3:09 am**

Mordant gone. Along with Shapps and Fabricant. And Coffey. And Mercer.

Posted: **Fri Jul 05, 2024 3:42 am**

Fuck you Clacton.

Posted: **Fri Jul 05, 2024 3:46 am**

Raggs wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:08 pm Reform have been promising ponies for everyone, and it seems a lot of people have believed them.

It's always the way.

What happens next is they usually can't keep coherency and split into Independents

Posted: **Fri Jul 05, 2024 3:59 am**

What the fuck are 700 people on Lewis doing voting for Refirm!

Mogg gone

Posted: **Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:07 am**

I'm fairly sure Corbyn is now the father of the House and Abbott is the mother of the House. The parents of UK democracy.

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