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We are going to regret not taking that 3, dumb decision

Jesus, we really are our own worst enemies sometimes.

HKCJ wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:42 pm I have an accumulator on Ireland, England, SA and Scotland. Scotland are going to fuck me aren’t they.

Fucking hell. That’s on O’keefe. Fuck him.

Peak Scotland

We just sold that one. The basic errors and lack of rugby brains is just inexcusable.

A thrilling final 10-15 minutes with Argentina's last gasp providing merciful salvation for the credibility of the upcoming alleged 'Rugby Championship' ...

Edinburgh own import beat them at the end

Well played Argentina, never gave up.

Great way to finish a series

Well that was really f''king annoying. If Toony would just stop pi55ing around with selections ..........

How many times has Price fucked us with stupid mistakes at crucial times in games.

Blackmac wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:56 pm How many times has Price fucked us with stupid mistakes at crucial times in games.

Yeah. Thought we were fucked when he kicked it out on the full.

Kind of a ‘here we go again’ moment.

Well done Argentina.

Slick wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:45 pm We are going to regret not taking that 3, dumb decision

The post aged extremely well

Eight changes is where that game was lost. OK, a couple were forced, but why unsettle winning side.

The usual Scottish ability to make mistakes and wrong decisions at critical times just compounded it.

Rowe's injury is apparently serious.

weegie01 wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 8:36 am Eight changes is where that game was lost. OK, a couple were forced, but why unsettle winning side.

The usual Scottish ability to make mistakes and wrong decisions at critical times just compounded it.

Rowe's injury is apparently serious.

Agree, it was completely nonsensical. The chat about giving players valuable international game time in this instance is bollocks, the team needed a win

I can’t help but feel, and 20/20 hindsight notwithstanding, I think we missed Gilchrist big time.

Looking for positives …….. errr, Boff had a stormer

Weegie, what have you read about Rowe?

Good luck to him, speedy recovery

ia801310 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:33 pm

Slick wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:45 pm We are going to regret not taking that 3, dumb decision

The post aged extremely well

Only had a match tracker on this one. What TF was the deal with the pen that would have taken the lead out to 7(?). Was it kickable?

The thing that really annoys me about that game is that it was the basics that cost us the series, lineouts and restarts
These have been issues for Scotland for years

I don’t really care about the decision to not take the 3, the loss didn’t happen there, it was the systems that broke down in the two areas mentioned

Anyway, Kinghorn has grown this week, Darge looks very much at home, Bennett must be in serious contention when Harris is back in the squad

Gray needs to up his game, Skinner Cummings and Gilcho are our best locks at the moment and I’d take Hodgson, Young and Sykes as their back up ,

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:11 am Weegie, what have you read about Rowe?

Good luck to him, speedy recovery

I met London Irish player socially. No details other than it is bad.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:12 am

ia801310 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:33 pm

Slick wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:45 pm We are going to regret not taking that 3, dumb decision

The post aged extremely well

Only had a match tracker on this one. What TF was the deal with the pen that would have taken the lead out to 7(?). Was it kickable?

Pretty much in front of the posts.

The really annoying this was that they pulled off a brilliant lineout ploy (similar to the one against Ireland a couple of years ago) and Gray stormed through and somehow got held up, so really close to working. It’s by the by really though, they should have taken the 3

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:12 am

ia801310 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:33 pm

Slick wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:45 pm We are going to regret not taking that 3, dumb decision

The post aged extremely well

Only had a match tracker on this one. What TF was the deal with the pen that would have taken the lead out to 7(?). Was it kickable?

Yes it was. They went for a maul and got held up.

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:20 am The thing that really annoys me about that game is that it was the basics that cost us the series, lineouts and restarts
These have been issues for Scotland for years

I don’t really care about the decision to not take the 3, the loss didn’t happen there, it was the systems that broke down in the two areas mentioned

Anyway, Kinghorn has grown this week, Darge looks very much at home, Bennett must be in serious contention when Harris is back in the squad

Gray needs to up his game, Skinner Cummings and Gilcho are our best locks at the moment and I’d take Hodgson, Young and Sykes as their back up ,

I have no idea what they will do with the back row when JR is back. He was edging world class when he got injured but who the hell do you drop out of the 3 that started last night? Darge will be scaring the shit out of any video analysts

Just watched the game.
Proper test, fair to say Argentina are back in the mix.
Scotland are cruising towards a bottom half 6N finish and a group stage RWC exit. With the talent at their disposal that’s pretty dismal and I’m staggered Townsend isn’t under more pressure.

Also can we hear less of how Anglocentric BBC coverage can be? The sky coverage of this has been borderline unwatchable, you’d hardly notice Argentina were playing.

