The Official English Rugby Thread
They do, lovely touchTichtheid wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 2:52 pm Do the officials' shirts have Doddie Weir tartan on them?
It kind of looks like it, though it's not quite loud enough
Edit: I’d seen somewhere that Luke Pierce had personally asked for it, but don’t know
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All the money you made will never buy back your soul
To be fair Sarries along with covid played a large role in the financial problems that beset English rugby with their antics and threats around the salary cap. I have a lot of respect for McCall and the sarries coaching team but zero respect for club but we should congratulate sarries for their first title without an asterisk next to it.
It's the team that they built financially doping to the point that the league is in a massive crisis. They should've been richmonded. To see them play acting around the non try just compiles their egregious behaviour in every facet of the game. They're cunts.
Brazil wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 4:29 pmIt's the team that they built financially doping to the point that the league is in a massive crisis. They should've been richmonded. To see them play acting around the non try just compiles their egregious behaviour in every facet of the game. They're cunts.
Comments like this just make winning so much sweeter.

Teams going bust from trying to compete with a team that cheats.Brazil wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 4:29 pmIt's the team that they built financially doping to the point that the league is in a massive crisis. They should've been richmonded. To see them play acting around the non try just compiles their egregious behaviour in every facet of the game. They're cunts.
Cünts of a feather stick together.Kawazaki wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 6:14 pmBrazil wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 4:29 pmIt's the team that they built financially doping to the point that the league is in a massive crisis. They should've been richmonded. To see them play acting around the non try just compiles their egregious behaviour in every facet of the game. They're cunts.
Comments like this just make winning so much sweeter.
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Old enough to remember Brazil pointing out that complaining about a forward pass in a tight game was shocking sore loser behaviour in the far off realm that was a couple of months ago.
Hard to say anything but that the best team over the season won. Sarries have added a huge amount to their game in attack, may lack quite the punch of some of the sides in the past but very much worthy winners. Caught the last 20 on my phone, seemed like a serious game which I felt we were on the verge of losing for a bit. Sale deserve plenty of credit for the squad they’ve built and how far they’ve come, and hopefully it isn’t a flash in the pan.
Good season all round on the pitch, utter disaster off it.
Hard to say anything but that the best team over the season won. Sarries have added a huge amount to their game in attack, may lack quite the punch of some of the sides in the past but very much worthy winners. Caught the last 20 on my phone, seemed like a serious game which I felt we were on the verge of losing for a bit. Sale deserve plenty of credit for the squad they’ve built and how far they’ve come, and hopefully it isn’t a flash in the pan.
Good season all round on the pitch, utter disaster off it.
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages, What feats he did that day
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Last decade of attendances (pinched from reddit):Slick wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 2:53 pm Did they not used to sell this out easily? I’m sure the 2 or 3 I’ve been to were packed
22/23 61,875
21/22 72,748
20/21 10,000 (covid)
19/20 0 (covid)
18/19 75,329
17/18 75,128
16/17 79,657
15/16 77,109
14/15 80,589
13/14 81,193
12/13 81,703
This year I think you can probably say cost of living crisis and the feel bad factor around English rugby have played a part, but Sale and Sarries are neither particularly well supported nor teams with whom neutrals often align.
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Twickenham is an absolutely horrendous day out on the wallet, really hard to justify more than once a yearsockwithaticket wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 1:41 pmLast decade of attendances (pinched from reddit):Slick wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 2:53 pm Did they not used to sell this out easily? I’m sure the 2 or 3 I’ve been to were packed
22/23 61,875
21/22 72,748
20/21 10,000 (covid)
19/20 0 (covid)
18/19 75,329
17/18 75,128
16/17 79,657
15/16 77,109
14/15 80,589
13/14 81,193
12/13 81,703
This year I think you can probably say cost of living crisis and the feel bad factor around English rugby have played a part, but Sale and Sarries are neither particularly well supported nor teams with whom neutrals often align.
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages, What feats he did that day
Word. £13.50 for a shit cheese burger. Daylight robbery.Paddington Bear wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 3:19 pmTwickenham is an absolutely horrendous day out on the wallet, really hard to justify more than once a yearsockwithaticket wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 1:41 pmLast decade of attendances (pinched from reddit):Slick wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 2:53 pm Did they not used to sell this out easily? I’m sure the 2 or 3 I’ve been to were packed
22/23 61,875
21/22 72,748
20/21 10,000 (covid)
19/20 0 (covid)
18/19 75,329
17/18 75,128
16/17 79,657
15/16 77,109
14/15 80,589
13/14 81,193
12/13 81,703
This year I think you can probably say cost of living crisis and the feel bad factor around English rugby have played a part, but Sale and Sarries are neither particularly well supported nor teams with whom neutrals often align.
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Or a meal out in London prices if you decide to go to a restaurant for edible food.
The Saffer brai in the front garden of one of the houses in Rugby Rd just outside the stadiumSandstorm wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 7:29 pmWord. £13.50 for a shit cheese burger. Daylight robbery.Paddington Bear wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 3:19 pmTwickenham is an absolutely horrendous day out on the wallet, really hard to justify more than once a yearsockwithaticket wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 1:41 pm
Last decade of attendances (pinched from reddit):
22/23 61,875
21/22 72,748
20/21 10,000 (covid)
19/20 0 (covid)
18/19 75,329
17/18 75,128
16/17 79,657
15/16 77,109
14/15 80,589
13/14 81,193
12/13 81,703
This year I think you can probably say cost of living crisis and the feel bad factor around English rugby have played a part, but Sale and Sarries are neither particularly well supported nor teams with whom neutrals often align.
