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Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:35 pm**

Eddie’s power subs really do change the momentum.

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:35 pm**

petej wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:31 pm Speaking about pace. I watched Sarries quins earlier and noted how fast Lynagh and Lewington were compared to say Nowell.

My 62 year old mum could probably give Nowell a run for his money in the pace stakes.

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:35 pm**

Curry needs to grab some English neck scruffs.

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:37 pm**

inactionman wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:31 pm
ASMO wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:01 pm There must be better tightheads around than Will Stuart
Kieran Brooks and Paul Hill both looked promising until northamponed.

HenryThomas looked tidy for bath until injury.

Who else is on list of not quites?

Hey, I'll take we ruined Hill but Brookes has been disappointing pretty much wherever he's turned up.

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:38 pm**

Oxbow wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:37 pm
inactionman wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:31 pm
ASMO wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:01 pm There must be better tightheads around than Will Stuart
Kieran Brooks and Paul Hill both looked promising until northamponed.

HenryThomas looked tidy for bath until injury.

Who else is on list of not quites?
Hey, I'll take we ruined Hill but Brookes has been disappointing pretty much wherever he's turned up.

He was good for Wasps. One to one scrummaging in Dai Young's kitchen clearly did something for him

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:38 pm**

Good old box kick

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:39 pm**

Drive 15 yards then box kick. Perfect

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:40 pm**

Margin__Walker wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:39 pm Drive 15 yards then box kick. Perfect

Was going to post reply. Then just, sigh…..

Edit. Actually no. It just f’s everything up. Slow,slow,slow. The message spreads throughout the side. Just wrong for the supposed aims of fast and aggresive.

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:41 pm**

PCPhil wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:40 pm
Margin__Walker wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:39 pm Drive 15 yards then box kick. Perfect
Was going to post reply. Then just, sigh…..

26 - 0 up FFS.

Why?

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:41 pm**

This game has me pining for the entertainment Wales & Scotland gave us yesterday....

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:42 pm**

Oxbow wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:37 pm
inactionman wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:31 pm
ASMO wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:01 pm There must be better tightheads around than Will Stuart
Kieran Brooks and Paul Hill both looked promising until northamponed.

HenryThomas looked tidy for bath until injury.

Who else is on list of not quites?
Hey, I'll take we ruined Hill but Brookes has been disappointing pretty much wherever he's turned up.

Joe Heyes?

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:42 pm**

Considering the championships England have lost on points difference in the not too distant past, you'd think there might be a bit more urgency and intent here to run up a score, but not we're aimlessly kicking the ball and generally farting around.

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:43 pm**

Not sure about that one. Two Italian players flew off their feet before that.

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:43 pm**

Defence is a positive I guess. Youngs is Youngs, our subs used to IIRC add urgency and intensity. Now they kill our momentum every week. Win’s a win I guess

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:44 pm**

Do England get another win in this six Nations? Only one I could see is Wales if they play like they did against ireland, but I can't see them being that poor against us.

We're just a very average team under Jones.

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:45 pm**

That's better

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:46 pm**

Oh look, some pace on the ball and we get somewhere.

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:46 pm**

Good try tbf, Smith reading it well. No issue with us kicking to chase

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:46 pm**

Crash669 wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:44 pm Do England get another win in this six Nations? Only one I could see is Wales if they play like they did against ireland, but I can't see them being that poor against us.

We're just a very average team under Jones.

Wales will have Toby and Adams back for the next game and possibly Navidi

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:47 pm**

WHAT THE FUCK IS JONES FUCKING DOING?

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:48 pm**

Eddie just basically being a cunt to Ford, because he can.

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:49 pm**

C69 wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:46 pm
Crash669 wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:44 pm Do England get another win in this six Nations? Only one I could see is Wales if they play like they did against ireland, but I can't see them being that poor against us.

We're just a very average team under Jones.
Wales will have Toby and Adams back for the next game and possibly Navidi

You'd have him back in the national squad a mere 2 weeks into his return from a long injury layoff? He was bang average against Wasps yesterday.

