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Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:01 am**

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:53 am
Fat Old Git wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:12 am Problem is it's not really that enthralling. Dull is how I would mostly describe it. It's the test cricket of the election world.

Now hang on a minute, test cricket is enthralling. Although it does present the question which cricketer would Donald Trump be? The obvious answer would be a fat, blond moron with addiction problems who has dated some surprisingly attractive women, though I will not name names just to be fair. Then there's the anti democratic leader of a country near India who works of the irrational fears of many followers, though again I'll not name names. Or there's the ethical equivalence of a man who systematically abused test cricket before dying in a small aircraft incident along the Garden Route in SA. One could suggest he's a mishmash of these three mystery cricketers whoever they might be

Sad to say but he's WG Grace. Refuses to accept that he's out and just plays on regardless

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:04 am**

Saint wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:01 am
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:53 am
Fat Old Git wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:12 am Problem is it's not really that enthralling. Dull is how I would mostly describe it. It's the test cricket of the election world.

Now hang on a minute, test cricket is enthralling. Although it does present the question which cricketer would Donald Trump be? The obvious answer would be a fat, blond moron with addiction problems who has dated some surprisingly attractive women, though I will not name names just to be fair. Then there's the anti democratic leader of a country near India who works of the irrational fears of many followers, though again I'll not name names. Or there's the ethical equivalence of a man who systematically abused test cricket before dying in a small aircraft incident along the Garden Route in SA. One could suggest he's a mishmash of these three mystery cricketers whoever they might be
Sad to say but he's WG Grace. Refuses to accept that he's out and just plays on regardless

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:13 am**

don't know who 3rd is but trump is definitely a WarneKharn

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:25 am**

stemoc wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:13 am don't know who 3rd is but trump is definitely a WarneKharn

The 3rd one is Hansie Cronje

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:30 am**

sturginho wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:25 am
stemoc wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:13 am don't know who 3rd is but trump is definitely a WarneKharn
The 3rd one is Hansie Cronje

ahh ah very Hansie Warnekharn

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:39 am**

Blake wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:03 pm Biden going to be a lame duck without a Democratic senate though.

GOP can block and delay confirmations for 2 years making his administration completely ineffective.

Doesn’t look like Dems are going to get the senate.

As I've said, Biden is a moderate Republican in Democratic clothes. He's anti-free healthcare, pro big business and takes plenty of favors from them and lobbies hard for their interests. He's voted for policies that specifically screw the poor to benefit big business and even lectures that the poor have to pay their way. He is hawkish on foreign wars.

I think Biden will be every happy to have an excuse and barrier to not enact policies from the left which he clearly doesn't believe in. This way he get's to be the president he wants to be.

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:39 am**

Lemoentjie wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:15 am Everything is setting up nicely for Kanye 2024

It's going to be very funny no matter who wins in 2020. If Trump wins, we can watch obese blue-haired women screaming to the heavens, and if Biden wins we can watch rednecks and Trump himself have very many meltdowns

Agreed

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:50 am**

Fat Old Git wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:12 am Problem is it's not really that enthralling. Dull is how I would mostly describe it. It's the test cricket of the election world.

Ja I guess for neutrals with no skin in the game it can be very boring but for those in the thick of it it might just be a bit more exciting than a porn film.

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:01 am**

well, that took longer than I thought.

even the shaky removing of him glasses reminds us of Trump trying to take a sip of water

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:24 am**

eldanielfire wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:39 am
Blake wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:03 pm Biden going to be a lame duck without a Democratic senate though.

GOP can block and delay confirmations for 2 years making his administration completely ineffective.

Doesn’t look like Dems are going to get the senate.
As I've said, Biden is a moderate Republican in Democratic clothes. He's anti-free healthcare, pro big business and takes plenty of favors from them and lobbies hard for their interests. He's voted for policies that specifically screw the poor to benefit big business and even lectures that the poor have to pay their way. He is hawkish on foreign wars.

I think Biden will be every happy to have an excuse and barrier to not enact policies from the left which he clearly doesn't believe in. This way he get's to be the president he wants to be.

