NPR

Redbull looks absolutely planted on this track; will be tough to beat.

Thor Sedan wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:33 pm Probable grid penalty coming up for Lewis.

F1 has really become a silly show.

No penalty. Just a reprimand. Probably lucky it’s a new track.

How has no-one died in this quali session yet?? This track is lethal for fast cars coming up blind on slow ones!

fishfoodie wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:32 pm Redbull looks absolutely planted on this track; will be tough to beat.

Hmmm, Hamilton may be whinging and complaining but he still had a very quick lap there.

Why did Hamilton put in another lap on those tyres? He was safe on time.

Big D wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:44 pm Why did Hamilton put in another lap on those tyres? He was safe on time.

Another crazy Merc tactic. I guess he wants maximum laps on a new track?

Max clips the wall!!! Damaged his car. Grid penalties for new parts from 3rd beckons…..

Sandstorm wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:46 pm

Big D wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:44 pm Why did Hamilton put in another lap on those tyres? He was safe on time.

Another crazy Merc tactic. I guess he wants maximum laps on a new track?

Verstappen fucks his final lap.

salanya wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:43 pm

fishfoodie wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:32 pm Redbull looks absolutely planted on this track; will be tough to beat.

Hmmm, Hamilton may be whinging and complaining but he still had a very quick lap there.

There you go.

Max just pushed the last lap so much. Shame, poll was there.

salanya wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:03 pm

salanya wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:43 pm

fishfoodie wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:32 pm Redbull looks absolutely planted on this track; will be tough to beat.

Hmmm, Hamilton may be whinging and complaining but he still had a very quick lap there.

There you go.

Max just pushed the last lap so much. Shame, poll was there.

This track is dangerous, but also very exciting during qualifying. The race with 20 loons out there together is going to be just insane!!!!

Already some big crashes in F2 apparently......

Everyone wearing masks on the grid except Toto and Christian. Cunts.

I don't see the sense in them not taking the new gear box then telling him to be careful. He's about to enter the heat of a championship battle.

A DNF would be a disaster. In saying that he'll probably win now.

That Aston safety car sounds glorious between the walls

No one forced you to pit lads.

Jaysus the bitching & whining is off the charts

Verstappen caused that whole accident!!

Halo saves Mazepin’s face from wearing Russell’s gearbox.

What a mess. The issues, the whining, the nerves.

This track is just madness.

Perhaps Verstappen has to give a place back, and Hamilton should get a penalty for not keeping within range in the formation lap, and Bottas should still get that penalty for slowing Max down during the first yellow flag.

Just give it to Ocon, and never come back here

salanya wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:25 pm What a mess. The issues, the whining, the nerves.

This track is just madness.

Perhaps Verstappen has to give a place back, and Hamilton should get a penalty for not keeping within range in the formation lap, and Bottas should still get that penalty for slowing Max down during the first yellow flag.

Just give it to Ocon, and never come back here

I’m ok with that

After a great restart previously; that was a bang average one from Hamilton

If Verstappen wins this, with everything that's gone in his favour here, there's no chance he loses the title race. Hamilton would be lucky to finish the final race.

Alonso talking a lot of sense

fishfoodie wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:07 pm Alonso talking a lot of sense

Yeah. Race director is probably asking Red Bull what they want to do first, though...

JM2K6 wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:09 pm

fishfoodie wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:07 pm Alonso talking a lot of sense

Yeah. Race director is probably asking Red Bull what they want to do first, though...

Don't drown on those salty tears, especially whilst the race is still ongoing.

JM2K6 wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:09 pm

fishfoodie wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:07 pm Alonso talking a lot of sense

Yeah. Race director is probably asking Red Bull what they want to do first, though...

Well endless VSC laps will probably help Maxs tyres get to the end; but this isn't the track to have a tyre explode on you; because of debris; & I always get the shivers when I see marshalls dart out on track.

salanya wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:13 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:09 pm

fishfoodie wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:07 pm Alonso talking a lot of sense

Yeah. Race director is probably asking Red Bull what they want to do first, though...

Don't drown on those salty tears, especially whilst the race is still ongoing.

Yes, I'm sobbing here by making a little joke about an odd situation. Bargaining with red bull to find what penalty they'd accept was very strange and it's very odd that Hamilton was essentially penalised for Verstappen's illegality.

