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Rugby Championship Match Thread - Sat 2nd - SA v NZ / Arg v Aus
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average joe
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The Boks is a forwards orientated team, they aim to beat teams into submission with set piece and defence. This does not always work but that's their way. The balance only comes out when they've done the ground work. For me we won the WC final when England was camping our line, pressing hard and could not get through. I even said out load when the ref blew the penalty "take your fokon three points cause that's all you're going to fokon get" and I knew we were going to win that game right there.Grandpa wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:46 am
No need to play like NZ.... how SA played in the WC Final was perfect... a nice balance between tight and loose... and SA have won like that before... in a balanced way... it seems a waste of talent not to do it more often.. I am sure SA would win more if they did... just as good NZ teams aren't all about running rugby... the best Kiwi sides had balance too... the current one is still learning...
Two rugby adages rings true with the Boks "You earn the right to go wide" and “Forwards win matches and backs decide by how much”
They'll play differently when they play the AB's. They always do.
Exactly right... and the All Blacks are at their best when they follow that mantra too...average joe wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:47 pmThe Boks is a forwards orientated team, they aim to beat teams into submission with set piece and defence. This does not always work but that's their way. The balance only comes out when they've done the ground work. For me we won the WC final when England was camping our line, pressing hard and could not get through. I even said out load when the ref blew the penalty "take your fokon three points cause that's all you're going to fokon get" and I knew we were going to win that game right there.Grandpa wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:46 am
No need to play like NZ.... how SA played in the WC Final was perfect... a nice balance between tight and loose... and SA have won like that before... in a balanced way... it seems a waste of talent not to do it more often.. I am sure SA would win more if they did... just as good NZ teams aren't all about running rugby... the best Kiwi sides had balance too... the current one is still learning...
Two rugby adages rings true with the Boks "You earn the right to go wide" and “Forwards win matches and backs decide by how much”
They'll play differently when they play the AB's. They always do.
When you say the Boks will play differently against the All Blacks... do you mean they'll not rely on box kicks and will keep the ball in hand more?
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FalseBayFC
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Most of our victories against the All Blacks have come from playing outside our comfort zone. You have to score tries to beat the AB's. Marius Joubert's hat trick. 1998 Tri-nations. The All Blacks normally have the engine to suck up 60 minutes of collisions and then despatch us.average joe wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:47 pmThe Boks is a forwards orientated team, they aim to beat teams into submission with set piece and defence. This does not always work but that's their way. The balance only comes out when they've done the ground work. For me we won the WC final when England was camping our line, pressing hard and could not get through. I even said out load when the ref blew the penalty "take your fokon three points cause that's all you're going to fokon get" and I knew we were going to win that game right there.Grandpa wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:46 am
No need to play like NZ.... how SA played in the WC Final was perfect... a nice balance between tight and loose... and SA have won like that before... in a balanced way... it seems a waste of talent not to do it more often.. I am sure SA would win more if they did... just as good NZ teams aren't all about running rugby... the best Kiwi sides had balance too... the current one is still learning...
Two rugby adages rings true with the Boks "You earn the right to go wide" and “Forwards win matches and backs decide by how much”
They'll play differently when they play the AB's. They always do.
This is a relatively green All Black team. We should be able to beat them at least once with the caps and talent we have. If we don't it will be down to the conservatism of Rassieball. I'd rather see us deny the Kiwis possession. We can't afford to rely on our defence to get us home against them.
The best Bok performances I see are usually against the All Blacks... 2004 one of your centres got a hat-trick I think, or maybe a double? Mehrtens last ever test match or close to it... but it was based on power forwards and electric backs making the most of chances created by the forwards.... and I always wonder.. why don't they always play like that? Wipe any team off the planet... but for some reason it's like a precious antique, only brought out for special occasions.. which is a shame...FalseBayFC wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:41 pmMost of our victories against the All Blacks have come from playing outside our comfort zone. You have to score tries to beat the AB's. Marius Joubert's hat trick. 1998 Tri-nations. The All Blacks normally have the engine to suck up 60 minutes of collisions and then despatch us.average joe wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:47 pmThe Boks is a forwards orientated team, they aim to beat teams into submission with set piece and defence. This does not always work but that's their way. The balance only comes out when they've done the ground work. For me we won the WC final when England was camping our line, pressing hard and could not get through. I even said out load when the ref blew the penalty "take your fokon three points cause that's all you're going to fokon get" and I knew we were going to win that game right there.Grandpa wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:46 am
No need to play like NZ.... how SA played in the WC Final was perfect... a nice balance between tight and loose... and SA have won like that before... in a balanced way... it seems a waste of talent not to do it more often.. I am sure SA would win more if they did... just as good NZ teams aren't all about running rugby... the best Kiwi sides had balance too... the current one is still learning...
Two rugby adages rings true with the Boks "You earn the right to go wide" and “Forwards win matches and backs decide by how much”
They'll play differently when they play the AB's. They always do.
This is a relatively green All Black team. We should be able to beat them at least once with the caps and talent we have. If we don't it will be down to the conservatism of Rassieball. I'd rather see us deny the Kiwis possession. We can't afford to rely on our defence to get us home against them.
It's called Jakeball 2007Grandpa wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:00 pmThe best Bok performances I see are usually against the All Blacks... 2004 one of your centres got a hat-trick I think, or maybe a double? Mehrtens last ever test match or close to it... but it was based on power forwards and electric backs making the most of chances created by the forwards.... and I always wonder.. why don't they always play like that? Wipe any team off the planet... but for some reason it's like a precious antique, only brought out for special occasions.. which is a shame...FalseBayFC wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:41 pmMost of our victories against the All Blacks have come from playing outside our comfort zone. You have to score tries to beat the AB's. Marius Joubert's hat trick. 1998 Tri-nations. The All Blacks normally have the engine to suck up 60 minutes of collisions and then despatch us.average joe wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:47 pm
The Boks is a forwards orientated team, they aim to beat teams into submission with set piece and defence. This does not always work but that's their way. The balance only comes out when they've done the ground work. For me we won the WC final when England was camping our line, pressing hard and could not get through. I even said out load when the ref blew the penalty "take your fokon three points cause that's all you're going to fokon get" and I knew we were going to win that game right there.
