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Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:00 pm
by Tichtheid
Big D wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:58 am
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:56 am That last ten minutes had just about everything in it, including controversy
I'd need to watch it again but in real time I think that was just awful refereeing. Awful. Might have saved Fosters job too.

I think he was within his rights, but on the other hand he wouldn't have penalised that at any other point in the game, so it's a bit bollocks.

Aussie still should have kept them out, though

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:06 pm
by Big D
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:00 pm
Big D wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:58 am
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:56 am That last ten minutes had just about everything in it, including controversy
I'd need to watch it again but in real time I think that was just awful refereeing. Awful. Might have saved Fosters job too.

I think he was within his rights, but on the other hand he wouldn't have penalised that at any other point in the game, so it's a bit bollocks.

Aussie still should have kept them out, though
It is the inconsistency. If you're not calling it in the 1st 77min then you shouldn't in the last 3. It didn't seem especially egregious IMO.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:14 pm
by Deepsouth
Absolutely fuckin robbed. You pedantic french prick. Oh well when we get our 15 injured boys back we will see.....

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:15 pm
by Deepsouth
Absolutely fuckin robbed. You pedantic french prick. Oh well when we get our 15 injured boys back we will see.....

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:25 pm
by Thor Sedan
Deepsouth wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:14 pm Absolutely fuckin robbed. You pedantic french prick. Oh well when we get our 15 injured boys back we will see.....
There is a kind of sweet karma about this - when a player goes into a static collision targeting a vulnerable area - possibly intentionally. And when the result of that could have very well been a career ending injury on an opposing player - then yeah......while mystified at the ruling - I have a smug sense of satisfaction with it.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:31 pm
by Tichtheid
The kick must be taken within 60 seconds (playing time) from the time the team indicated their intention to do so, even if the ball rolls over and has to be placed again. Sanction: Kick is disallowed and a scrum is awarded.

The penalty was awarded at 78:24, and the scrum awarded at 79:04.

Rayanal fucked that up

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:44 pm
by Deepsouth
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:31 pm
The kick must be taken within 60 seconds (playing time) from the time the team indicated their intention to do so, even if the ball rolls over and has to be placed again. Sanction: Kick is disallowed and a scrum is awarded.

The penalty was awarded at 78:24, and the scrum awarded at 79:04.

Rayanal fucked that up
Yes and the Kiwi grace is telling isn't it.......

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:48 pm
by FalseBayFC
There are no lengths to which Foster will not go to keep the job. Including handing out Rolexes.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:52 pm
by Big D
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:31 pm
The kick must be taken within 60 seconds (playing time) from the time the team indicated their intention to do so, even if the ball rolls over and has to be placed again. Sanction: Kick is disallowed and a scrum is awarded.

The penalty was awarded at 78:24, and the scrum awarded at 79:04.

Rayanal fucked that up
That refers to a shot at goal?
Law 20.5 states a penalty or free kick should be taken without delay. Not that I agree with his decision.

Law 10.7.d also suggests the sanction for time wasting is a free kick.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:06 pm
by sockwithaticket
Deepsouth wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:15 pm Absolutely fuckin robbed. You pedantic french prick. Oh well when we get our 15 injured boys back we will see.....
Aussies are always whinging about their injury list. Every team always has key injuries. Sometimes more than others, but you're rarely substantially worse off than anyone else and no one ever gets the mythical first XV out on the pitch these days. It's just the modern game, if you don't have the depth then you won't win and hold

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:07 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Strange game this. The Aussies have Nic White to blame for that.

After today I feel comfortable for the Springboks playing this two in a WC final.

The ref was good.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:10 pm
by Hal Jordan
Just seen that knee job Swain perpetrated. What a cunt.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:18 pm
by OomStruisbaai
The All Blacks defense wasn't even close to the previous test. The Wallabies broke their defense at will. I thought the Aussie backline was pretty good today. It was the yellow cards and dissipline that cost them.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:19 pm
by Thor Sedan
Watching the replay you can see a couple of the backs yelling at Foley to kick it - in fact Foketi is screaming at him.

