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Will the Cheetahs play for a win again tomorrow or will they use the game to bred young ones like the other big franchises?
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:50 am Will the Cheetahs play for a win again tomorrow or will they use the game to bred young ones like the other big franchises?
The Cheetahs don't have the luxury of the big money bag franchises like the Stormers.
The Cheetahs only have enough players for 1 team.
The Stormers have so much money that they can afford to keep on paying players like "the best side stepper in the world" and not have him play. They have so much money they can buy players like Von Wolhuter back from France. They have so much money that they can tell an investor with R100 million to voetsek. They have so much money that they don't refurbish their stadium, the just abandon it and move to a new one.

How can the Cheetahs compete against a super Union like that?
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Any news yet on what the Cheetahs are going to be doing for their next competition?
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Chilli wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:17 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:50 am Will the Cheetahs play for a win again tomorrow or will they use the game to bred young ones like the other big franchises?
The Cheetahs don't have the luxury of the big money bag franchises like the Stormers.
The Cheetahs only have enough players for 1 team.
The Stormers have so much money that they can afford to keep on paying players like "the best side stepper in the world" and not have him play. They have so much money they can buy players like Von Wolhuter back from France. They have so much money that they can tell an investor with R100 million to voetsek. They have so much money that they don't refurbish their stadium, the just abandon it and move to a new one.

How can the Cheetahs compete against a super Union like that?
Good post. I really feel for the Cheetahs, but like always, the youngsters will make sure they are there or thereabouts. I just wish they can get a proper management in place.
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assfly wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:25 am Any news yet on what the Cheetahs are going to be doing for their next competition?
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handyman wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:39 am
Chilli wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:17 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:50 am Will the Cheetahs play for a win again tomorrow or will they use the game to bred young ones like the other big franchises?
The Cheetahs don't have the luxury of the big money bag franchises like the Stormers.
The Cheetahs only have enough players for 1 team.
The Stormers have so much money that they can afford to keep on paying players like "the best side stepper in the world" and not have him play. They have so much money they can buy players like Von Wolhuter back from France. They have so much money that they can tell an investor with R100 million to voetsek. They have so much money that they don't refurbish their stadium, the just abandon it and move to a new one.

How can the Cheetahs compete against a super Union like that?
Good post. I really feel for the Cheetahs, but like always, the youngsters will make sure they are there or thereabouts. I just wish they can get a proper management in place.
Agreed. Just not the Stormers type management.
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Chilli wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:47 am
handyman wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:39 am
Chilli wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:17 am

The Cheetahs don't have the luxury of the big money bag franchises like the Stormers.
The Cheetahs only have enough players for 1 team.
The Stormers have so much money that they can afford to keep on paying players like "the best side stepper in the world" and not have him play. They have so much money they can buy players like Von Wolhuter back from France. They have so much money that they can tell an investor with R100 million to voetsek. They have so much money that they don't refurbish their stadium, the just abandon it and move to a new one.

How can the Cheetahs compete against a super Union like that?
Good post. I really feel for the Cheetahs, but like always, the youngsters will make sure they are there or thereabouts. I just wish they can get a proper management in place.
Agreed. Just not the Stormers type management.
I know we are in the news a lot getting bad press, but surely you don't get to be the biggest and best union in SA with poor management?
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handyman wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:04 am
Chilli wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:47 am
handyman wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:39 am

Good post. I really feel for the Cheetahs, but like always, the youngsters will make sure they are there or thereabouts. I just wish they can get a proper management in place.
Agreed. Just not the Stormers type management.
I know we are in the news a lot getting bad press, but surely you don't get to be the biggest and best union in SA with poor management?
Perhaps you became the biggest and baddest union in SA despite your poor management?
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Chilli wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:16 am
handyman wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:04 am
Chilli wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:47 am
Agreed. Just not the Stormers type management.
I know we are in the news a lot getting bad press, but surely you don't get to be the biggest and best union in SA with poor management?
Perhaps you became the biggest and baddest union in SA despite your poor management?
Not sure. I think if our management is as bad as you say it is, then our coaches and players are bloody fantastic to do as well as we have.
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handyman wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:44 am
Chilli wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:16 am
handyman wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:04 am

