Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:24 pm
Chemical weapons used allegedly.
A place where escape goats go to play
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Where was the resistance when Putin was massacering Chechens ?Calculon wrote: Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:05 pm It wasn't just the majority of ethnic Russians keeping their heads down while Russia was attempting genocide in Ukraine, but all the myriad ethic groups that make up the Russian empire. Even most Crimean Tartars were silent. Most people would be when the alternative is a Russian jail and a good chance of being tortured.
There was an interesting piece on a small Siberian ethnic group (forgot their name) and why many of their men joined up. Escape from crushing poverty and despair, money and the chance to kill white people, were some of the reasons given. To them there were no difference between white Ukrainians and Russians, and both were thought of as oppressors.
There's also a video going round on Twitter of a women protester in Moscow being bundled into a police van. Moments later she starts screaming, and screaming. The type of screams that suggests she is terrified and quite possibly having extreme pain inflicted on her. Not being able to see what is happening to her makes it somehow worse.
Anyway, my point is we should welcome any resistance to the Russian war effort, even from people whose motives might be selfish.
I spend a lot of time with Indian born people in Britain, and travel to India semi-regularly. What I hear from otherwise sensible people on politics/race increasingly unnerves me and we need to be much more proactive here at stamping down on RSS style movements, who are fascists, let's not mince our words. I wonder what the future holds for India, but this has got worse and worse under Modi and Nehru's vision seems dead.EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 5:21 pmIt's a great example. They are aggressively nationalist with a hardcore violent fringe and lots of them are thick as dog shit. I mean the hard-core nationalists not Indians before I get banned.petej wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:56 pmThe trouble in Leicester is partly due to Indian Hindu Nationalism.EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:50 pm India is a shambles. They could be genuinely dangerous at some point
The sooner you move them out of their locality, the harder it is for them to do a bunk from the camp, & disappear; they won't have friends in area, & they'll have the wrong accent.tabascoboy wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:58 am Seems that a large number of new "recruits", especially from areas with some unrest due to the mobilization are already in transport towards the zone of conflict and Crimea, suggesting that training will be absolutely minimal before they are thrown into combat and not even the claimed 2 weeks. Putin's strategy, such as it is, appears merely to throw bodies into the most contested areas - not much point posting them behind the lines if the intention is to rotate and refresh units that have been clobbered.
They'll rout at first contact. It'll be like Shogun Total War with yari ashigaru up against gold chevron samurai. The rout could/will cause better units to rout as well.tabascoboy wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:58 am Seems that a large number of new "recruits", especially from areas with some unrest due to the mobilization are already in transport towards the zone of conflict and Crimea, suggesting that training will be absolutely minimal before they are thrown into combat and not even the claimed 2 weeks. Putin's strategy, such as it is, appears merely to throw bodies into the most contested areas - not much point posting them behind the lines if the intention is to rotate and refresh units that have been clobbered.
Predictably - it must be Western Agitators!EnergiseR2 wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:39 am Had a Swatika t-shirt on. Yeah right. One of the other ways Putin consolidated power was the Russian bombings apartment bombings carried out by the FSB that allowed him invade the poor old Chechens again.
https://www.independent.ie/world-news/g ... 16914.html
Unfortunately, our previous Home Secretary was an unashamed cheerleader for Modi and the BJP so she was hardly engaged in stopping it over here. Her replacement seems a little more engaged in stopping it, but I doubt it's for any deep understanding of the underlying causes.Paddington Bear wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 7:54 amI spend a lot of time with Indian born people in Britain, and travel to India semi-regularly. What I hear from otherwise sensible people on politics/race increasingly unnerves me and we need to be much more proactive here at stamping down on RSS style movements, who are fascists, let's not mince our words. I wonder what the future holds for India, but this has got worse and worse under Modi and Nehru's vision seems dead.EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 5:21 pmIt's a great example. They are aggressively nationalist with a hardcore violent fringe and lots of them are thick as dog shit. I mean the hard-core nationalists not Indians before I get banned.petej wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:56 pm
The trouble in Leicester is partly due to Indian Hindu Nationalism.
There is information that in the Lugansk region. the first batch of "partially mobilized" from Russia finished fighting ahead of schedule.
Many will return home much faster than expected, however, in the status of cargo 200. A large number of wounded occupiers are also reported after an explosive incident
with a Russian train.
The Zapp Brannigan school of warfare...tabascoboy wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:58 am Seems that a large number of new "recruits", especially from areas with some unrest due to the mobilization are already in transport towards the zone of conflict and Crimea, suggesting that training will be absolutely minimal before they are thrown into combat and not even the claimed 2 weeks. Putin's strategy, such as it is, appears merely to throw bodies into the most contested areas - not much point posting them behind the lines if the intention is to rotate and refresh units that have been clobbered.
]Nord Stream pipeline sustains 'unprecedented damage'
Three offshore lines of the Nord Stream gas pipeline system have sustained "unprecedented" damage in one day, Nord Stream AG, the operator of the network, has said.
