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Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:14 pm
by el capitan
We bag Slade, deservedly, for the midfield defending, but Lawrence clowns about aplenty as well. Between the two of them there's not much being offered in terms of defensive smarts.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:15 pm
by Hal Jordan
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:11 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:09 pm Slade kicks it away AGAIN.
That was just aimless and does nothing other than gives possession away.
I see you're familiar with the work of Henry Slade.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:16 pm
by Blackmac
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:13 pm Ominous for the Scottish scrum. Front row buckled badly.
I'm listening on the radio. Peter Wright says that you and the ref haven't a clue. 😂

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:19 pm
by Hal Jordan
el capitan wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:14 pm We bag Slade, deservedly, for the midfield defending, but Lawrence clowns about aplenty as well. Between the two of them there's not much being offered in terms of defensive smarts.
I'm inclined to give a 13 more leeway when he can't trust his 12, but Lawrence hasn't covered himself in glory.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:19 pm
by KingBlairhorn
Blackmac wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:16 pm
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:13 pm Ominous for the Scottish scrum. Front row buckled badly.
I'm listening on the radio. Peter Wright says that you and the ref haven't a clue. 😂
Has Peter Wright ever said anything BUT the ref doesn’t have a clue?

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:20 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
Blackmac wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:16 pm
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:13 pm Ominous for the Scottish scrum. Front row buckled badly.
I'm listening on the radio. Peter Wright says that you and the ref haven't a clue. 😂
He’s probably right to be fair.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:20 pm
by TheNatalShark
Odd knock on call, but anyway.

As usual, a lot more physically today, but Jordan and Rowe been good.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:20 pm
by sockwithaticket
Fucking canned music to try and create some 'atmosphere'. The crowd would do it themselves if there were anything worth getting excited by.

Borthwick went on and on about exciting attack in an interview with the BBC this week and what do we get, box kick after fucking box kick. Anti-rugby. We've done nothing with the ball since Freeman's try.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:22 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:20 pm Fucking canned music to try and create some 'atmosphere'. The crowd would do it themselves if there were anything worth getting excited by.

Borthwick went on and on about exciting attack in an interview with the BBC this week and what do we get, box kick after fucking box kick. Anti-rugby. We've done nothing with the ball since Freeman's try.
Like signing swing low repetitively for two minutes?

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:25 pm
by Sandstorm
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:22 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:20 pm Fucking canned music to try and create some 'atmosphere'. The crowd would do it themselves if there were anything worth getting excited by.

Borthwick went on and on about exciting attack in an interview with the BBC this week and what do we get, box kick after fucking box kick. Anti-rugby. We've done nothing with the ball since Freeman's try.
Like signing swing low repetitively for two minutes?
You should try the pub I’m in: two tables either side talking about football finances. CNUTS.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:25 pm
by Oxbow
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:20 pm Fucking canned music to try and create some 'atmosphere'. The crowd would do it themselves if there were anything worth getting excited by.

Borthwick went on and on about exciting attack in an interview with the BBC this week and what do we get, box kick after fucking box kick. Anti-rugby. We've done nothing with the ball since Freeman's try.
It feels like Mitchell box-kicks more in one England game than he does in a whole season for Saints :|

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:26 pm
by Hal Jordan
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:25 pm
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:22 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:20 pm Fucking canned music to try and create some 'atmosphere'. The crowd would do it themselves if there were anything worth getting excited by.

Borthwick went on and on about exciting attack in an interview with the BBC this week and what do we get, box kick after fucking box kick. Anti-rugby. We've done nothing with the ball since Freeman's try.
Like signing swing low repetitively for two minutes?
You should try the pub I’m in: two tables either side talking about football finances. CNUTS.
Back when I was a season ticket holder at Quins, the seats we had were the back row of the West Stand. The box behind us was always blathering on about Chelsea and little else.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:31 pm
by sockwithaticket
The constant kicking isn't getting us out of our half for more than 2 seconds at a time. If we don't switch tactics the second half will just be more of the same - doing our best to weather Scottish pressure while not creating any scoring chances.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:32 pm
by Sandstorm
ShoeMan got his Cinderella shoes on tonight

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:32 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
England scrambling defence late in the first half but not offering much on attack. Will no doubt result in an English try but there, I’ve said it.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:33 pm
by sturginho
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:32 pm England scrambling defence late in the first half but not offering much on attack. Will no doubt result in an English try but there, I’ve said it.
Almost

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:33 pm
by Hal Jordan
WTF was that second offload about?