Slick wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:54 am

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:12 am

ia801310 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:33 pm

The post aged extremely well

Only had a match tracker on this one. What TF was the deal with the pen that would have taken the lead out to 7(?). Was it kickable?

Pretty much in front of the posts.

The really annoying this was that they pulled off a brilliant lineout ploy (similar to the one against Ireland a couple of years ago) and Gray stormed through and somehow got held up, so really close to working. It’s by the by really though, they should have taken the 3

I'm with you. Take the 3 and force them to score twice to take a lead. Unless it's a must to win by a margin or increase try count.

Slick wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:56 am

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:20 am The thing that really annoys me about that game is that it was the basics that cost us the series, lineouts and restarts
These have been issues for Scotland for years

I don’t really care about the decision to not take the 3, the loss didn’t happen there, it was the systems that broke down in the two areas mentioned

Anyway, Kinghorn has grown this week, Darge looks very much at home, Bennett must be in serious contention when Harris is back in the squad

Gray needs to up his game, Skinner Cummings and Gilcho are our best locks at the moment and I’d take Hodgson, Young and Sykes as their back up ,

I have no idea what they will do with the back row when JR is back. He was edging world class when he got injured but who the hell do you drop out of the 3 that started last night? Darge will be scaring the shit out of any video analysts

@weedgie, thanks for the info

Slick, it'a amazing how far Darge has come, and to think Connor Boyle was counted as being ahead of him for the U20s and at Edinburgh, hence it was him who moved to Glasgow and Boyle stayed.
Boyle has taken longer to find his feet at pro level, but he is finding them. Bradbury moving on should provide more game time for Boyle and Crosbie, maybe Crosbie should be looking to move on, then again Big Bill won't be at Edinburgh for too much longer I shouldn't think, he's 31 in October and the big pay day won't be around for too much longer.
I know these aren't like for like players, but the back row at Edinburgh is ridiculous, and we have Muncaster and Kunavula with Rudi Brown coming up on the rails.

The thing with Ritchie is imo, he is the closest we have to Peter O'Mahony, a right royal pain in the arse for the opposition and a very good line out operator too (to be fair though, Old Moany is one of the best line out stealers in the game, so whilst I'm not making a direct comparison, Ritchie is a very good jumper)

Slick wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:56 am

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:20 am The thing that really annoys me about that game is that it was the basics that cost us the series, lineouts and restarts
These have been issues for Scotland for years

I don’t really care about the decision to not take the 3, the loss didn’t happen there, it was the systems that broke down in the two areas mentioned

Anyway, Kinghorn has grown this week, Darge looks very much at home, Bennett must be in serious contention when Harris is back in the squad

Gray needs to up his game, Skinner Cummings and Gilcho are our best locks at the moment and I’d take Hodgson, Young and Sykes as their back up ,

I have no idea what they will do with the back row when JR is back. He was edging world class when he got injured but who the hell do you drop out of the 3 that started last night? Darge will be scaring the shit out of any video analysts

Ritchie walks straight back in, Darge to the bench as he covers more options. Unfortunate for him.

Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:00 am Just watched the game.
Proper test, fair to say Argentina are back in the mix.
Scotland are cruising towards a bottom half 6N finish and a group stage RWC exit. With the talent at their disposal that’s pretty dismal and I’m staggered Townsend isn’t under more pressure.

It's the worst possible time to be looking for a coach, as Glasgow are finding, everyone is waiting until after the World Cup.

I just hope the SRU don't repeat their mistake and promote Mike Blair too soon, Toonie should really have gone to a big French club first, before becoming the big cheese at Scotland

Biffer wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:26 am

Slick wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:56 am

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:20 am The thing that really annoys me about that game is that it was the basics that cost us the series, lineouts and restarts
These have been issues for Scotland for years

I don’t really care about the decision to not take the 3, the loss didn’t happen there, it was the systems that broke down in the two areas mentioned

Anyway, Kinghorn has grown this week, Darge looks very much at home, Bennett must be in serious contention when Harris is back in the squad

Gray needs to up his game, Skinner Cummings and Gilcho are our best locks at the moment and I’d take Hodgson, Young and Sykes as their back up ,

I have no idea what they will do with the back row when JR is back. He was edging world class when he got injured but who the hell do you drop out of the 3 that started last night? Darge will be scaring the shit out of any video analysts

Ritchie walks straight back in, Darge to the bench as he covers more options. Unfortunate for him.

Darge has ten years at least ahead of him, Watson is 30, having said that you start the best player, irrespective of age, but for me that is still Watson.