You don't like to see it - but Foley has to hold his hands up on this one I think. The timewasting was pretty ridiculous.

Thought the Ref actually explained it pretty well - although I don't know if the award of the scrum was right or if it should have been a free kick?

Needless to say it will rumble on for quite a while.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:21 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Springbokke will have to go for broke on saturday. This will force RasNaber for running rugby.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:25 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Thor Sedan wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:19 pm Watching the replay you can see a couple of the backs yelling at Foley to kick it - in fact Foketi is screaming at him.

You don't like to see it - but Foley has to hold his hands up on this one I think. The timewasting was pretty ridiculous.

Thought the Ref actually explained it pretty well - although I don't know if the award of the scrum was right or if it should have been a free kick?

Needless to say it will rumble on for quite a while.
Yes. Our lot had to adobt to the NH refs. It took a few big losses but in the end it works. Both the All Blacks and Wallabies will need to adjust. Nic White attitude is the last thing you want.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:29 pm
by OomStruisbaai

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:30 pm
by Deepsouth
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:25 pm
Thor Sedan wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:19 pm Watching the replay you can see a couple of the backs yelling at Foley to kick it - in fact Foketi is screaming at him.

You don't like to see it - but Foley has to hold his hands up on this one I think. The timewasting was pretty ridiculous.

Thought the Ref actually explained it pretty well - although I don't know if the award of the scrum was right or if it should have been a free kick?

Needless to say it will rumble on for quite a while.
Yes. Our lot had to adobt to the NH refs. It took a few big losses but in the end it works. Both the All Blacks and Wallabies will need to adjust. Nic White attitude is the last thing you want.
It's really humorous if you can't see we were robbed well reason has gone the way of Trump. Fuckin delusional....

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:30 pm
by Deepsouth
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:25 pm
Thor Sedan wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:19 pm Watching the replay you can see a couple of the backs yelling at Foley to kick it - in fact Foketi is screaming at him.

You don't like to see it - but Foley has to hold his hands up on this one I think. The timewasting was pretty ridiculous.

Thought the Ref actually explained it pretty well - although I don't know if the award of the scrum was right or if it should have been a free kick?

Needless to say it will rumble on for quite a while.
Yes. Our lot had to adobt to the NH refs. It took a few big losses but in the end it works. Both the All Blacks and Wallabies will need to adjust. Nic White attitude is the last thing you want.
It's really humorous if you can't see we were robbed well reason has gone the way of Trump. Fuckin delusional....

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:33 pm
by Thor Sedan
Deepsouth wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:30 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:25 pm
Thor Sedan wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:19 pm Watching the replay you can see a couple of the backs yelling at Foley to kick it - in fact Foketi is screaming at him.

You don't like to see it - but Foley has to hold his hands up on this one I think. The timewasting was pretty ridiculous.

Thought the Ref actually explained it pretty well - although I don't know if the award of the scrum was right or if it should have been a free kick?

Needless to say it will rumble on for quite a while.
Yes. Our lot had to adobt to the NH refs. It took a few big losses but in the end it works. Both the All Blacks and Wallabies will need to adjust. Nic White attitude is the last thing you want.
It's really humorous if you can't see we were robbed well reason has gone the way of Trump. Fuckin delusional....
You weren't robbed - you didn't play the ref right. And the time wasting was pointless. Kick it out, win the lineout, hold it in, kick it out, win.

Strange that some players in your team were screaming at Foley and reacted with an almost 'I told you so' attitude.

It was dumb play - you have a right to be dirty about it - but you weren't robbed.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:34 pm
by Chilli
Great win by the All Blacks.

If only the Australian supporters were as gracious in defeat as they are in winning.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:41 pm
by Deepsouth
Chilli wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:34 pm Great win by the All Blacks.

