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Re: Ireland vs Argentina, Autumn Internationals 2024
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:24 pm
by PornDog
Blackmac wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 8:44 am
Uncle fester wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:17 am
Blackmac wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:21 pm
Funny how the Irish who take these horrific head knocks never seem to need an HIA.
You did notice his swollen lip yeah?
Fuck sake, what do you lot not understand about the point. Yes we all noticed the swollen lip and yes there was obviously a head knock which was deemed sufficiently dangerous for a player to be carded, which is why he should have had an HIA. It would appear that the Irish from the management and medical team down, consistently fail to understand that.
I'm very much with Blackmac on this one - if there's a head collision that's bad enough to warrant a YC it should be an automatic HIA.
Another disjointed and nervy display. Hate to say it, but I think the issue is that nobody has stepped into the leadership void left by Sexy
Re: Ireland vs Argentina, Autumn Internationals 2024
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:26 pm
by Tichtheid
robmatic wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:19 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:09 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:03 pm
Yes, the odd time Saracens/England pull off a choke tackle it provokes a positive bang on the table as opposed to my usual ‘really think this is bad for the sport’!
This is way off topic, but it's something that interests me - did you, or anyone else reading this, read that sentence of mine as "if Darcy Graham had done it would have been beautiful, I'm sure"
I accidentally missed out the "have", but our brains apparently insert missing words where we expect to see them.
My brain put in the missing comma and 'it' as well
touché :-D
Re: Ireland vs Argentina, Autumn Internationals 2024
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 1:09 pm
by Uncle fester
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:21 am
Uncle fester wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:17 am
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:27 pm
Can someone explain why Lowe wasn't offside at that maul?
You can't be offside when the maul hasn't formed yet.
So it’s a matter of timing? I suppose the other Irish players hold off until Lowe gets there and plays to kill the maul, winning the scrum put in.
It’s one of those that just looks wrong
Happens very rarely and would never happen from a kick in open play. If you think it's bad, have a look at "mauls" in sevens.
It's a more dynamic form of coming around the back of a lineout maul if they transfer to the back too quickly.
Re: Ireland vs Argentina, Autumn Internationals 2024
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 1:15 pm
by Uncle fester
Blackmac wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 8:44 am
Uncle fester wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:17 am
Blackmac wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:21 pm
Funny how the Irish who take these horrific head knocks never seem to need an HIA.
You did notice his swollen lip yeah?
Fuck sake, what do you lot not understand about the point. Yes we all noticed the swollen lip and yes there was obviously a head knock which was deemed sufficiently dangerous for a player to be carded, which is why he should have had an HIA. It would appear that the Irish from the management and medical team down, consistently fail to understand that.
I don't like the casual link you draw between foul play and injury.
Re: Ireland vs Argentina, Autumn Internationals 2024
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 1:25 pm
by Blackmac
Uncle fester wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 1:15 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 8:44 am
Uncle fester wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:17 am
You did notice his swollen lip yeah?
Fuck sake, what do you lot not understand about the point. Yes we all noticed the swollen lip and yes there was obviously a head knock which was deemed sufficiently dangerous for a player to be carded, which is why he should have had an HIA. It would appear that the Irish from the management and medical team down, consistently fail to understand that.
I don't like the casual link you draw between foul play and injury.
What the actual fuck are you talking about. What casual link. I'm suggesting that players who appear to have been the victims of significant foul play should be looked after, not completely ignored as happened with the Irish on two occasions in this match. Any other point you may think I'm making is just nonsense.
Re: Ireland vs Argentina, Autumn Internationals 2024
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 1:28 pm
by Tichtheid
I'd tend to agree, if a player is sent off for contact with the head, then the player on the receiving end should be under HIA protocols. I think we should always err on the side of caution on this.
Re: Ireland vs Argentina, Autumn Internationals 2024
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 1:41 pm
by Blackmac
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 1:28 pm
I'd tend to agree, if a player is sent off for contact with the head, then the player on the receiving end should be under HIA protocols. I think we should always err on the side of caution on this.
If this is stringently enforced, it might also cut down on the level of simulation we are seeing. Win, win.
Re: Ireland vs Argentina, Autumn Internationals 2024
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 5:28 pm
by Uncle fester
Blackmac wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 1:41 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 1:28 pm
I'd tend to agree, if a player is sent off for contact with the head, then the player on the receiving end should be under HIA protocols. I think we should always err on the side of caution on this.
If this is stringently enforced, it might also cut down on the level of simulation we are seeing. Win, win.
Well that's what you were really getting at, wasn't it?