Two rugby adages rings true with the Boks "You earn the right to go wide" and “Forwards win matches and backs decide by how much”
They'll play differently when they play the AB's. They always do.
This is a relatively green All Black team. We should be able to beat them at least once with the caps and talent we have. If we don't it will be down to the conservatism of Rassieball. I'd rather see us deny the Kiwis possession. We can't afford to rely on our defence to get us home against them.
Argentina: 15 Juan Cruz Mallia, 14 Santiago Cordero, 13 Lucio Cinti, 12 Santiago Chocobares, 11 Emiliano Boffelli, 10 Santiago Carreras, 9 Gonzalo Bertranou; 1 Facundo Gigena, 2 Julian Montoya, 3 Santiago Medrano, 4 Matias Alemanno, 5 Tomas Lavanini, 6 Juan Martin Gonzalez, 7 Marcos Kremer, 8 Pablo Matera.
Replacements: 16 Santiago Socino, 17 Carlos Muzzio, 18 Enrique Pieretto, 19 Guido Petti, 20 Tomas Lezana, 21 Gonzalo Garcia, 22 Domingo Miotti, 23 Matias Moroni.
Replacements: 16 Santiago Socino, 17 Carlos Muzzio, 18 Enrique Pieretto, 19 Guido Petti, 20 Tomas Lezana, 21 Gonzalo Garcia, 22 Domingo Miotti, 23 Matias Moroni.
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OomStruisbaai
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The closer the test , the more thirsty. I like the Bok underdog tag. Maybe another loss will suit them best for that 100th test.
100th Test is lame. No-one else cares except you.OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:44 pm The closer the test , the more thirsty. I like the Bok underdog tag. Maybe another loss will suit them best for that 100th test.
It wasn't that day.... SA ran the All Blacks ragged...Sards wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:23 pmIt's called Jakeball 2007Grandpa wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:00 pmThe best Bok performances I see are usually against the All Blacks... 2004 one of your centres got a hat-trick I think, or maybe a double? Mehrtens last ever test match or close to it... but it was based on power forwards and electric backs making the most of chances created by the forwards.... and I always wonder.. why don't they always play like that? Wipe any team off the planet... but for some reason it's like a precious antique, only brought out for special occasions.. which is a shame...FalseBayFC wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:41 pm
Most of our victories against the All Blacks have come from playing outside our comfort zone. You have to score tries to beat the AB's. Marius Joubert's hat trick. 1998 Tri-nations. The All Blacks normally have the engine to suck up 60 minutes of collisions and then despatch us.
This is a relatively green All Black team. We should be able to beat them at least once with the caps and talent we have. If we don't it will be down to the conservatism of Rassieball. I'd rather see us deny the Kiwis possession. We can't afford to rely on our defence to get us home against them.
NZ to look a bit messy, but hopefully come right in the second half... I hope DMac has a good game at first five... to shut up the doubters...Gumboot wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:59 pm Game day. Looking forward to seeing how this shiny new ABs side performs.
Also can't wait to see how the wounded Boks respond against a Wobblies side no doubt brimming with confidence after last week.
SA will be the more motivated team tomorrow and will win by 10 to 15... hopefully with some enterprising rugby...
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Biltong and droe wors bought, beers in the fridge, going out for a big breakfast with my son in about 90 minutes and then of to watch the games with 2 buddies, with a braai to end of this Saturday.
Another hard, hard day in South Africa.
Another hard, hard day in South Africa.
Springboks, Stormers and WP supporter.
It is my wife's birthday.handyman wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:17 am Biltong and droe wors bought, beers in the fridge, going out for a big breakfast with my son in about 90 minutes and then of to watch the games with 2 buddies, with a braai to end of this Saturday.
Another hard, hard day in South Africa.
Butter grilled Asparagus
Medium poached Eggs
Hollandaise
Crispy Pancetta
Durbanville Hills Honeysuckle
Then rugby
A bit fancier than my Spur Unreal Breakfast!Chilli wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:49 amIt is my wife's birthday.handyman wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:17 am Biltong and droe wors bought, beers in the fridge, going out for a big breakfast with my son in about 90 minutes and then of to watch the games with 2 buddies, with a braai to end of this Saturday.
Another hard, hard day in South Africa.
Butter grilled Asparagus
Medium poached Eggs
Hollandaise
Crispy Pancetta
Durbanville Hills Honeysuckle
Then rugby
Souns good boet, enjoy.
Springboks, Stormers and WP supporter.
You too.handyman wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:58 amA bit fancier than my Spur Unreal Breakfast!Chilli wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:49 amIt is my wife's birthday.handyman wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:17 am Biltong and droe wors bought, beers in the fridge, going out for a big breakfast with my son in about 90 minutes and then of to watch the games with 2 buddies, with a braai to end of this Saturday.
Another hard, hard day in South Africa.
Butter grilled Asparagus
Medium poached Eggs
Hollandaise
Crispy Pancetta
Durbanville Hills Honeysuckle
Then rugby
Souns good boet, enjoy.
You will beat Argentina
by more than 20, but we will beat Australia 
Hope both teams put on a show whatever the result.Chilli wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:06 amYou will beat Argentinaby more than 20, but we will beat Australia
