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Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:17 pm
by Raggs
Margin__Walker wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:16 pm
Raggs wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:14 pm
Margin__Walker wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:13 pm
Lovely try from Sam Simmonds for Ex off 1st phase.
Danny Care bottled that so badly
Ha. TBF, I don't think he was making it and was worried about taking out Earle who was still in with a sniff of catching him
He was covering that space far faster than Earle was, that was his man every time :D.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:22 pm
by Saint
Try 2. At least it wasn;t first phase this time
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:24 pm
by Oxbow
It's going to be a long season.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:25 pm
by Saint
Mallinder's going to have a lot of minutes in his legs for his first match back
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:29 pm
by Oxbow
Tom Collins scoring from a maul amused me.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:31 pm
by Saint
Oxbow wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:29 pm
Tom Collins scoring from a maul amused me.
Yeah. When they look at the record books for this match, no-one will imagine that;s how he scored
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:51 pm
by ASMO
Dear RFU, please get rid of the abomination that is the caterpilar ruck, yous sincerely, every rugby fan ever.
It is a fucking joke, and Exeter more than any team take the piss using it
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:53 pm
by Saint
ASMO wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:51 pm
Dear RFU, please get rid of the abomination that is the caterpilar ruck, yous sincerely, every rugby fan ever.
It is a fucking joke, and Exeter more than any team take the piss using it
I think this is more a comment for the IRB? (of course they;re monitoring this and will respond)
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:54 pm
by Kawazaki
8 Saffas in the Sale starting XV plus another on the bench.
And none of them will ever be eligible to play for England.
It's a disgrace.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:03 pm
by Tichtheid
Saint wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:53 pm
ASMO wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:51 pm
Dear RFU, please get rid of the abomination that is the caterpilar ruck, yous sincerely, every rugby fan ever.
It is a fucking joke, and Exeter more than any team take the piss using it
I think this is more a comment for the IRB? (of course they;re monitoring this and will respond)
If you do away with the caterpillar you increase the risk of a charge down, the result will be a fly half kicking from deeper after more pointless one out drives, ie a win for a rush defence.
Enforce the five second rule after “use it” is a better solution
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:09 pm
by Saint
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:03 pm
Saint wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:53 pm
ASMO wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:51 pm
Dear RFU, please get rid of the abomination that is the caterpilar ruck, yous sincerely, every rugby fan ever.
It is a fucking joke, and Exeter more than any team take the piss using it
I think this is more a comment for the IRB? (of course they;re monitoring this and will respond)
If you do away with the caterpillar you increase the risk of a charge down, the result will be a fly half kicking from deeper after more pointless one out drives, ie a win for a rush defence.
Enforce the five second rule after “use it” is a better solution
Not disagreeing at all, just not sure what anyoen thinks the RFU can do about it
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:22 pm
by ASMO
RFU, IRB, who fucking cares, get rid of it. Quins, Exeter showcasing everything that is wrong with English rugby.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:23 pm
by Hal Jordan
Looks like I missed 70 minutes of corking rugby, and here is an exciting driving maul try.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:28 pm
by Tichtheid
That is far too easy, Simmonds should never have been able to do that, again
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:30 pm
by Hal Jordan
Can't see us getting a garbage time try, even.
Looooooong season ahead.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:36 pm
by ASMO
Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:30 pm
Can't see us getting a garbage time try, even.
Looooooong season ahead.
Have to agree, Quins didnt fire a single shot, all they had were blanks. Earle was an empty shirt, Murley has potential though.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:38 pm
by Double
Was that Dimes we could hear screaming at the referee from the stands?
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:45 pm
by Saint
Easy for Sale to put in a huge defensive effort when offside is ignored, There's a lot of problems with refereeing that need to be sorted
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:47 pm
by Saint
And Dimes started from paying lip service to social distancing to just plain ignoring it. Completely different issue, but if rugby wants government support then it needs to show it's trying to do something
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:50 pm
by JM2K6
That went well.
