Another mass shooting in the US

[FalseBayFC]

No. Just tired of the hypocrisy of certain nations when it comes to gun control on their own turf but churning out and selling machines to regimes like Saudi.

A UK made bomb hit a bus full of school children in Yemen in 2018 killing 29. Dunblane massacre was 18 dead and look at the action they took after that.
Poms may feel bemusement about what's going on in the US but feel fuck all about selling bombs to kill kids.

[Kawazaki]

Yeah do that and the Sturm und Drang that will occur will make the January 6 riot looks like a LBTG parade.

Then continue down this path where mass killings and drive-bys are dealt with by a shrug of indifference. Next milestone will be half-a-billion guns in civilian circulation then go for the cool billion.

Frankly, if Sandy Hook didn't jolt Americans into doing something - anything, then nothing will.

I hope you're as passionate about your government selling weapons to Saudi Arabia as you are about this. Funny how people dying in the USA is such a hot topic on this board and PR. Yemeni children being killed by US and UK missiles not so much.

People who throw out strawmen non sequiturs are generally considered cunts.

HTH

[FalseBayFC]

Then continue down this path where mass killings and drive-bys are dealt with by a shrug of indifference. Next milestone will be half-a-billion guns in civilian circulation then go for the cool billion.

Frankly, if Sandy Hook didn't jolt Americans into doing something - anything, then nothing will.

I hope you're as passionate about your government selling weapons to Saudi Arabia as you are about this. Funny how people dying in the USA is such a hot topic on this board and PR. Yemeni children being killed by US and UK missiles not so much.

People who throw out strawmen non sequiturs are generally considered cunts.

HTH

So why hasn't your government stopped the sale of 500lb bombs to Saudi? They even invoke CCP type censorship laws to prevent discussion about it. I absolutely consider myself a cunt. But at least I ain't a hypocrite.

[Kawazaki]

I hope you're as passionate about your government selling weapons to Saudi Arabia as you are about this. Funny how people dying in the USA is such a hot topic on this board and PR. Yemeni children being killed by US and UK missiles not so much.

People who throw out strawmen non sequiturs are generally considered cunts.

HTH

So why hasn't your government stopped the sale of 500lb bombs to Saudi? They even invoke CCP type censorship laws to prevent discussion about it. I absolutely consider myself a cunt. But at least I ain't a hypocrite.

You've been sussed fella. Take a break for a while and hope people have forgotten what a cunt you've made of yourself when you slink back on a different thread.

[FalseBayFC]

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This is the guy who ordered Kashoggi to be cut up in the Turkish embassy. Queen Liz about to offer him some of Raytheon's fine wares so he can drop them in Yemeni children. Her and the NRA mob are cut from the same cloth.

[FalseBayFC]

People who throw out strawmen non sequiturs are generally considered cunts.

HTH

So why hasn't your government stopped the sale of 500lb bombs to Saudi? They even invoke CCP type censorship laws to prevent discussion about it. I absolutely consider myself a cunt. But at least I ain't a hypocrite.

You've been sussed fella. Take a break for a while and hope people have forgotten what a cunt you've made of yourself when you slink back on a different thread.

You don't seem to be able to extend your ideas beyond insults. I have a feeling it's because you have no clue about the subject.

[Kawazaki]

So why hasn't your government stopped the sale of 500lb bombs to Saudi? They even invoke CCP type censorship laws to prevent discussion about it. I absolutely consider myself a cunt. But at least I ain't a hypocrite.

You've been sussed fella. Take a break for a while and hope people have forgotten what a cunt you've made of yourself when you slink back on a different thread.

You don't seem to be able to extend your ideas beyond insults. I have a feeling it's because you have no clue about the subject.

I called you a cunt when you introduced the strawmen. Which is better than you deserve to be honest.

[FalseBayFC]

OK well let's leave it at that. Seems guns should be controlled in the USA and UK but fuckloads should be distributed to unstable regimes around the world. Did you know that arms from the coalition of the willing's little adventure in Libya have made their way down to Mozambique and are being used to murder innocent people there. But CNN and the Guardian doesn't talk about that so it probably doesn't prick your conscience at all.

[Kawazaki]

OK well let's leave it at that. Seems guns should be controlled in the USA and UK but fuckloads should be distributed to unstable regimes around the world. Did you know that arms from the coalition of the willing's little adventure in Libya have made their way down to Mozambique and are being used to murder innocent people there. But CNN and the Guardian doesn't talk about that so it probably doesn't prick your conscience at all.