I know we are in the news a lot getting bad press, but surely you don't get to be the biggest and best union in SA with poor management?
Perhaps you became the biggest and baddest union in SA despite your poor management?
Not sure. I think if our management is as bad as you say it is, then our coaches and players are bloody fantastic to do as well as we have.
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Chilli wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:17 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:50 am Will the Cheetahs play for a win again tomorrow or will they use the game to bred young ones like the other big franchises?
The Cheetahs don't have the luxury of the big money bag franchises like the Stormers.
The Cheetahs only have enough players for 1 team.
The Stormers have so much money that they can afford to keep on paying players like "the best side stepper in the world" and not have him play. They have so much money they can buy players like Von Wolhuter back from France. They have so much money that they can tell an investor with R100 million to voetsek. They have so much money that they don't refurbish their stadium, the just abandon it and move to a new one.

How can the Cheetahs compete against a super Union like that?
Cheetahs got their coach and most players from WP. So you should be rather thankfull iso disrespectfull. Will awies give the younger ones an oppertunity? He must think long term iso overusing Springbokke like Frans Steyn. Beating the Sharks in this competition means vokol.
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Chilli and Sards is so gepla met WP. Vok me. Get a life.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:07 am Chilli and Sards is so gepla met WP. Vok me. Get a life.
Oom, die hoogste bome vang die meeste wind. Dis maar die kruis wat ons moet dra as WP ondersteuners. Almal gun vir ons.
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handyman wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:30 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:07 am Chilli and Sards is so gepla met WP. Vok me. Get a life.
Oom, die hoogste bome vang die meeste wind. Dis maar die kruis wat ons moet dra as WP ondersteuners. Almal gun vir ons.
Imagine if PSDT was fit and we'd won the Currie Cup. :eek:
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:06 am
Chilli wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:17 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:50 am Will the Cheetahs play for a win again tomorrow or will they use the game to bred young ones like the other big franchises?
The Cheetahs don't have the luxury of the big money bag franchises like the Stormers.
The Cheetahs only have enough players for 1 team.
The Stormers have so much money that they can afford to keep on paying players like "the best side stepper in the world" and not have him play. They have so much money they can buy players like Von Wolhuter back from France. They have so much money that they can tell an investor with R100 million to voetsek. They have so much money that they don't refurbish their stadium, the just abandon it and move to a new one.

How can the Cheetahs compete against a super Union like that?
Cheetahs got their coach and most players from WP. So you should be rather thankfull iso disrespectfull. Will awies give the younger ones an oppertunity? He must think long term iso overusing Springbokke like Frans Steyn. Beating the Sharks in this competition means vokol.
Oom. He is hardly poached from the WP. He is Boland, Freestate and Griquas with a bit of Stomps.
Now the "premier posters" are telling us that we HAVE to respect the WP🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
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Sharks putting out a similar team for tomorrow night

I assume that we'll start playing our best XV after this match, as arguably they need more game time than the youngsters.
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Sandstorm wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:58 am
handyman wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:30 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:07 am Chilli and Sards is so gepla met WP. Vok me. Get a life.
Oom, die hoogste bome vang die meeste wind. Dis maar die kruis wat ons moet dra as WP ondersteuners. Almal gun vir ons.
Imagine if PSDT was fit and we'd won the Currie Cup. :eek:
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People are getting too worked up about a few practice games. This is to get the players fit. For all the trolls to run out of ammo now before the real rugby starts is silly.