I was basically happy before the disallowed try - one brilliant score by Simmonds (and a bad misread by the tyro 13), and one predictably poor maul defence aside, we were holding our own. Then it all fell apart. I'll get the ref whinge out of the way: he's garbage, has no idea what's going on at the breakdown, doesn't know what a forward pass looks like (thankfully, as we threw most of them), and did not give a single shit about offsides. We had to virtually carry players for metres before he'd give a holding on penalty for the first hour. Baffling stuff.
Sadly, Marcus Smith had a really poor game; Danny Care's kicking was largely excellent, but whenever Smith looked to kick he either belted it straight to a player or just shanked it. Really poor. The complete drop off in intensity wasn't entirely unexpected given how shit our bench was compared to theirs, but it's still really disappointing. Earle as ASMO said was an empty shirt, Brown was middling, losing Symons was a big blow... back row went well and will play a lot worse than that for a lot more reward.
Exeter though, Christ. Simmonds is just too good. And despite our defensive excellence for long periods they never looked like they were panicking and never looked worried. Eventually it told and then they just turned Quins into a multicoloured smear on the windscreen. Ominous stuff.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:04 pm
by Tichtheid
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:50 pm
Exeter though, Christ. Simmonds is just too good. And despite our defensive excellence for long periods they never looked like they were panicking and never looked worried. Eventually it told and then they just turned Quins into a multicoloured smear on the windscreen. Ominous stuff.
Exeter are becoming Leinster-like, it doesn't really matter who is wearing the shirt, they will do a very similar job.
As a huge Marcus Smith fan, he didn't have his best game tonight, but the result was down to more than him. The gap between teams usually really shows in the last quarter or third of a game, and tonight it showed.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:41 pm
by ASMO
First game of the season i know but both Quins and Tampon looking bottom 4 material
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:53 pm
by JM2K6
With 18 players missing and a 19th injured early on I'm not hugely surprised our bench sucked and we fell away. Chances are we'll be mid table again.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:43 pm
by sockwithaticket
Cam Redpathlooking very bright against Newcastle atm. Early signs not good for them, carved open very easily on a couple of occasions.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:49 pm
by Paddington Bear
Watching Spencer play on BT Sport Extra 2 before settling in to watch Ben Youngs at 3 is an emotional experience
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:58 pm
by sockwithaticket
Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:49 pm
Watching Spencer play on BT Sport Extra 2 before settling in to watch Ben Youngs at 3 is an emotional experience
Very much a game show "...and this is what you could have won" experience.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:30 pm
by Paddington Bear
Fair play Newcastle, huge win and good value for it.
Increasingly have a sinking feeling for England
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:49 pm
by sockwithaticket
They turned it around big time, the opening quarter didn't look all that promising.
Also not feeing great about England. Hoping that Ford's introduction to the backline will be enough to save us.
Gibson-Park added a lot of zip to Ireland's game last week and an Ireland team looking to attack rather than box kick the shit out of everything is an unknown quantitity.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:07 pm
by ASMO
England borefest already
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:09 pm
by Hal Jordan
And shitty spidercam for the scrums again. "I'm looking at Earls right over on the touchline" Well can we fucking see him, then?
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:12 pm
by sockwithaticket
May needed to start running left as soon as he picked up that ball, would've been a good chance to score.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:12 pm
by fishfoodie
Farrell being dirty cnt already
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:12 pm
by Hal Jordan
We went three phases without a kick! But Farrell put a stop to that nonsense with an aimless grubber.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:14 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Farrell with no arms "tackle". Quelle surprise. And in the air too just to add the icing.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:15 pm
by Hal Jordan
Youngs throws a pass from the base of a scrum under zero pressure that causes the recipient to nearly stop dead to catch it behind him.
Edit:At shoulder height
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:16 pm
by ASMO
Youngs passing is a disgrace for a so called international scrum half
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:17 pm
by Tichtheid
England won’t get anything out of kicking towards Keith Earles,
unless they get a penalty at a resulting scrum right enough
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:18 pm
by sockwithaticket
Of course, with a free play, Farrell's immediate thought is to hoist it...
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:19 pm
by ASMO
The creative vaccuum shows no signs of dissapating
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:20 pm
by sockwithaticket
That's actually well executed, but jesus fuck Youngs completely sapped the momentum out of that attack making it necessary.