Joe Biden is not against free at the point of use health care. It's more he doesn't think you can flip from where they are now to such a system in on fell swoop, thus he wants to expand on the ACA and fix some holes as he sees it in the ACA. If after that people can push things further and it looks electorally sensible he's not going to object

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:02 am**

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:24 am
eldanielfire wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:39 am
Blake wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:03 pm Biden going to be a lame duck without a Democratic senate though.

GOP can block and delay confirmations for 2 years making his administration completely ineffective.

Doesn’t look like Dems are going to get the senate.
As I've said, Biden is a moderate Republican in Democratic clothes. He's anti-free healthcare, pro big business and takes plenty of favors from them and lobbies hard for their interests. He's voted for policies that specifically screw the poor to benefit big business and even lectures that the poor have to pay their way. He is hawkish on foreign wars.

I think Biden will be every happy to have an excuse and barrier to not enact policies from the left which he clearly doesn't believe in. This way he get's to be the president he wants to be.
Joe Biden is not against free at the point of use health care. It's more he doesn't think you can flip from where they are now to such a system in on fell swoop, thus he wants to expand on the ACA and fix some holes as he sees it in the ACA. If after that people can push things further and it looks electorally sensible he's not going to object

Biden spent much of his career being against free healthcare and has specifically opposed to Bernie Sanders phased system. It's highly likely he has seen how popular universal healthcare in the debates is and claimed his step needs to come first so he can keep knocking it back. You know those debates where he claimed he didn't vote for Iraq when he did knowing how unpopular that position is as well. He even said eh would veto "Medicare for All” when in office, citing some BS:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/10/biden-s ... ealth.html

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:36 am**

eldanielfire wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:02 am
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:24 am
eldanielfire wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:39 am

As I've said, Biden is a moderate Republican in Democratic clothes. He's anti-free healthcare, pro big business and takes plenty of favors from them and lobbies hard for their interests. He's voted for policies that specifically screw the poor to benefit big business and even lectures that the poor have to pay their way. He is hawkish on foreign wars.

I think Biden will be every happy to have an excuse and barrier to not enact policies from the left which he clearly doesn't believe in. This way he get's to be the president he wants to be.
Joe Biden is not against free at the point of use health care. It's more he doesn't think you can flip from where they are now to such a system in on fell swoop, thus he wants to expand on the ACA and fix some holes as he sees it in the ACA. If after that people can push things further and it looks electorally sensible he's not going to object
Biden spent much of his career being against free healthcare and has specifically opposed to Bernie Sanders phased system. It's highly likely he has seen how popular universal healthcare in the debates is and claimed his step needs to come first so he can keep knocking it back. You know those debates where he claimed he didn't vote for Iraq when he did knowing how unpopular that position is as well. He even said eh would veto "Medicare for All” when in office, citing some BS:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/10/biden-s ... ealth.html

Again he's not against free at the point of use healthcare. He's against trying to take their present system much beyond its present situation, which is why many see him as not progressive enough. As Biden sees it he's dealing in the reality of what there is, not designing his perfect system from scratch, and not wanting to allow what he sees as achievable aims to be distracted by engaging in pie in the sky thinking. He might be right or wrong in various aspects of that, but he's not against a free (at the point is use) system, he just doesn't think he can politically get that done so doesn't engage in it.

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:00 pm**

Is this not another of those "Trump is bad, but Biden is just as bad or worse" conversations?

The amount of people that claim not to be Trump supporters, yet carry the fight for him is amazing.

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:52 pm**

Has the idiot been told to keep away from Twitter today? Very quiet.

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:30 pm**

The gap in PA continues top close - 20,000 votes reported from Philadelphia broke 92% for Biden, and a further 9,000 from Montgomery County that broke 72% for Biden. The gap is now approx 140,000, and a LOT still to count/report

As an indicator - Biden now leads Michigan by over 100K votes, so that's very much a closable gap and I think I'd be very surprised now if Biden doesn't ultimately take the state.

