NPR

handyman wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:15 pm

Chilli wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:13 pm

FalseBayFC wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:17 am https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/hilton-lob ... age-of-me/

Wow.
Not much good about Jimmy.

I think it will be good to hear Jimmy's side of the story as well.

I don't find it strange that a self made man like Stonehouse and a kid from a family of 9 siblings in a coloured township in Paarl might have had a problem understanding each other. Lobberts came from a cohort of POC players who were possibly didn't enjoy the kind of life skill support they do now. Jimmy came from a working class family in Krugersdorp. Guys like Cheslin Kolbe and his cousin world record 400m runner Wayde Van Niekerk come from similar communities but enjoyed a different fate.

I sympathize with Ashwin Willemse, Paul Adams, Ashwill Prince, Quinton Davids and Ntini. This was an awkward period in our history where we were pretending to be the Rainbow Nation but hadn't really got to know each other yet.

I completely understand how Ntini and Adams must have felt in that bombastic all white environment they were thrust into. One of the reasons why we have we have excelled at rugby and cricket since re-admission has to do with the pioneer x African gees/mana which we are able to bring to the sports. What we make lack in skill is made up with in boerekrag. The current generation are able to merge these into a new identity. Mapimpi and Rabada are two of these new breed.

OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:53 pm

Sards wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:33 pm

handyman wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:15 pm

I think it will be good to hear Jimmy's side of the story as well.

You really feel for kids that have to go through this.
One thing I have learnt. A leopard never changes its spots. He has anger issues. Maybe not his fault because of his upbringing but it's there.
Stonehouse comes across as a no nonsense type of guy. Don't expect him to be your buddy. Its easy to get angry with someone like that. You can't like everyone and not everyone is going to be sympathetic. It's a tough old world out there and you just have to be better than the next guy. Of course he is going to praise Dobson. He pays his salary.

Stonehouse is probably the same type of coach like Robert du Preez (snr)

Why do you say that?

handyman wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:15 pm

Chilli wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:13 pm

FalseBayFC wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:17 am https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/hilton-lob ... age-of-me/

Wow.
Not much good about Jimmy.

I think it will be good to hear Jimmy's side of the story as well.

I never said it was true

handyman wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:10 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:53 pm

Sards wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:33 pm

You really feel for kids that have to go through this.
One thing I have learnt. A leopard never changes its spots. He has anger issues. Maybe not his fault because of his upbringing but it's there.
Stonehouse comes across as a no nonsense type of guy. Don't expect him to be your buddy. Its easy to get angry with someone like that. You can't like everyone and not everyone is going to be sympathetic. It's a tough old world out there and you just have to be better than the next guy. Of course he is going to praise Dobson. He pays his salary.

Stonehouse is probably the same type of coach like Robert du Preez (snr)

Why do you say that?

Sards type of coach

Sards wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:33 pm

handyman wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:15 pm

Chilli wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:13 pm

Wow.
Not much good about Jimmy.

I think it will be good to hear Jimmy's side of the story as well.

You really feel for kids that have to go through this.
One thing I have learnt. A leopard never changes its spots. He has anger issues. Maybe not his fault because of his upbringing but it's there.
Stonehouse comes across as a no nonsense type of guy. Don't expect him to be your buddy. Its easy to get angry with someone like that. You can't like everyone and not everyone is going to be sympathetic. It's a tough old world out there and you just have to be better than the next guy. Of course he is going to praise Dobson. He pays his salary.

Ja shame the poor guy still play rugby for your club, Milnerton.

Lobberts also didn't make AC or Franco out to be great guys.

Sards wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:50 am Sharks:
15 Inny-Christian Radebe,
14 Yaw Penxe,
13 Werner Kok,
12 Marius Louw (captain),
11 Marnus Potgieter,
10 Curwin Bosch,
9 Cameron Wright,
8 Sikhumbuzo Notshe,
7 Celimpilo Gumede,
6 James Venter,
5 Reniel Hugo,
4 Emile van Heerden,
3 Lourens Adriaanse,
2 Fezokuhle Mbatha,
1 Khwezi Mona.
Replacements: 16 Dan Jooste, 17 Dian Bleuler, 18 Hanru Jacobs, 19 Le Roux Roets, 20 Thembelani Bholi, 21 Olajuwon Noa, 22 Sanele Nohamba, 23 Murray Koster.