I'm half English half Dutch, so a little more balanced than you here...

fishfoodie wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:13 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:09 pm

fishfoodie wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:07 pm Alonso talking a lot of sense

Yeah. Race director is probably asking Red Bull what they want to do first, though...

Well endless VSC laps will probably help Maxs tyres get to the end; but this isn't the track to have a tyre explode on you; because of debris; & I always get the shivers when I see marshalls dart out on track.

It's a horrible, horrible track, no doubt.

JM2K6 wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:15 pm

salanya wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:13 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:09 pm

Yeah. Race director is probably asking Red Bull what they want to do first, though...

Don't drown on those salty tears, especially whilst the race is still ongoing.

Yes, I'm sobbing here by making a little joke about an odd situation. Bargaining with red bull to find what penalty they'd accept was very strange and it's very odd that Hamilton was essentially penalised for Verstappen's illegality.

I'm half English half Dutch, so a little more balanced than you here...

What a justification for your 'sense of humour'

Verstappen was put back two places, so how was Hamilton penalised?
Hamilton still has the quicker car.

Verstappen giving back the place didn't work well

Max should give the place now, otherwise their reason for that issue is non-valid.

If Jerry Bruckheimer wrote F1 scripts

salanya wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:22 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:15 pm

salanya wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:13 pm

Don't drown on those salty tears, especially whilst the race is still ongoing.

Yes, I'm sobbing here by making a little joke about an odd situation. Bargaining with red bull to find what penalty they'd accept was very strange and it's very odd that Hamilton was essentially penalised for Verstappen's illegality.

I'm half English half Dutch, so a little more balanced than you here...

What a justification for your 'sense of humour'

Verstappen was put back two places, so how was Hamilton penalised?
Hamilton still has the quicker car.

Verstappen giving back the place didn't work well

I see you've not bothered to address Red Bull being asked what penalty they'd accept.

Hamilton was leading, then Verstappen jumped the corner and Hamilton had to brake to avoid getting fucked, which let Ocon through. Red Bull demanded that Hamilton not be given the lead back despite him only losing it because of the illegal work of Verstappen.

Anyway - Verstappen trying to wipe Hamilton out, then gets told to hand him the place, then just brakes with Hamilton behind him and doesn't give him any room...

Controversial stuff.

F1 men are such drama queens.

Who would want to be a race director?!

Verstappen with a five second penalty, but it looks like with the damage to Lewis's car he has the pace to make it up anyway.

Michael Masi is demonstrating what the Peter Principal is here. Totally out of his depth.

JM: there wasn't a 'which penalty they'd accept', they either could take the 2 penalty places, or have it referred to the stewards. Which would probably result in the same penalty.

Or in the 5 seconds penalty he has now.

I agree it's all an absolute mess, partly caused by this mad circuit, and both teams are playing games as well and are just as culpable to the mess.

Come on Ocon, for the decency of this race, get that third place (please)

salanya wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:32 pm JM: there wasn't a 'which penalty they'd accept', they either could take the 2 penalty places, or have it referred to the stewards. Which would probably result in the same penalty.

Or in the 5 seconds penalty he has now.

I agree it's all an absolute mess, partly caused by this mad circuit, and both teams are playing games as well and are just as culpable to the mess.

How often have you seen that sort of bargaining? Red Bull said they'd accept it if lewis stayed in second - why on earth are they being bargained with like that?

I don't think Mercedes have done a lot wrong here.

Bottas you utter wanker/spoilsport


Well, that was that.

JM2K6 wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:40 pm

salanya wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:32 pm JM: there wasn't a 'which penalty they'd accept', they either could take the 2 penalty places, or have it referred to the stewards. Which would probably result in the same penalty.

Or in the 5 seconds penalty he has now.

I agree it's all an absolute mess, partly caused by this mad circuit, and both teams are playing games as well and are just as culpable to the mess.

How often have you seen that sort of bargaining? Red Bull said they'd accept it if lewis stayed in second - why on earth are they being bargained with like that?

I don't think Mercedes have done a lot wrong here.

I think that'll happen more than we think. It was the equivalent of them being told mid race to give back position.

Not seen the last whack if laps bit did Max brake test Hamilton?