Hot beef rolls and boerwors rolls under a tenner
Bloody good and always there on match day
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Anyone watch the County Championship final Kent v Lancs? Just watched the full match replay on YT and it was a little surprisingly very good game with Lancs taking a big lead before being hauled back and the match went right to the wire
Still hoping it's not going to happen though deadline approaching fast
Must be so difficult for all the players and other employees.
Must be so difficult for all the players and other employees.
https://12ft.io/proxy?ref=&q=https:// ... earson/Telegraph Sport understands that England wing Henry Arundell and World Cup hopeful Tom Pearson have both received at least four expressions of interest from various Premiership sides. Arundell, the explosive 20-year-old who made his first Test start against Ireland during the recent Six Nations, is believed to have provisional offers from France, with multiple Top 14 clubs in the running, as well as South Africa.
Pearson was voted as the Rugby Players’ Association young player of the year in recognition of his performances as Irish finished fifth in the Premiership. The all-action back-rower, and club captain Matt Rogerson, have been sounded out by Steve Borthwick and are in contention for England’s training camps this summer.
That pair could also benefit from the fact that Northampton Saints are in the market for a back-five forward after Lukhan Salakaia-Loto left for Australia last week. Harlequins and Bath are two other clubs said to be “respectfully keeping tabs on the situation” at Irish more generally.
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It's bloody awful - if the worst does happen the cream of the crop will no doubt pick up a decent gig, even if it's a major unplanned upheaval in their lives, but the club players and backroom are going to be left high and dry.SaintK wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 11:38 am Still hoping it's not going to happen though deadline approaching fast
Must be so difficult for all the players and other employees.https://12ft.io/proxy?ref=&q=https:// ... earson/Telegraph Sport understands that England wing Henry Arundell and World Cup hopeful Tom Pearson have both received at least four expressions of interest from various Premiership sides. Arundell, the explosive 20-year-old who made his first Test start against Ireland during the recent Six Nations, is believed to have provisional offers from France, with multiple Top 14 clubs in the running, as well as South Africa.
Pearson was voted as the Rugby Players’ Association young player of the year in recognition of his performances as Irish finished fifth in the Premiership. The all-action back-rower, and club captain Matt Rogerson, have been sounded out by Steve Borthwick and are in contention for England’s training camps this summer.
That pair could also benefit from the fact that Northampton Saints are in the market for a back-five forward after Lukhan Salakaia-Loto left for Australia last week. Harlequins and Bath are two other clubs said to be “respectfully keeping tabs on the situation” at Irish more generally.
With Worcester, Wasps and Irish goingto the wall - that's nearly a 25% reduction in premiership players, coaches and other backroom staff - lots of them will have to find employment away from Rugby - tough times.inactionman wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 11:47 amIt's bloody awful - if the worst does happen the cream of the crop will no doubt pick up a decent gig, even if it's a major unplanned upheaval in their lives, but the club players and backroom are going to be left high and dry.SaintK wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 11:38 am Still hoping it's not going to happen though deadline approaching fast
Must be so difficult for all the players and other employees.https://12ft.io/proxy?ref=&q=https:// ... earson/Telegraph Sport understands that England wing Henry Arundell and World Cup hopeful Tom Pearson have both received at least four expressions of interest from various Premiership sides. Arundell, the explosive 20-year-old who made his first Test start against Ireland during the recent Six Nations, is believed to have provisional offers from France, with multiple Top 14 clubs in the running, as well as South Africa.
Pearson was voted as the Rugby Players’ Association young player of the year in recognition of his performances as Irish finished fifth in the Premiership. The all-action back-rower, and club captain Matt Rogerson, have been sounded out by Steve Borthwick and are in contention for England’s training camps this summer.
That pair could also benefit from the fact that Northampton Saints are in the market for a back-five forward after Lukhan Salakaia-Loto left for Australia last week. Harlequins and Bath are two other clubs said to be “respectfully keeping tabs on the situation” at Irish more generally.
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The vultures are circling.Harlequins and Bath are two other clubs said to be “respectfully keeping tabs on the situation” at Irish more generally.
But with respect. No eating bits whilst Irish are still alive.
Sounds like they are getting a one week's reprieve - which, I assume, would only be given if there were serious signs that a new onership deal was a realistic probability - which would be great news.Hal Jordan wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 12:40 pmThe vultures are circling.Harlequins and Bath are two other clubs said to be “respectfully keeping tabs on the situation” at Irish more generally.
But with respect. No eating bits whilst Irish are still alive.
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This seems to be the situation. No extension actually granted yet. But one will be if:Ovals wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:16 pmSounds like they are getting a one week's reprieve - which, I assume, would only be given if there were serious signs that a new onership deal was a realistic probability - which would be great news.Hal Jordan wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 12:40 pmThe vultures are circling.Harlequins and Bath are two other clubs said to be “respectfully keeping tabs on the situation” at Irish more generally.
But with respect. No eating bits whilst Irish are still alive.
Crossan paying wages is realistic. Documents actually being received today, is something I wouldn't bet my house on.