Le Roux Roets? Didn't he go to France?

$harks should win by 15 points, so WP by 2 or 3 then

OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:49 pm

Sards wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:33 pm

handyman wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:15 pm

I think it will be good to hear Jimmy's side of the story as well.

You really feel for kids that have to go through this.
One thing I have learnt. A leopard never changes its spots. He has anger issues. Maybe not his fault because of his upbringing but it's there.
Stonehouse comes across as a no nonsense type of guy. Don't expect him to be your buddy. Its easy to get angry with someone like that. You can't like everyone and not everyone is going to be sympathetic. It's a tough old world out there and you just have to be better than the next guy. Of course he is going to praise Dobson. He pays his salary.

Ja shame the poor guy still play rugby for your club, Milnerton.

It's Millies

Chilli wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:15 pm

handyman wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:15 pm

Chilli wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:13 pm

Wow.
Not much good about Jimmy.

I think it will be good to hear Jimmy's side of the story as well.

I never said it was true

Didn't say you did. There's always 2 sides to a story tho. I think it's poor journalism to not at least phone Stonehouse for his side of the story.

OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:46 pm

handyman wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:10 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:53 pm
Stonehouse is probably the same type of coach like Robert du Preez (snr)

Why do you say that?

Sards type of coach

Nothing wrong with a coach that is a bit of a schoolmaster type, most South African players respond well to that. Buddy buddy coaches have not done too well in SA over the years. All within limits of course.

handyman wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:04 am Nothing wrong with a coach that is a bit of a schoolmaster type, most South African players respond well to that. Buddy buddy coaches have not done too well in SA over the years. All within limits of course.

You're not wrong. Probably due to the patriarchal style of the top schools in SA. You see a lot of the younger plays still with their "yes sir yes ma'am" responses when dealing with the media too.

But interesting that Rassie does not strike me as this type. Perhaps that's why the Boks responded so well to him.

assfly wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:34 am

handyman wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:04 am Nothing wrong with a coach that is a bit of a schoolmaster type, most South African players respond well to that. Buddy buddy coaches have not done too well in SA over the years. All within limits of course.

You're not wrong. Probably due to the patriarchal style of the top schools in SA. You see a lot of the younger plays still with their "yes sir yes ma'am" responses when dealing with the media too.

But interesting that Rassie does not strike me as this type. Perhaps that's why the Boks responded so well to him.

I think Rassie can be good cop and bad cop and that's what makes him special.

We will only know what he have in him when he's no longer involved.

Pops in on CC day....vokkol happening....leaves quietly

How long before the $hark$ poach Zander du Plessis?

Will miss WP / $hark$ match due to vokken load shedding.

Can't find the matches on my normal streaming site...

Any suggestions

Sards wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:41 pm Can't find the matches on my normal streaming site...

Any suggestions

Nothing, you never watch CC anyways.

Tsek jy



Nothing
Nada
Nike


Vok man. I wasn't prepared for this

Sards wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:10 pm Tsek jy



Nothing
Nada
Nike


Vok man. I wasn't prepared for this

Using my name in vain?

20-19 Bulls at the half

Sards wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:41 pm Can't find the matches on my normal streaming site...

Any suggestions

DSTV.

Vrystaat is besig om die Bulle te breek op Loftus

Cheetahs het die een in die aakkie

Cheetahs het die een in die sakkie

Wens iemand kan Blommetjies se hare met n skaapsker knip

Ta Vrystaat!

Where did they get this qouta ref?

Swiel can't tekkel for all his life?

Both Notsche and Bosch had top games

Should have put more on WP

Hollywood $harks move to 3rd on the log.

Enjoyed this round of CC. Even if only because the Lions were not involved.

Cheetahs look like the team to beat at this stage. Bulls have fallen to them. Let's see what the $harks can do when we face them. WP look like their SARU subsidy is stretched over the URC team. With very little left for quality in the CC. Bulls look they don't know which is their URC team and which is their CC team.

VRYSTAAT

The Bulls look shit.
The Sheriff hasn't done them much good

How long until the money guys expect better performances?

I only caught the highlights because I had a function at my daughters school. Curwin seemed to go OK. How was he on defence? I feel sorry for the guy but he's still only 24 and has plenty of time to build a career. He certainly has the skills to make it.

