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FalseBayFC wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:25 am [quote=Blake post_id=118893 time=1625302729 user_id=281

Similarly I think they or going for balance in the loosies; so they are looking for a like-for-like #8 to be long-term back-up for Duane, and a like-for-like replacement for Flow...hence Van Staden's call-up.
Since Duane is injured and in doubt for the series we need to find a backup soon, so Wiese got his cap, but I think if Duane was fit, he would have started yesterday and Van Staden would have been on the bench instead.

handyman wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:11 am Did anyone mention how absolutely useless Elton Jantjies was yesterday? Everything he touched turned to sh1t. He needs to get up to speed fast, we need an attacking option at flyhalf.

boere wors wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:53 am What should our first choice front row be against the Lions? Start with Thomas du Toit/Bongi/Malherbe, then bring on kitshoff/marx/koch? Our scrum and forward play was shit until the new front row came on, ox and nyakane weren't up for it.

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:02 am Ox will be a very good impact player. Should start with Kitshoff, Bongi and Fat Frans. He made an immediate difference last night.

Sards wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:59 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:02 am Ox will be a very good impact player. Should start with Kitshoff, Bongi and Fat Frans. He made an immediate difference last night.

I love this. Of course a fresh player will make an impact....

FalseBayFC wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:17 pm Junior Boks very average this year.

FalseBayFC wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:25 am [quote=Blake post_id=118893 time=1625302729 user_id=281

Similarly I think they or going for balance in the loosies; so they are looking for a like-for-like #8 to be long-term back-up for Duane, and a like-for-like replacement for Flow...hence Van Staden's call-up.
Since Duane is injured and in doubt for the series we need to find a backup soon, so Wiese got his cap, but I think if Duane was fit, he would have started yesterday and Van Staden would have been on the bench instead.

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:59 pm He was awesome for Grey College. Sadly most supporers measure fatties with their ball skills and not their primary job of strumming. It's still early days.

assfly wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:19 am I thought that was a decent outing from the Boks. Rust was expected, but when we pushed the button things did happen.

I thought Ox was excellent and I think him and Ginga could wreck havoc tag-teaming the way they did.
Good workhorse innings from Mostert, especially in the second half.
Decent from Kolisi, was hitting rucks like a madman and looked confident.
Not that impressed with Kwagga, I'd give Jasper the 8 jersey for next week to compare.
Reinarch had a decent game, but Herschell definitely upped the pace when he came on.
Frans looked like he hadn't played a game of rugby in weeks. Willemse was better, but DdA will still owns that 12 jersey.
So happy for Fassi. Didn't see any "Specmagic".

Of all our players, I enjoyed watching Willie the most. A very typical performance from him; setting up tries, joining the line from the back, a couple of silly mistakes. If this match is anything to go by, he will be our chief playmaker for the series.

Well done Georgia too, a real gutsy performance.

sorCrer wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:24 am Willie, apart from under the high ball was rubbish. 2 kicks out on the full is crap. Hogg looked a far more accomplished 15.

assfly wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:42 am

sorCrer wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:24 am Willie, apart from under the high ball was rubbish. 2 kicks out on the full is crap. Hogg looked a far more accomplished 15.

I disagree, but this is always the debate about Willie. You've got to take the good with the bad. I expect him to improve going forward, and that the Lions will see him as our main attacking threat.

Of course Hogg looks much better at the moment. He's coming off the back of a premiership, European cup and Six nations. Willie has been playing with midgets. Let's see where we are in a few weeks.

assfly wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:19 am I thought that was a decent outing from the Boks. Rust was expected, but when we pushed the button things did happen.

I thought Ox was excellent and I think him and Ginga could wreck havoc tag-teaming the way they did.
Good workhorse innings from Mostert, especially in the second half.
Decent from Kolisi, was hitting rucks like a madman and looked confident.
Not that impressed with Kwagga, I'd give Jasper the 8 jersey for next week to compare.
Reinarch had a decent game, but Herschell definitely upped the pace when he came on.
Frans looked like he hadn't played a game of rugby in weeks. Willemse was better, but DdA will still owns that 12 jersey.
So happy for Fassi. Didn't see any "Specmagic".

Of all our players, I enjoyed watching Willie the most. A very typical performance from him; setting up tries, joining the line from the back, a couple of silly mistakes. If this match is anything to go by, he will be our chief playmaker for the series.

