0Bar probablyBlake wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:54 pmAnd who will play wing in Fassi's place? Or 12 in Frans' spot?sorCrer wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:50 pmBoth Fassi and Fatty Steyn can play at 15.Blake wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:43 pm Bok second stringers just not as clinical on defense. Linespeed slower, hits not as disruptive. Argies finding some momentum through little pre-contact shirt passing.
Bummed out that Dweba is making silly mistakes. Annoyed with Willemse. Unfortunatly we don't have a sub for him, unless Morne plays 15.
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Yup. What the second stingers do show us, is the gulf between:Sandstorm wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:56 pm Amazing the gulf in talent and usefulness between Am and Jessie Kriel.
Vermeulen > Wiese
Pollard > Jantjies
Am > Kriel
Le Roux > Willemse
We need to build some depth in those positions specifically.
So weird listening to the Supersport halftime pundits. It's like we are watching a completely different match.
Butch James going on about Dweba's great debut.
I'm a HUGE Dweba fan, but he has not had a great showing...especially by his own standards. Scrums have been very good, but he's lost a lineout with an overthrow, and also lost the ball in contact when we had a decent attacking opportunity. They were also raving about Nkosi, who has been...okay. No massive mistakes, but hardly a great half by him either. Just weird man. Maybe I'm too critical...or they are under instructions not to say anything negative?
Butch James going on about Dweba's great debut.

I'm a HUGE Dweba fan, but he has not had a great showing...especially by his own standards. Scrums have been very good, but he's lost a lineout with an overthrow, and also lost the ball in contact when we had a decent attacking opportunity. They were also raving about Nkosi, who has been...okay. No massive mistakes, but hardly a great half by him either. Just weird man. Maybe I'm too critical...or they are under instructions not to say anything negative?
I haven’t heard a studio pundit talk sense in years.Blake wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:04 pm So weird listening to the Supersport halftime pundits. It's like we are watching a completely different match.
Butch James going on about Dweba's great debut.![]()
I'm a HUGE Dweba fan, but he has not had a great showing...especially by his own standards. Scrums have been very good, but he's lost a lineout with an overthrow, and also lost the ball in contact when we had a decent attacking opportunity. They were also raving about Nkosi, who has been...okay. No massive mistakes, but hardly a great half by him either. Just weird man. Maybe I'm too critical...or they are under instructions not to say anything negative?
Edit: ROG was brilliant in the Lions series. The rest are clowns.
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I like Nick Mallet. Doesn't mince words or wax lyrical about mediocrity. Just calls it straight and it correct more often than not.Sandstorm wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:08 pmI haven’t heard a studio pundit talk sense in years.Blake wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:04 pm So weird listening to the Supersport halftime pundits. It's like we are watching a completely different match.
Butch James going on about Dweba's great debut.![]()
I'm a HUGE Dweba fan, but he has not had a great showing...especially by his own standards. Scrums have been very good, but he's lost a lineout with an overthrow, and also lost the ball in contact when we had a decent attacking opportunity. They were also raving about Nkosi, who has been...okay. No massive mistakes, but hardly a great half by him either. Just weird man. Maybe I'm too critical...or they are under instructions not to say anything negative?
Edit: ROG was brilliant in the Luins series. The rat are clowns.
Massive scrum by the Boks.
Such a weapon if you can get it right. Not only does it take the wind out of the opposition pack to be bossed like that, but it also is a point generator as long as penalties are going to be farmed there and is also so disruptive for future opponents to plan a counter. They need to sacrifice potentially more mobile props with handling skills or speed, and it's also something that you can't just fix in a week if it is a weakness in your game. There is a real intimidation factor there.
Such a weapon if you can get it right. Not only does it take the wind out of the opposition pack to be bossed like that, but it also is a point generator as long as penalties are going to be farmed there and is also so disruptive for future opponents to plan a counter. They need to sacrifice potentially more mobile props with handling skills or speed, and it's also something that you can't just fix in a week if it is a weakness in your game. There is a real intimidation factor there.
I can't imagine how difficult it is to be a commentator, but they really can talk a bunch of shit sometimes just to fill the silence.Sandstorm wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:20 pm Stransky: “Wiese is an intelligent player who makes the right decisions “
Everyone else: “What? He gave away about 8 stupid pens against the Lions!”
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Sanchez revolving door in defence.
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Mother of god. Free kick to Arg they punt somewhere they won't contest only for it to come back to be contested just where they kicked from.... and lose it. Just friggin' thick.
Pumas being their own worst enemies today.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:24 pm Mother of god. Free kick to Arg they punt somewhere they won't contest only for it to come back to be contested just where they kicked from.... and lose it. Just friggin' thick.
15 phases and the Boks go for posts. Not sure that was the right call.
Yes, scoreboard pressure is a thing, but we are heading into the final quarter. Boks need to up the tempo now and score 2 tries.
Wiese's first mistake of the match.
Yes, scoreboard pressure is a thing, but we are heading into the final quarter. Boks need to up the tempo now and score 2 tries.
Wiese's first mistake of the match.
Agreed. Might be worth it bringing Hendrikse on. I don't like him much, but he can play at tempo; and that's what we need.Sandstorm wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:28 pm Reinach doesn’t know how to build tempo and speed at the ruck. Pauses at every 3rd ruck and we lose momentum. Smith and McDermott so much better this morning.
I’m a convert. Fassi is great. *hack spit*Blake wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:25 pm Fassi's height really coming into play in those kick-chases. I'm sure Rassie and Nienaber have noticed.
I think he might have leapfrogged Nkosi into the 3rd spot.
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Same old for them.Blake wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:26 pmPumas being their own worst enemies today.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:24 pm Mother of god. Free kick to Arg they punt somewhere they won't contest only for it to come back to be contested just where they kicked from.... and lose it. Just friggin' thick.
3rd mistake.Blake wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:28 pm 15 phases and the Boks go for posts. Not sure that was the right call.
Yes, scoreboard pressure is a thing, but we are heading into the final quarter. Boks need to up the tempo now and score 2 tries.
Wiese's first mistake of the match.
There was a knock-on, when the ref was playing knock-on advantage, but that's the only other one I can recall. Must have missed one.sorCrer wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:31 pm3rd mistake.Blake wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:28 pm 15 phases and the Boks go for posts. Not sure that was the right call.
Yes, scoreboard pressure is a thing, but we are heading into the final quarter. Boks need to up the tempo now and score 2 tries.
Wiese's first mistake of the match.
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Puts in some serious shifts for a big lump.
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Boks not needing to get out of second gear here. [*]
He and Etzebeth have both been solid yes. Glad Lood is clocking up some playing minutes. Don't think he's gone 60+ minutes in ages for the Boks.
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SA so far offside at every ruck that Arg can only go backwards.
Sanchez f**ks up as he throws the ball in panic before he gets tackled.
Sanchez f**ks up as he throws the ball in panic before he gets tackled.