Pretty happy with that result. First half was poor from both sides, but we came out fighting after half time. A few notable performances:

Best I've seen Curwin play in a while. Looks so much more dangerous when he runs and passes.
Cameron Wright was outstanding at 9, his box kicking was incredibly accurate. Together with Penxe, they really caused havoc for the WP backs.
Gumede is one to watch. Could be the answer to the Sharks 7 jersey.
Fez has improved a lot too. Can push Bongi for the 2 jersey.

If nothing else, the main Sharks team will feel some heat from these guys pushing for their jerseys.

assfly wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:24 am Pretty happy with that result. First half was poor from both sides, but we came out fighting after half time. A few notable performances:

Best I've seen Curwin play in a while. Looks so much more dangerous when he runs and passes.
Cameron Wright was outstanding at 9, his box kicking was incredibly accurate. Together with Penxe, they really caused havoc for the WP backs.
Gumede is one to watch. Could be the answer to the Sharks 7 jersey.
Fez has improved a lot too. Can push Bongi for the 2 jersey.

If nothing else, the main Sharks team will feel some heat from these guys pushing for their jerseys.

Thats what we need. I am not happy with our URC flyhalf import

assfly wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:24 am Pretty happy with that result. First half was poor from both sides, but we came out fighting after half time. A few notable performances:

Best I've seen Curwin play in a while. Looks so much more dangerous when he runs and passes.
Cameron Wright was outstanding at 9, his box kicking was incredibly accurate. Together with Penxe, they really caused havoc for the WP backs.
Gumede is one to watch. Could be the answer to the Sharks 7 jersey.
Fez has improved a lot too. Can push Bongi for the 2 jersey.

If nothing else, the main Sharks team will feel some heat from these guys pushing for their jerseys.

Both Zululand boys. From Umfolozi and Empangeni respectively. KZN has vast sporting potential and right now the only bottlenecks are the limited number of places in the traditional sporting schools. These are really the only places where young talent gets the access to the coaching and training facilities necessary for elite athletes. I'd love to see a big push into rural KZN by the rugby and cricket development guys. Lungi Ngidi and Andile Phehlukwayo are scholarship boys from modest backgrounds. With our population of 11.1 million souls and the emergence of black african sporting idols in rugby and cricket, I think KZN has got the potential to be a powerhouse in these two sports.

Sards wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:32 am Thats what we need. I am not happy with our URC flyhalf import

Well he's starting on Saturday, will be good to see how he gets on.

FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:10 am Both Zululand boys. From Umfolozi and Empangeni respectively. KZN has vast sporting potential and right now the only bottlenecks are the limited number of places in the traditional sporting schools. These are really the only places where young talent gets the access to the coaching and training facilities necessary for elite athletes. I'd love to see a big push into rural KZN by the rugby and cricket development guys. Lungi Ngidi and Andile Phehlukwayo are scholarship boys from modest backgrounds. With our population of 11.1 million souls and the emergence of black african sporting idols in rugby and cricket, I think KZN has got the potential to be a powerhouse in these two sports.

That's good to hear. I agree, I think we're only looking at the tip of the iceberg with the talent available in KZN. Let's hope the $$$ that we're rolling in extends to these areas.

assfly wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 10:33 am

Sards wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:32 am Thats what we need. I am not happy with our URC flyhalf import

Well he's starting on Saturday, will be good to see how he gets on

Saw that...I am literally shocked

Friday 18 February - No URC
19:00 Griquas v Western Province

Saturday 19 February - No URC
14:30 Pumas v Cheetahs
17:00 Lions v Sharks

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:59 pm Friday 18 February - No URC
19:00 Griquas v Western Province

Saturday 19 February - No URC
14:30 Pumas v Cheetahs
17:00 Lions v Sharks

Bulls on 10
Cheetahs and Sharks on 9 with a game in hand
WP on 5 with a game more than Sharks and Cheetahs

Sards wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:29 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:59 pm Friday 18 February - No URC
19:00 Griquas v Western Province

Saturday 19 February - No URC
14:30 Pumas v Cheetahs
17:00 Lions v Sharks

Bulls on 10
Cheetahs and Sharks on 9 with a game in hand
WP on 5 with a game more than Sharks and Cheetahs

and the URC log?

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