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:50 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:49 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:46 pm
Crash669 wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:44 pm Do England get another win in this six Nations? Only one I could see is Wales if they play like they did against ireland, but I can't see them being that poor against us.

We're just a very average team under Jones.
Wales will have Toby and Adams back for the next game and possibly Navidi
You'd have him back in the national squad a mere 2 weeks into his return from a long injury layoff? He was bang average against Wasps yesterday.

Now you've done it.

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:51 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:49 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:46 pm
Crash669 wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:44 pm Do England get another win in this six Nations? Only one I could see is Wales if they play like they did against ireland, but I can't see them being that poor against us.

We're just a very average team under Jones.
Wales will have Toby and Adams back for the next game and possibly Navidi
You'd have him back in the national squad a mere 2 weeks into his return from a long injury layoff? He was bang average against Wasps yesterday.

I would have Navidi back if fit tbh.
Missed Toby's comeback

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:52 pm**

Oxbow wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:37 pm
inactionman wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:31 pm
ASMO wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:01 pm There must be better tightheads around than Will Stuart
Kieran Brooks and Paul Hill both looked promising until northamponed.

HenryThomas looked tidy for bath until injury.

Who else is on list of not quites?
Hey, I'll take we ruined Hill but Brookes has been disappointing pretty much wherever he's turned up.

Harvey Beaton could be first choice THP at Saracens next season. He's very good.

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:52 pm**

inactionman wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:50 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:49 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:46 pm

Wales will have Toby and Adams back for the next game and possibly Navidi
You'd have him back in the national squad a mere 2 weeks into his return from a long injury layoff? He was bang average against Wasps yesterday.
Now you've done it.

It's part of my cunning plan to get Eddie the sack.

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:52 pm**

Possible to read too much into this

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:54 pm**

Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:52 pm Possible to read too much into this

Also possible to see it as part of a consistent trend under eddie jones back.

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:54 pm**

I realise it's early days but given the furore surrounding him, Steward has been invisible in the 2 matches.

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:54 pm**

Slick wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:48 pm Eddie just basically being a cunt to Ford, because he can.

Well that isn't anything new. Ford should really just tell him to fuck off and retire from international duty. he's been pissed around by fuckwits his whole international career. Marcus Smith is damn lucky there isn't a limited bigger kicking 10 as an alternative to him at a similar age.

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:55 pm**

Steward has taken the Mike Brown 'die with the ball' crown with aplomb

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:55 pm**

Crash669 wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:54 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:52 pm Possible to read too much into this
Also possible to see it as part of a consistent trend under eddie jones back.

Not convinced - 90% of games for all teams v Italy turn ragged/turgid. France were the same last week

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:56 pm**

petej wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:54 pm
Slick wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:48 pm Eddie just basically being a cunt to Ford, because he can.
Well that isn't anything new. Ford should really just tell him to fuck off and retire from international duty. he's been pissed around by fuckwits his whole international career. Marcus Smith is damn lucky there isn't a limited bigger kicking 10 as an alternative to him at a similar age.

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:56 pm**

Confused end to a game that petered out.

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:56 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:54 pm I realise it's early days but given the furore surrounding him, Steward has been invisible in the 2 matches.

He looks like a tall Mike Brown. Which isn't a good thing.

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:58 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:54 pm I realise it's early days but given the furore surrounding him, Steward has been invisible in the 2 matches.

I think it's fair to say that the media took his good first few caps and went massively overboard with hype.

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:59 pm**

Ref has had a poor game.

That was very, very dull

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:59 pm**

Well that……..ended.

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:59 pm**

Kawazaki wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:56 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:54 pm I realise it's early days but given the furore surrounding him, Steward has been invisible in the 2 matches.

He looks like a tall Mike Brown. Which isn't a good thing.

You and I remember Mike Brown's career very differently.

Posted: **Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:01 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:58 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:54 pm I realise it's early days but given the furore surrounding him, Steward has been invisible in the 2 matches.
I think it's fair to say that the media took his good first few caps and went massively overboard with hype.

His lack of pace has been a bit of a problem, particularly in this game. Malins too. Might have been less of an issue if Radwan was on the wing.

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