If only the Australian supporters were as gracious in defeat as they are in winning.
Grace and and a South African. Last time I saw that was my Grandfathers old mate. Craven. They were old mates played against each other in 37. Looked up each other in London during the War. Kept up to their death. He wasn't to keen on the new Springbok either if you know the Doctor.......

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:42 pm
by JM2K6
French refs usually throw the lawbook away, not go for obscure shit

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:50 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Deepsouth wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:30 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:25 pm
Thor Sedan wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:19 pm Watching the replay you can see a couple of the backs yelling at Foley to kick it - in fact Foketi is screaming at him.

You don't like to see it - but Foley has to hold his hands up on this one I think. The timewasting was pretty ridiculous.

Thought the Ref actually explained it pretty well - although I don't know if the award of the scrum was right or if it should have been a free kick?

Needless to say it will rumble on for quite a while.
Yes. Our lot had to adobt to the NH refs. It took a few big losses but in the end it works. Both the All Blacks and Wallabies will need to adjust. Nic White attitude is the last thing you want.
It's really humorous if you can't see we were robbed well reason has gone the way of Trump. Fuckin delusional....
Boet honestly many Saffers felt the same in that first Test against the Boks. I never agree with them. Professional players must play the ref. I couldn't believe the Wallabies fight back. It was awesome to watch. This All Blacks team is far from the past sides.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:57 pm
by Thor Sedan
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:50 pm
Deepsouth wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:30 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:25 pm

Yes. Our lot had to adobt to the NH refs. It took a few big losses but in the end it works. Both the All Blacks and Wallabies will need to adjust. Nic White attitude is the last thing you want.
It's really humorous if you can't see we were robbed well reason has gone the way of Trump. Fuckin delusional....
Boet honestly many Saffers felt the same in that first Test against the Boks. I never agree with them. Professional players must play the ref. I couldn't believe the Wallabies fight back. It was awesome to watch. This All Blacks team is far from the past sides.
Yep - just papering over cracks and pretending everything is OK.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:01 pm
by Deepsouth
All three of us are not at our best. Thing is let's not give these northerners an easy road gentleman........

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:14 pm
by Deepsouth
Chilli wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:34 pm Great win by the All Blacks.

If only the Australian supporters were as gracious in defeat as they are in winning.
Did you know the Doctor Chilli boy?

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:35 pm
by SaintK
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:25 pm
Thor Sedan wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:19 pm Watching the replay you can see a couple of the backs yelling at Foley to kick it - in fact Foketi is screaming at him.

You don't like to see it - but Foley has to hold his hands up on this one I think. The timewasting was pretty ridiculous.

Thought the Ref actually explained it pretty well - although I don't know if the award of the scrum was right or if it should have been a free kick?

Needless to say it will rumble on for quite a while.
Yes. Our lot had to adobt to the NH refs. It took a few big losses but in the end it works. Both the All Blacks and Wallabies will need to adjust. Nic White attitude is the last thing you want.
What the fuck do you think NH teams have to do with refs from down South. It's the same for everyone North or South

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:43 pm
by Deepsouth
SaintK wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:35 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:25 pm
Thor Sedan wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:19 pm Watching the replay you can see a couple of the backs yelling at Foley to kick it - in fact Foketi is screaming at him.

You don't like to see it - but Foley has to hold his hands up on this one I think. The timewasting was pretty ridiculous.

Thought the Ref actually explained it pretty well - although I don't know if the award of the scrum was right or if it should have been a free kick?

Needless to say it will rumble on for quite a while.
Yes. Our lot had to adobt to the NH refs. It took a few big losses but in the end it works. Both the All Blacks and Wallabies will need to adjust. Nic White attitude is the last thing you want.
What the fuck do you think NH teams have to do with refs from down South. It's the same for everyone North or South
In the end old boy it's currently 8-1 to us. Really you should hang your heads in shame. 8-1 to the colonials, quickly get me some snuff lol .......