As an elite poster, I know better and will wait for the real rugby to start.
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Chilli wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:49 am
Cheetahs: 15 Clayton Blommetjies, 14 Malcolm Jaer, 13 Dries Swanepoel, 12 Frans Steyn, 11 Rosko Specman, 10 Reinhardt Fortuin, 9 Ruan Pienaar (captain), 8 Aidon Davis, 7 George Cronje, 6 Andisa Ntsila, 5 Rynier Bernardo, 4 Carl Wegner, 3 Khutha Mchunu, 2 Wilmar Arnoldi, 1 Cameron Dawson
Replacements: 16 Marnus van der Merwe, 17 Conraad van Vuuren, 18 Aranos Coetzee, 19 Jean Droste, 20 Oupa Mohoje, 21 Tian Meyer, 22 Brandon Thomson, 23 Chris Smit
Sharks: 15 Aphelele Fassi, 14 Thaakir Abrahams, 13 Jeremy Ward (captain), 12 Murray Koster, 11 Anthony Volmink, 10 Jordan Chait, 9 Grant Williams, 8 Phepsi Buthelezi, 7 Thembelani Bholi, 6 James Venter, 5 Hyron Andrews, 4 JJ van der Mescht, 3 John-Hubert Meyer, 2 Kerron van Vuuren, 1 Khwezi Mona.
Subs: 16 Fez Mbatha, 17 Ntuthuko Mchunu, 18 Michael Kumbirai, 19 Reniel Hugo, 20 Mpilo Gumede, 21 Jaden Hendrikse, 22 Manie Libbok, 23 Werner Kok.


Cheetahs definitely want to go for the win. Sharks A lost by 30 last time, this time the Cheetahs will put 50 on them.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:20 pm
Chilli wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:49 am
Cheetahs: 15 Clayton Blommetjies, 14 Malcolm Jaer, 13 Dries Swanepoel, 12 Frans Steyn, 11 Rosko Specman, 10 Reinhardt Fortuin, 9 Ruan Pienaar (captain), 8 Aidon Davis, 7 George Cronje, 6 Andisa Ntsila, 5 Rynier Bernardo, 4 Carl Wegner, 3 Khutha Mchunu, 2 Wilmar Arnoldi, 1 Cameron Dawson
Replacements: 16 Marnus van der Merwe, 17 Conraad van Vuuren, 18 Aranos Coetzee, 19 Jean Droste, 20 Oupa Mohoje, 21 Tian Meyer, 22 Brandon Thomson, 23 Chris Smit
Sharks: 15 Aphelele Fassi, 14 Thaakir Abrahams, 13 Jeremy Ward (captain), 12 Murray Koster, 11 Anthony Volmink, 10 Jordan Chait, 9 Grant Williams, 8 Phepsi Buthelezi, 7 Thembelani Bholi, 6 James Venter, 5 Hyron Andrews, 4 JJ van der Mescht, 3 John-Hubert Meyer, 2 Kerron van Vuuren, 1 Khwezi Mona.
Subs: 16 Fez Mbatha, 17 Ntuthuko Mchunu, 18 Michael Kumbirai, 19 Reniel Hugo, 20 Mpilo Gumede, 21 Jaden Hendrikse, 22 Manie Libbok, 23 Werner Kok.


Cheetahs definitely want to go for the win. Sharks A lost by 30 last time, this time the Cheetahs will put 50 on them.
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handyman wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:53 am People are getting too worked up about a few practice games. This is to get the players fit. For all the trolls to run out of ammo now before the real rugby starts is silly.

As an elite poster, I know better and will wait for the real rugby to start.
Apologies for calling you a Premier Poster, when I should have used the term elite
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Chilli wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:26 pm
handyman wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:53 am People are getting too worked up about a few practice games. This is to get the players fit. For all the trolls to run out of ammo now before the real rugby starts is silly.