50,000 votes left to report in Georgia with Biden trailing by 18K. That looks like it's going to be REALLY close and probably an automatic recount

Arizona is tightening and it's unclear if Trump is closing the gap fast enough here

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:35 pm**

Slick wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:52 pm Has the idiot been told to keep away from Twitter today? Very quiet.

He’s just tweeted again to demand STOP THE COUNT. He obviously doesn’t realise that stopping the count now would give Biden Nevada, which would be enough to give him 270 electoral college votes.

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:36 pm**

Naturally, the Count from Sesame Street features heavily in the responses.

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:41 pm**

To be honest, he's just giving a shout out to the fuckwits looking to surround polling stations and force a close down, 2000 Florida style.

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:44 pm**

So let's visit that for a minute, Those that voted for & support Trump...

Were OK with the... (not a full and exhaustive list, just some highlights)

Spoiler

Show

Lying, Lying, Lying and Lying - In 1,316 days, President Trump has made 22,247 false or misleading claims
Misogyny
The rapes
Sleeping with and paying off hookers
Playing golf all the time
ALL CAPS tweets
His spelling
Charlottesville 'Good people'
Calling his wife Melanie
Climate change denial
Wanting to bone his daughter
The fraud
Putin and secret Russian meetings
The Dance
Killing 230,000 Americans with Covid inaction

"The virus concern is a hoax."
"It is like the flu."
"It will disappear in April."
"We are doing a great job."

Blames Others

- The State Governors
- The WHO, the CDC
- Medical workers
- The Democrats
- The Media
- Hospitals
- Obama
- China

Puerto Pico response
The Wall
Separating kids from the parents
Paying for the Wall
Injecting bleach
Creepy daughter comments
Trump University
"Beautiful, clean coal. They're taking out coal, they're going to clean it."
Stealing from Charities
Calling Mexicans rapists
Didn't drain the swamp
Didn't reduce middle class taxes
Didn't reduce the deficit
Failed to eliminate the federal debt
Didn't release his tax returns and fought like a badger to stop them getting out
Paid close to fuck all in taxes
Turned Iran back into a hostile state
Withdrew from the Paris climate accord
Failed tariff wars
Difficulty drinking from a cup
Difficulty walking on a ramp
Can't attend remembrance day because light rain
Veterans
POWs
McCain
Bonespures
Obamacare Repeal Failure
Trumpcare Failure
Tax Cut Failure
Travel Ban Failure
FBI Director Fired
Infrastructure Failure
Ethics Chief Resignation
EPA Trashing Regulations
US Election Meddling Failure
Scaramucci
Sebastian Gorka
Banon
Farage
Sheriff Joe Arpaio pardoned
Pocahontas Warren jibes
black athletes who protest are "Sons-Of-Bitches"
use of private emails by... almost everyone
wall around the white house
pretend bible thumper
space farce
"NBC should have their license revoked."
"Freedom of the press is disgusting."
Sgt. Johnson - "He knew what he signed up for."
'Person, woman, man, camera, TV'
Foreign policy gems like "China is raping us."
Dismantled the U.S. pandemic response team

Guilty please from...(and hires the "best people")

George Papadopoulos
Michael Flynn
Paul Manafort
Rick Gates
Richard Pinedo
Alex van der Zwaan
and a bunch of russians

Threatens WAR with...
Venezuela
North Korea

Under Investigation for -

Aiding An Enemy
Rampant Nepotism
Rampant Hypocrisy
Personal Profiteering
Obstruction of Justice
Rampant Conflicts of Interest

and then 68.6 million people still voted for him, because racists.

Obama by comparison... wore a tan suit once and people lost their fucking minds!

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:04 pm**

People don't view this stuff in isolation. Many millions of people are practically force-fed a constant stream of bullshit by Murdoch/Sinclair/OANN, and by their local religious extremists, and by their own GOP types, and by Facebook, and by Twitter. Your list just looks like something a crazy person would say to them.

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:06 pm**

JM2K6 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:04 pm People don't view this stuff in isolation. Many millions of people are practically force-fed a constant stream of bullshit by Murdoch/Sinclair/OANN, and by their local religious extremists, and by their own GOP types, and by Facebook, and by Twitter. Your list just looks like something a crazy person would say to them.