Well done Georgia too, a real gutsy performance.

sorCrer wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:54 am He has been rubbish for years. His defence is particularly shit. I'll never forget Dane Coles running over him. Yes he does pull something out if the bag occasionally but I prefer a solid dependable full back with a range of skills very much including defense.

assfly wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:25 am

sorCrer wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:54 am He has been rubbish for years. His defence is particularly shit. I'll never forget Dane Coles running over him. Yes he does pull something out if the bag occasionally but I prefer a solid dependable full back with a range of skills very much including defense.

Look at the tries the Boks have scored in the last few years. Almost all of our backline tries have his involvement, and he is a magnet for opposition defenders. What he lacks in defence he makes up for in creativity.

We traditionally have very few players like this in SA and I'm glad that Rassie has stuck with him.

Who else would you have at 15?

Big Nipper wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:44 am

assfly wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:25 am

sorCrer wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:54 am He has been rubbish for years. His defence is particularly shit. I'll never forget Dane Coles running over him. Yes he does pull something out if the bag occasionally but I prefer a solid dependable full back with a range of skills very much including defense.

Look at the tries the Boks have scored in the last few years. Almost all of our backline tries have his involvement, and he is a magnet for opposition defenders. What he lacks in defence he makes up for in creativity.

We traditionally have very few players like this in SA and I'm glad that Rassie has stuck with him.

Who else would you have at 15?

Bulls supporters would probably rather have Papa Roets back at 15 fir the Boks

sorCrer wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:02 am Willemse.

assfly wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:25 am

sorCrer wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:54 am He has been rubbish for years. His defence is particularly shit. I'll never forget Dane Coles running over him. Yes he does pull something out if the bag occasionally but I prefer a solid dependable full back with a range of skills very much including defense.

Look at the tries the Boks have scored in the last few years. Almost all of our backline tries have his involvement, and he is a magnet for opposition defenders. What he lacks in defence he makes up for in creativity.

We traditionally have very few players like this in SA and I'm glad that Rassie has stuck with him.

Who else would you have at 15?

assfly wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:10 am

sorCrer wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:02 am Willemse.

Very different player to Willie, for sure. I am also informed he is the new Bok 12.

My issue with him is his lack of passing.

In the Georgia game Willie joined the line to pass the ball that led to Fassi and Reinarch's tries. Willemse in the same position would lost likely take it up himself.

sorCrer wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:19 pm I'm not seriously selecting Willemse. Willie just better iron out any errors. He was awful during the world cup and there were calls for his head before the final but Rassie stuck with him and he was OK.

The reason I'm worried about his defence is I reckon the Lions will be sending crash balls up the middle.

Sards wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:25 pm

sorCrer wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:19 pm I'm not seriously selecting Willemse. Willie just better iron out any errors. He was awful during the world cup and there were calls for his head before the final but Rassie stuck with him and he was OK.

The reason I'm worried about his defence is I reckon the Lions will be sending crash balls up the middle.

Crashballs only. They have all the skills including chip kicks etc.

handyman wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 8:14 am Our best bet for this series is Willie, no question.

Blake wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 6:49 am

handyman wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 8:14 am Our best bet for this series is Willie, no question.

Willie is probably the least selfish player in the backline. He is the only player I can think of in the team, that is always trying to create an opportunity by creating space for somebody else as a first instinct.
You need all sorts of players to create balance. This is why I don't rate Willemse at 10 or 15...he always seems to want to create a highlights reel for himself. At 12 there is no time for nonsense like that...the defense is on you, so you either crash it up, or play decoy runner, and when you crash it up and manage to step a defender along the way, all the better. Go for it, just don't turn over the fucking ball.

sorCrer wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:19 pm I'm not seriously selecting Willemse. Willie just better iron out any errors. He was awful during the world cup and there were calls for his head before the final but Rassie stuck with him and he was OK.

The reason I'm worried about his defence is I reckon the Lions will be sending crash balls up the middle.

Chilli wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 8:02 am

assfly wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:10 am

sorCrer wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:02 am Willemse.

Very different player to Willie, for sure. I am also informed he is the new Bok 12.

My issue with him is his lack of passing.

In the Georgia game Willie joined the line to pass the ball that led to Fassi and Reinarch's tries. Willemse in the same position would lost likely take it up himself.

and then have the fanbooi's telling us how physical he is. Hitting rucks like a monster.

Nienaber was, however, pleased with the cameo performance put in by Damian Willemse who replaced Steyn at inside centre. He feels that by playing Willemse at 12 he frees him up to play his natural game.

“Damian was always an option for us at 10, 12 and 15. He is definitely a guy who can fulfil that role

OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:42 am

Chilli wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 8:02 am and then have the fanbooi's telling us how physical he is. Hitting rucks like a monster.

https://t.co/9qGRS3tLOt