Fuck off the thread.

[FalseBayFC]

OK well let's leave it at that. Seems guns should be controlled in the USA and UK but fuckloads should be distributed to unstable regimes around the world. Did you know that arms from the coalition of the willing's little adventure in Libya have made their way down to Mozambique and are being used to murder innocent people there. But CNN and the Guardian doesn't talk about that so it probably doesn't prick your conscience at all.

Fuck off the thread.

Or what? You going to call me a cunt again?

[Kawazaki]

OK well let's leave it at that. Seems guns should be controlled in the USA and UK but fuckloads should be distributed to unstable regimes around the world. Did you know that arms from the coalition of the willing's little adventure in Libya have made their way down to Mozambique and are being used to murder innocent people there. But CNN and the Guardian doesn't talk about that so it probably doesn't prick your conscience at all.

Fuck off the thread.

Or what? You going to call me a cunt again?

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Cheesemaking is the controlled process of removing water from milk. This process concentrates the milk’s protein, fat and other nutrients and increases its shelf life. Cheesemaking is one of the earliest examples of biotechnology.

An ancient biotechnology
Cheesemaking is an ancient biotechnology that dates back to the domestication of animals. It is thought that it was probably first discovered by observing the accidental souring of milk and then pressing and salting the solid curd to preserve it for later consumption. Find out more about some early examples of biotechnology in our article on ancient biotechnology.

Cheesemaking principles
Cheesemaking involves coagulating the casein protein in milk and then separating the milk into solid curds and liquid whey. The liquid whey is drained away, and the curds are salted, shaped and left to ripen in a controlled environment.
Microorganisms are used in each step of this process and determine the flavour and texture of the final cheese.

Curds and whey

Cheesemaking involves separating milk into solid curds and liquid whey by coagulating the casein protein in milk.

Bacteria acidify milk
Acidifying (souring) milk helps to separate the curds and whey and control the growth of undesirable bacteria in cheese. Usually special ‘starter’ bacteria are added to milk to start the cheesemaking process. These bacteria convert the lactose (milk sugar) to lactic acid and lower the milk’s pH.

There are two types of bacteria used for this process:

Mesophilic bacteria thrive at room temperature but die at higher temperatures. They are used to make mellow cheeses, such as Cheddar, Gouda and Colby.
Thermophilic bacteria thrive at higher temperatures, around 55 °C, and are used to make sharper cheeses such as Gruyère, Parmesan and Romano.
Enzymes speed up coagulation
Some cheeses are curdled only by acidity. For example, paneer cheese is made using lemon juice to curdle the milk and cottage cheese is made using mesophilic bacteria. However, for most cheeses, rennet is also added to the milk after a starter bacteria. Rennet is a mixture containing the active enzyme chymosin. Rennet speeds up the coagulation of casein and produces a stronger curd. It also allows curdling at a lower acidity, which is important for some types of cheese.

Casein proteins coagulate
Milk is about 86% water but also contains fat, carbohydrate (mainly lactose), proteins (casein and whey), minerals and vitamins. Milk is an emulsion of fat globules and a suspension of casein micelles. These are suspended in the liquid phase of milk that contains dissolved lactose, whey proteins and some minerals.

Composition of cows’ milk

A table showing the components in cows’ milk. The exact composition will vary between cows and between different cow breeds.

The chymosin in rennet breaks down the kappa casein on the surface of the micelles changing them from being hydrophilic to hydrophobic. This causes them to aggregate together, trapping fat and water molecules in the developing curd. Further processing of the curd helps remove more water and compress the curd to form a solid cheese.


Cheese: a molecular view

This animated video shows how the molecular structure of milk changes at various stages of cheese making.

Sources of rennet
Rennet comes from the stomachs of young mammals that have a diet of mostly milk. Rennet from calf stomachs was the major source of chymosin until the 1960s when it was predicted that increasing demand for meat and increasing cheese production would lead to a shortage of calves and therefore a shortage of rennet. This led to the development of substitutes including extracts from adult cows and pigs, fungi and, more recently, microorganisms that have been genetically modified (GM) to yield GM rennet. GM rennet is the most commonly used today because it is the most cost-effective to produce.


Casein micelles

Scientists propose that casein micelles consist of a complex of submicelles. The calcium phosphate and hydrophobic interactions between submicelles contribute to the stability of the micelle. Kappa casein around the outside stabilises the micelles against aggregation.