That's part of the tactic, controversy all the time, there's never enough time for one to take hold before the next one grabs some attention and a day or 2 later it's the next one. Eventually it's just a shrug at the constant blur. (Boris has been employing much the same tactic here)

and yup on the media influence...

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:49 pm**

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:50 pm**

the electoral official at Atlanta is handling this very well
http://rwc19.rf.gd/fox5.html

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:54 pm**

If Trump has mobilised his army of winged lawyers, I’m guessing that someone has said to him that it would really help his cause if he kept the rantings on Twitter down to one, mono-syllabic, legally ambiguous, outburst.

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:56 pm**

Ali Cadoo wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:54 pm If Trump has mobilised his army of winged lawyers, I’m guessing that someone has said to him that it would really help his cause if he kept the rantings on Twitter down to one, mono-syllabic, legally ambiguous, outburst.

Yeah, unfortunately "STOP THE VOTE" was ambiguous enough for his followers to squirm around, "STOP THE COUNT", less so.

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:19 pm**

Ali Cadoo wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:54 pm If Trump has mobilised his army of winged lawyers, I’m guessing that someone has said to him that it would really help his cause if he kept the rantings on Twitter down to one, mono-syllabic, legally ambiguous, outburst.

a bit late in the day.

his previous twitter rants have already telegraphed his intentions to suppress the vote, to fuck up & attempt to delegitimatize postal ballots.

I saw a youtube video by an Ex-DA explaining how these rants would all count against his campaign when they tried to go to court to challenge the result

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:21 pm**

It's all fun and games until they inform him he'll have to pay for those lawyers himself... and they also then realise that they won't get paid either.

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:26 pm**

Wtf is Biden though, honestly?
Would rather we had another four years of trump hammering it home, how much the wealthy fuckers despise and hate us.

Biden will just make the poor suck cock for the rich.
Biden idolises the wealthy more than trump.

At least trump knows he is a cunt.

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:30 pm**

Insane_Homer wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:21 pm It's all fun and games until they inform him he'll have to pay for those lawyers himself... and they also then realise that they won't get paid either.

Not exactly; it's the campaigns that pay for the lawyers; so he'll beggar the GOP fighting an unwinnable fight

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:54 pm**

Bat shit

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:56 pm**

You beat me to it

This Woman is a "spiritual advisor"

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:06 pm**

fishfoodie wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:30 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:21 pm It's all fun and games until they inform him he'll have to pay for those lawyers himself... and they also then realise that they won't get paid either.
Not exactly; it's the campaigns that pay for the lawyers; so he'll beggar the GOP fighting an unwinnable fight

Indeed:

“ A Georgia judge has dismissed the Trump campaign’s lawsuit over absentee ballots in the state.

The president’s reelection campaign tried to argue election officials were attempting to count invalid ballots in Georgia.

When pressed for evidence of that claim, the Trump campaign could not produce any.”

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:08 pm**

Jock42 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:54 pm Bat shit

Bit harsh on bat shit to be fair...............she's way beyond that!!!

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:10 pm**

As well as the Presidential race tightening in Georgia, it seems likely that both Republican Senators in Georgia will fail to get the 50% of the vote required, and there will be run-offs for both positions. If the Democrats win the run-offs, they will gain control of the Senate.

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:21 pm**

Biden stretches his lead in Nevada, but still an estimated 200k votes to go. Votes arriving up till the 10th will be counted

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:41 pm**

I want Joe to win if only to hear Trump's "I concede" speech. I wonder if he can get the words out... or if there'll ever be one.

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:57 pm**

Line6 HXFX wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:26 pm

At least trump knows he is a cunt.

Do you?

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:00 pm**

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:01 pm**

Interesting watch, and comparison (to how Hilary acted in 2016, and Trump (so far) in 2020). McCain's concession speech in 2008:

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:13 pm**

So Trump tweets: All of the recent Biden claimed States will be legally challenged by us for Voter Fraud and State Election Fraud. Plenty of proof - just check out the Media. WE WILL WIN! America First!

Surely the Media is all fake news?

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