Sweden's Maritime Authority said two leaks had been found in the Nord Stream 1 pipeline.
Denmark is also restricting shipping after another leak on the nearby Nord Stream 2 pipeline was found.
Both pipelines contained gas under pressure, but neither of them was pumping gas to Europe at the time leaks were found.
The pipelines have been at the centre of the energy dispute between Europe and Russia since the start of the war in Ukraine.
Nord Stream AG, the operator of the network, has said it is impossible to estimate when the gas network system's working capability will be restored.
Russian state media has announced the preliminary results of the so-called referendums being held in occupied parts of Ukraine. With about a fifth of votes counted, it is reported that an overwhelming majority have voted in favour of joining Russia:
97% in Kherson region
98% in Zaporizhzhia
98% in “Donetsk People’s Republic”
98% in “Luhansk People’s Republic”
I would vote for Wales to become part of Ireland if I could.GogLais wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 12:29 pm Any chance the UK could have a vote to be part of somewhere?
PornDog wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:02 pmOf course not, but they still wont be so brazen as to make it 98% or 99%laurent wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:33 pmWith a week to organise no sane person will think it is.PornDog wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:06 pm Free and fair referendum bingo - whats your guess for the percentage of people that will vote to join Russia?
I'm going with 92% - big enough to be overwhelming, but not quite crossing into that too big zone where you lose the plausible claim that its legit!
Meaning that Putin can claim any attacks on these regions as an attack on Russian territory, which could trigger the fucking lunatic to respond with a nuclear option...tabascoboy wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:45 pm Well how could anyone possibly not believe these results?![]()
Russian state media has announced the preliminary results of the so-called referendums being held in occupied parts of Ukraine. With about a fifth of votes counted, it is reported that an overwhelming majority have voted in favour of joining Russia:
97% in Kherson region
98% in Zaporizhzhia
98% in “Donetsk People’s Republic”
98% in “Luhansk People’s Republic”
He's already been told to get to fück on that idea.geordie_6 wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 8:03 pmMeaning that Putin can claim any attacks on these regions as an attack on Russian territory, which could trigger the fucking lunatic to respond with a nuclear option...tabascoboy wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:45 pm Well how could anyone possibly not believe these results?![]()
Russian state media has announced the preliminary results of the so-called referendums being held in occupied parts of Ukraine. With about a fifth of votes counted, it is reported that an overwhelming majority have voted in favour of joining Russia:
97% in Kherson region
98% in Zaporizhzhia
98% in “Donetsk People’s Republic”
98% in “Luhansk People’s Republic”
By the US?Uncle fester wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 8:08 pmHe's already been told to get to fück on that idea.geordie_6 wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 8:03 pmMeaning that Putin can claim any attacks on these regions as an attack on Russian territory, which could trigger the fucking lunatic to respond with a nuclear option...tabascoboy wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:45 pm Well how could anyone possibly not believe these results?![]()
tabascoboy wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 10:25 am So what's gong on with the Nordstream connections?
]Nord Stream pipeline sustains 'unprecedented damage'
Three offshore lines of the Nord Stream gas pipeline system have sustained "unprecedented" damage in one day, Nord Stream AG, the operator of the network, has said.
Sweden's Maritime Authority said two leaks had been found in the Nord Stream 1 pipeline.
Denmark is also restricting shipping after another leak on the nearby Nord Stream 2 pipeline was found.
Both pipelines contained gas under pressure, but neither of them was pumping gas to Europe at the time leaks were found.
The pipelines have been at the centre of the energy dispute between Europe and Russia since the start of the war in Ukraine.
Nord Stream AG, the operator of the network, has said it is impossible to estimate when the gas network system's working capability will be restored.
I'm fucking tired of the prick. Time for western governments to start fucking the Russians in our countries. Starting with Lebedev. Say bye bye to your newspapers, property and title. Don't think I missed his shitty article on how putin should be invited to QE2 funeral or years of the independents weird putin blindspot. https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/mandra ... s-funeral/Calculon wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 8:17 pmtabascoboy wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 10:25 am So what's gong on with the Nordstream connections?
]Nord Stream pipeline sustains 'unprecedented damage'
Three offshore lines of the Nord Stream gas pipeline system have sustained "unprecedented" damage in one day, Nord Stream AG, the operator of the network, has said.
Sweden's Maritime Authority said two leaks had been found in the Nord Stream 1 pipeline.
Denmark is also restricting shipping after another leak on the nearby Nord Stream 2 pipeline was found.
Both pipelines contained gas under pressure, but neither of them was pumping gas to Europe at the time leaks were found.
The pipelines have been at the centre of the energy dispute between Europe and Russia since the start of the war in Ukraine.
Nord Stream AG, the operator of the network, has said it is impossible to estimate when the gas network system's working capability will be restored.![]()