As an elite poster, I know better and will wait for the real rugby to start.
Apologies for calling you a Premier Poster, when I should have used the term elite
All good boet :thumbup:
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assfly wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:26 am Sharks putting out a similar team for tomorrow night

I assume that we'll start playing our best XV after this match, as arguably they need more game time than the youngsters.
It's the youngsters....we just acquired a strong new front row. That's the exciting news. These matches are meaningless so they give the lighties a run on and a few players like Pepsi and Fassi who need game time. Chait gets to play at 10 and you will probably see a new number 10 next week. The real number 1 side is practicing for the next tournament. I am sorry but the only one that benefits from these matches are the coaching staff. And the medical staff watching certain players fitness. For us supporters, we want to see the big team in action against the NH...with a strengthened from row we are going to make one hell of a challenge
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Sards wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:35 pm
assfly wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:26 am Sharks putting out a similar team for tomorrow night

I assume that we'll start playing our best XV after this match, as arguably they need more game time than the youngsters.
It's the youngsters....we just acquired a strong new front row. That's the exciting news. These matches are meaningless so they give the lighties a run on and a few players like Pepsi and Fassi who need game time. Chait gets to play at 10 and you will probably see a new number 10 next week. The real number 1 side is practicing for the next tournament. I am sorry but the only one that benefits from these matches are the coaching staff. And the medical staff watching certain players fitness. For us supporters, we want to see the big team in action against the NH...with a strengthened from row we are going to make one hell of a challenge
I agree re the fact that this is only warm ups, the results are meaningless.
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handyman wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:45 pm
I agree re the fact that this is only warm ups, the results are meaningless.
Quite right
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handyman wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:45 pm
Sards wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:35 pm
assfly wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:26 am Sharks putting out a similar team for tomorrow night

I assume that we'll start playing our best XV after this match, as arguably they need more game time than the youngsters.
It's the youngsters....we just acquired a strong new front row. That's the exciting news. These matches are meaningless so they give the lighties a run on and a few players like Pepsi and Fassi who need game time. Chait gets to play at 10 and you will probably see a new number 10 next week. The real number 1 side is practicing for the next tournament. I am sorry but the only one that benefits from these matches are the coaching staff. And the medical staff watching certain players fitness. For us supporters, we want to see the big team in action against the NH...with a strengthened from row we are going to make one hell of a challenge
I agree re the fact that this is only warm ups, the results are meaningless.
Its like watching school rugby as a curtain raiser before a Superrugby match. You have a choice. Either braai and kuier during that time in preparation for the main game or watch it out of boredom ... it is a great opportunity however for teams with issues to try combinations out.
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Sards wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:41 am
assfly wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:26 am I see all the big boys won on the first weekend, as expected.

EP reinforcing my position on them, they have no right to even be playing in this competition. They should accept their position as a feeder union until they can sort their shit out.
Its just embarrassing for the small boys....although the Pumas always seem to be competitive at least . We have to accept EP needs to be in the system.
Thought scores doesn't matter?
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Real rugby supporters will watch these games. If the Rugby is good, we will enjoy them.

Plastic rugby supporters will moan about the games being meaningless but will forget about us not having Rugby for a year .
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Chilli wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:36 pm Real rugby supporters will watch these games. If the Rugby is good, we will enjoy them.

Plastic rugby supporters will moan about the games being meaningless but will forget about us not having Rugby for a year .

Jy weet dan. I,ll watch this anyday before watching Crusaders vs Hurricans or Waratards vs Farce or Bath vs Swim
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Chilli wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:36 pm Real rugby supporters will watch these games. If the Rugby is good, we will enjoy them.

Plastic rugby supporters will moan about the games being meaningless but will forget about us not having Rugby for a year .
Ok.
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What if we moan about the rugby being meaningless, but also remember what it was like not having rugby.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:00 am
Chilli wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:36 pm Real rugby supporters will watch these games. If the Rugby is good, we will enjoy them.

Plastic rugby supporters will moan about the games being meaningless but will forget about us not having Rugby for a year .

Jy weet dan. I,ll watch this anyday before watching Crusaders vs Hurricans or Waratards vs Farce or Bath vs Swim
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assfly wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:03 am What if we moan about the rugby being meaningless, but also remember what it was like not having rugby.
Then you are $ards!
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