Key
A: submicelle
B: protruding chain
C: calcium phosphate
D: kappa casein
E: phosphate group

Releasing the whey
After separating curds and whey, further processing of the curds helps release more of the whey trapped in the network of micelles before it is drained away. The exact processing steps vary depending on the type of cheese. However, generally, the curds are captured, pressed and moulded to form blocks of cheese.

Historically, whey was considered a waste product of cheesemaking. However, growing concern over the environmental impact of its disposal encouraged research to better understand the properties and potential uses of whey. Increasing scientific understanding and technological advances have led to a wide range of uses for whey and established it as a valuable coproduct of the cheese industry, find out more about other uses of whey.

Ripening the cheese
Cheese is left to ripen, or age, in a temperature and humidity-controlled environment for varying lengths of time depending on the cheese type. As cheese ripens, bacteria break down the proteins, altering the flavour and texture of the final cheese. The proteins first break into medium-sized pieces (peptides) and then into smaller pieces (amino acids). In turn, these can be broken down into various, highly flavoured molecules called amines. At each stage, more complex flavours are produced.

During ripening, some cheeses are inoculated with a fungus such as Penicillium. Inoculation can be either on the surface (for example, with Camembert and Brie) or internally (for example, with blue vein cheeses). During ripening, the fungi produce digestive enzymes, which break down large protein molecules in the cheese. This makes the cheese softer, runny and even blue.


Ripening Gouda cheese

Traditional Gouda cheese is ripened on wooden shelves under controlled conditions for varying lengths of time depending on the desired flavour and texture.

Cheese comes in many varieties of different styles, textures and flavours, find our more on creating some of these different cheese characteristics.

Transgenic cow research reveals potential to increase cheese yield
AgResearch’s transgenic cow research has produced transgenic cows with extra bovine kappa casein genes inserted in their genome. This resulted in increased kappa casein in their milk. Increased kappa casein levels are associated with better cheesemaking properties, higher cheese yield and higher calcium content.

Useful links
Chymosin production
Learn more about chymosin, a very important enzyme that is also a genetically modified organism in this 2017 podcast and article on the UK Royal Society of Chemistry website.

A history of cheese
Read about the history of cheese from its early beginnings to the present in this magazine-style article from The Nibble.

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Cunt

[Kiwias]

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This is the guy who ordered Kashoggi to be cut up in the Turkish embassy. Queen Liz about to offer him some of Raytheon's fine wares so he can drop them in Yemeni children. Her and the NRA mob are cut from the same cloth.

Silly me for thinking all this time that the Queen would never ever become a representative for the arms industry. Silly me.

[FalseBayFC]

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This is the guy who ordered Kashoggi to be cut up in the Turkish embassy. Queen Liz about to offer him some of Raytheon's fine wares so he can drop them in Yemeni children. Her and the NRA mob are cut from the same cloth.

Silly me for thinking all this time that the Queen would never ever become a representative for the arms industry. Silly me.

I know right?
Here she is with the ruler of the UAE. This guy literally keeps his daughters drugged and locked up in a tower. When one of them tried to escape he had her captured by Indian commandos and returned after she tried to escape.

[Slick]

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This is the guy who ordered Kashoggi to be cut up in the Turkish embassy. Queen Liz about to offer him some of Raytheon's fine wares so he can drop them in Yemeni children. Her and the NRA mob are cut from the same cloth.

I don’t think you will find many on here agreeing with U.K. government policy on much of what you are talking about.

But you are a Saffer, right? I think you were the guy a few days ago trying to blame decades of apartheid on a rugby tour.

I think maybe if you want to talk about arms sales and deliberately destabilising countries or government corruption you could also start a bit closer to home.

[Uncle fester]

I hope you're as passionate about your government selling weapons to Saudi Arabia as you are about this. Funny how people dying in the USA is such a hot topic on this board and PR. Yemeni children being killed by US and UK missiles not so much.

People who throw out strawmen non sequiturs are generally considered cunts.

HTH

So why hasn't your government stopped the sale of 500lb bombs to Saudi? They even invoke CCP type censorship laws to prevent discussion about it. I absolutely consider myself a cunt. But at least I ain't a hypocrite.

South Africa
Arming Israel so they can brutalise Palestinians for over 50 years.

This game is fun.