Take it down and go again!

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:33 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:32 pm England scrambling defence late in the first half but not offering much on attack. Will no doubt result in an English try but there, I’ve said it.
Fk me. I’ll log out.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:34 pm
by el capitan
Great burst and offload in midfield. Totally butchered after that.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:34 pm
by sockwithaticket
Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:33 pm WTF was that second offload about?

Take it down and go again!
Act of desperation born from the fact we had fuck all time in their 22.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:34 pm
by KingBlairhorn
English attack not great but the defence was excellent.

Scotland dominating possession but very wasteful in attack. Shit the bed at least 3 times in great positions. Thats what separates Scotland from the top teams, execution is sporadic at best.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:35 pm
by Torquemada 1420
PCPhil wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:08 pm Bugger. These guys don't drop the ball.
Metaphorically?

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:35 pm
by Punter15
If we can’t convert that into more than a 3 point lead, then we’re in trouble.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:38 pm
by Hal Jordan
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:34 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:33 pm WTF was that second offload about?

Take it down and go again!
Act of desperation born from the fact we had fuck all time in their 22.
Sums up England's three attacking strategies:-

1). Box kick it;
2). Aimless grubber kick, probably by Slade; and
3). Play the Do or Die card miracle play attempt.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:40 pm
by Hal Jordan
It's weird how bad England are at stopping Van Der Merwe. He is a hugely effective attacking weapon, but there seems to be a massive mental block about him.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:53 pm
by Sandstorm
Slade. Stealing a living in this sport.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:54 pm
by Oxbow
Daly to start next week then.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:54 pm
by PCPhil
Well that's a vot of confidence

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:55 pm
by Kawazaki
Borthwick's pathologically low risk ethos is writ large all over this performance.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:55 pm
by sockwithaticket
I really don't see the point in sending players back out after half time if you're going to sub them in <10 minutes later, let alone <5.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:56 pm
by Hal Jordan
Feel sorry for Sleighthome, he's barely touched the ball and just chased box kicks and bombs, then dragged off.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:56 pm
by salanya
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:55 pm I really don't see the point in sending players back out after half time if you're going to sub them in <10 minutes later, let alone <5.
+1500

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:57 pm
by PCPhil
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:55 pm I really don't see the point in sending players back out after half time if you're going to sub them in <10 minutes later, let alone <5.
3D chess. Or just a fukin moron. One of them.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:58 pm
by TheNatalShark
Curry going off is encouraging from Scots perspective

Pity injury enforced

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:58 pm
by Oxbow
Hey Borthers, here's a chance to bring on Ted Hill! Nah, mate.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:59 pm
by Torquemada 1420
I'm feeling better that Fra aren't the only chokers. Cheers Scotland. :thumbup:

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:01 pm
by Hal Jordan
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:55 pm Borthwick's pathologically low risk ethos is writ large all over this performance.
If you're picking the Smiths and a notionally attacking 12 in Slade, plus a very mobile 7 in Earl, a slow, deliberate kicking game is the obvious way to attack.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:03 pm
by Kawazaki
Marcus Smith simply can't tackle like Fin Smith just did.

He does have better hair though TBF.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:04 pm
by Kawazaki
Hal Jordan wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:01 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 5:55 pm Borthwick's pathologically low risk ethos is writ large all over this performance.
If you're picking the Smiths and a notionally attacking 12 in Slade, plus a very mobile 7 in Earl, a slow, deliberate kicking game is the obvious way to attack.


Yet the evidence suggests you're obviously wrong.

Re: 2025 6N thread

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:05 pm
by sockwithaticket
English ball presentation and ruck clearance is diabolical.

Starting to rack up the knock ons on attack too.