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:44 pm
by assfly
I missed the game, but enjoying the photos of Nick White looking distraught. :lol:

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:45 pm
by Ymx
I enjoyed watching that, at work with our FD who is an Aus.

I thought we were stupid to not take that penalty for the draw,. And I was nearly proved right.

However it all ended up rather deliciously.

:grin:

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:46 pm
by Paddington Bear
Reading stuff online earlier I was under the impression that there had been an absolute howler. Watching it... not so much. The Aussie players are screaming at him to kick it, so clearly the message had got through to their players. And the amount of timewasting that goes on in the last 10 mins of games has reached ludicrous levels. I don't mind it.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:52 pm
by Deepsouth
assfly wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:44 pm I missed the game, but enjoying the photos of Nick White looking distraught. :lol:
As I said to Oom earlier, just like Hansie every dog has its day lol.....

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:20 pm
by Monk
Deepsouth wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:41 pm
Chilli wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:34 pm Great win by the All Blacks.

If only the Australian supporters were as gracious in defeat as they are in winning.
Grace and and a South African. Last time I saw that was my Grandfathers old mate. Craven. They were old mates played against each other in 37. Looked up each other in London during the War. Kept up to their death. He wasn't to keen on the new Springbok either if you know the Doctor.......
What is this supposed to mean?

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:23 pm
by Monk
Deepsouth wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:14 pm
Chilli wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:34 pm Great win by the All Blacks.

If only the Australian supporters were as gracious in defeat as they are in winning.
Did you know the Doctor Chilli boy?
And this?

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:28 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Monk wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:20 pm
Deepsouth wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:41 pm
Chilli wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:34 pm Great win by the All Blacks.

If only the Australian supporters were as gracious in defeat as they are in winning.
Grace and and a South African. Last time I saw that was my Grandfathers old mate. Craven. They were old mates played against each other in 37. Looked up each other in London during the War. Kept up to their death. He wasn't to keen on the new Springbok either if you know the Doctor.......
What is this supposed to mean?
Deepsouth is our only Wallaby supporter. :thumbup:

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:39 pm
by SaintK
Deepsouth wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:43 pm
SaintK wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:35 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:25 pm

Yes. Our lot had to adobt to the NH refs. It took a few big losses but in the end it works. Both the All Blacks and Wallabies will need to adjust. Nic White attitude is the last thing you want.
What the fuck do you think NH teams have to do with refs from down South. It's the same for everyone North or South
In the end old boy it's currently 8-1 to us. Really you should hang your heads in shame. 8-1 to the colonials, quickly get me some snuff lol .......
Wibble!

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:03 pm
by OomStruisbaai
SaintK wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:35 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:25 pm
Thor Sedan wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:19 pm Watching the replay you can see a couple of the backs yelling at Foley to kick it - in fact Foketi is screaming at him.

You don't like to see it - but Foley has to hold his hands up on this one I think. The timewasting was pretty ridiculous.

Thought the Ref actually explained it pretty well - although I don't know if the award of the scrum was right or if it should have been a free kick?

Needless to say it will rumble on for quite a while.
Yes. Our lot had to adobt to the NH refs. It took a few big losses but in the end it works. Both the All Blacks and Wallabies will need to adjust. Nic White attitude is the last thing you want.
What the fuck do you think NH teams have to do with refs from down South. It's the same for everyone North or South
Ja sure. The SH refs let the game flow and isn't that much whistle happy. So it's about adopting to the ref. The professional coaches and players study the refs but the supporters blame the ref iso his own players.

:grin: Sure you get my drift. :think:

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:35 pm
by Sards
South Africans love blaming the ref. It's our national pastime after braai.

Re: 2022 The Rugby Championship

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:36 pm
by Sards
Saw the highlights of the match today . Looked a cracker. Can't wait for the full match to load.