[Tichtheid]

Campaign Against Arms Trade, or CAAT was founded in the UK in the mid 70s, they’ve been at the heart of organised protest against arms sales to Saudi Arabia for decades

This movement has a lot of support across the UK, even if it doesn’t gain a lot of publicity.

To say that people in the UK support gun control here and in the US but don’t give a damn about arms sales elsewhere is just facile

[Calculon]

People who throw out strawmen non sequiturs are generally considered cunts.

HTH

So why hasn't your government stopped the sale of 500lb bombs to Saudi? They even invoke CCP type censorship laws to prevent discussion about it. I absolutely consider myself a cunt. But at least I ain't a hypocrite.

South Africa
Arming Israel so they can brutalise Palestinians for over 50 years.

This game is fun.

I think the flow of weapons and technology was more the other way round

[fishfoodie]

So why hasn't your government stopped the sale of 500lb bombs to Saudi? They even invoke CCP type censorship laws to prevent discussion about it. I absolutely consider myself a cunt. But at least I ain't a hypocrite.

South Africa
Arming Israel so they can brutalise Palestinians for over 50 years.

This game is fun.

I think the flow of weapons and technology was more the other way round

The Tech was nuclear from Israel; & the mysterious nuclear test down south

[Rinkals]

Anyways, another example of America's finest in action. This didn't happen in downtown fallujah but in Windsor Virginia. After the incident the chief of police said they will conduct an internal investigation. Windsor has a population of around 2600, virtually no crime and spends 34 percent of its budget on the police, which consists of 7 officers (including the chief of police)

Jesus.

That's difficult to watch.

The first thing one thinks is "Why didn't he comply with the requests to get out of the car and undo his seat belt?", but you know that when he withdraws his hands from their sight to comply, there is a strong likelihood that they would assume he's going for a gun and fill him full of lead.

One doubts whether the officers would have escalated the situation to the point where a shooting seemed almost unavoidable, had the victim been white.

[notfatcat]

but you know that when he withdraws his hands from their sight to comply, there is a strong likelihood that they would assume he's going for a gun and fill him full of lead.

A strong likelihood eh?

How many traffic stops vs how many times the police fill someone full of lead at a traffic stop do you think there are annually?

[Calculon]

The cops shouted at him to put his hands outside the car window, he complied. Then they shouted at him to get out of the car, which is a bit difficult if you are wearing your seat belt and have your hands outside the car window. So whatever he did he would have to disobey one of their orders.

[Lemoentjie]

I saw that UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson was very pleased that justice had been found when a scumbag policeman was found guilty of killing a scumbag criminal in the USA.

Does he have an equal level of desire for justice for the Yemeni children killed by British-made missiles? What about Iraqis killed by British bombs? Syrians? Libyans?

[tabascoboy]

I saw that UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson was very pleased that justice had been found when a scumbag policeman was found guilty of killing a scumbag criminal in the USA.

Does he have an equal level of desire for justice for the Yemeni children killed by British-made missiles? What about Iraqis killed by British bombs? Syrians? Libyans?

Why not ask him directly?

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson

[Rinkals]

but you know that when he withdraws his hands from their sight to comply, there is a strong likelihood that they would assume he's going for a gun and fill him full of lead.

A strong likelihood eh?

How many traffic stops vs how many times the police fill someone full of lead at a traffic stop do you think there are annually?

I'm going by the number of people (black folks in particular) who are deemed to be going for a weapon once they move a hand out of sight.

Your trust in the capacity of American policemen to exercise restraint, while touching, doesn't seem to be borne out by the statistics.

[Rinkals]

The cops shouted at him to put his hands outside the car window, he complied. Then they shouted at him to get out of the car, which is a bit difficult if you are wearing your seat belt and have your hands outside the car window. So whatever he did he would have to disobey one of their orders.

It's almost as if they were hoping that he'd give them an excuse to shoot him.

I know they probably weren't, but the poor guy could probably be forgiven for having his doubts.

[shaggy]

The cops shouted at him to put his hands outside the car window, he complied. Then they shouted at him to get out of the car, which is a bit difficult if you are wearing your seat belt and have your hands outside the car window. So whatever he did he would have to disobey one of their orders.

You can open the door from the outside and provide a clear view into the vehicle thus allowing the seatbelt to be safely released.

[Calculon]

The cops shouted at him to put his hands outside the car window, he complied. Then they shouted at him to get out of the car, which is a bit difficult if you are wearing your seat belt and have your hands outside the car window. So whatever he did he would have to disobey one of their orders.

You can open the door from the outside and provide a clear view into the vehicle thus allowing the seatbelt to be safely released.

That's what the policeman tried to do but could not, so no, it appears you could not open the door from the outside without having first to reach inside the car to unlock it

[laurent]

The cops shouted at him to put his hands outside the car window, he complied. Then they shouted at him to get out of the car, which is a bit difficult if you are wearing your seat belt and have your hands outside the car window. So whatever he did he would have to disobey one of their orders.

You can open the door from the outside and provide a clear view into the vehicle thus allowing the seatbelt to be safely released.

That's what the policeman tried to do but could not, so no, it appears you could not open the door from the outside without having first to reach inside the car

Most modern car forbid this you need to open from the inside to release central locking.

[Calculon]

You can open the door from the outside and provide a clear view into the vehicle thus allowing the seatbelt to be safely released.

That's what the policeman tried to do but could not, so no, it appears you could not open the door from the outside without having first to reach inside the car

Most modern car forbid this you need to open from the inside to release central locking.

Yes, clearly they're not designed with American cops in mind

[laurent]

That's what the policeman tried to do but could not, so no, it appears you could not open the door from the outside without having first to reach inside the car

Most modern car forbid this you need to open from the inside to release central locking.

Yes, clearly they're not designed with American cops in mind

there are bulletproof ones but it's a tad expensive.

[Fangle]

First just get permission from the cop as to what you want to do. I even do that to reach for my car registration telling him exactly where my hand will go. And move slowly.

[Kawazaki]

Basically, in the USA, you have to treat the policeman like an idiot, largely because that's exactly what they are. Talk to him slowly, tell him what you're doing, ask him if he understands what you've told/asked him what you need to do, move very slowly.

[Calculon]

First just get permission from the cop as to what you want to do. I even do that to reach for my car registration telling him exactly where my hand will go. And move slowly.

Do they also point their guns at you, yell at you that you are "fixing to ride the lightning", and that you should be scared?

[shaggy]

The cops shouted at him to put his hands outside the car window, he complied. Then they shouted at him to get out of the car, which is a bit difficult if you are wearing your seat belt and have your hands outside the car window. So whatever he did he would have to disobey one of their orders.

You can open the door from the outside and provide a clear view into the vehicle thus allowing the seatbelt to be safely released.

That's what the policeman tried to do but could not, so no, it appears you could not open the door from the outside without having first to reach inside the car to unlock it

You are presuming I actually watched the video. That’s not how we do things round here.

[notfatcat]

but you know that when he withdraws his hands from their sight to comply, there is a strong likelihood that they would assume he's going for a gun and fill him full of lead.

A strong likelihood eh?

How many traffic stops vs how many times the police fill someone full of lead at a traffic stop do you think there are annually?

I'm going by the number of people (black folks in particular) who are deemed to be going for a weapon once they move a hand out of sight.

Your trust in the capacity of American policemen to exercise restraint, while touching, doesn't seem to be borne out by the statistics.

Okay, on which statistics are you basing your claim? How many unarmed black people are shot each year by the police and how many of them are the result of a traffic stop?

Edit: And of course we'll need the statistics showing how many traffic stops in total are done each year involving a black person so that we can see whether you're talking sense or not.

[notfatcat]

The cops shouted at him to put his hands outside the car window, he complied. Then they shouted at him to get out of the car, which is a bit difficult if you are wearing your seat belt and have your hands outside the car window. So whatever he did he would have to disobey one of their orders.

Firstly, I would say both sides were at fault. You mentioned the guy complied but he only complied when he wanted to comply, not when the cops first tried to pull him over and not when they first asked him to show his hands. He eventually complied after acting the tit for a while. It was no surprise the cops had their weapons drawn thanks to his non-compliance, although clearly the cops were unprofessional and lost their cool; or at least one of them did.

[Calculon]

yeah, that's the version of events in the police report of the incident, well done.

[notfatcat]

With help from the guy's own livestream. No need to be a twat about it.

[Sandstorm]

With help from the guy's own livestream. No need to be a twat about it.

Fatcat is a rightwingnut most days, but he’s right here.

The black driver was very awkward, even after he stopped and was ordered out of the car. He made the situation of dealing with bad cops infinitely worse.

[Fangle]

And it’s always a good idea to try to resist arrest.