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Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:24 am
by Margin__Walker
Biden up in GA


Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:26 am
by Sandstorm
They’ll be re-counting in Georgia on Xmas eve.

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:27 am
by Ted.
Rinkals wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:22 am
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:07 am Georgia gap now less than 3.5k, with ~19k votes to count, (excluding over seas, & military ballots); so expect a Biden to get ahead, & a recount.
Wouldn't one expect the Military vote to favour Trump, though?
Trump's lead in Georgia is now just 463 votes. Scratch that. See above.

You would think the military would lean heavily toward Trump, but hasn't he queered his pitch with them of late?

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:36 am
by Chilli
Ted. wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:27 am
Rinkals wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:22 am
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:07 am Georgia gap now less than 3.5k, with ~19k votes to count, (excluding over seas, & military ballots); so expect a Biden to get ahead, & a recount.
Wouldn't one expect the Military vote to favour Trump, though?
Trump's lead in Georgia is now just 463 votes. Scratch that. See above.

You would think the military would lean heavily toward Trump, but hasn't he queered his pitch with them of late?
Would those losers support him?

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:36 am
by sturginho


edit : doh! wrong tweet!

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:37 am
by Lobby
Rinkals wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:22 am
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:07 am Georgia gap now less than 3.5k, with ~19k votes to count, (excluding over seas, & military ballots); so expect a Biden to get ahead, & a recount.
Wouldn't one expect the Military vote to favour Trump, though?
Biden now leading in Georgia by about 900.

I've seen some suggestions that there are about 5000 outstanding military votes still to be counted, so still going to be very tight.

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:37 am
by sturginho
Margin Walker, you beat me to it :D

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:55 am
by Saint
GA looks like it;s a statistical dead heat. Recounts and lawsuits for years to come

PA looks like Biden will win by 100K+

NV looks safe for Biden as it's basically just Clark county to count. In any other year this would have been called by now

I still think Trump's going to win AZ, but the analysts reckon it's on a knife edge and might just favour Biden

NC is sticking with Trump.

Weirdly, although Alaska looks like it ought to be safe for Donald, the Dem Senate candidate reckons that it's going to flip blue. I just can't see that happening myself.

Thje final margins are of interest, as will be the final popular vote count (once California finishes running up the number). Ultimately Biden's probably won the vote count by around 10 million

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:57 am
by Hal Jordan
Bannon banned from YouTube, Twitter and Facebook for calling for Fauci and FBI Director Wray to be beheaded "as a warning to federal bureaucrats". Just a reminder of the best people.

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:58 am
by tc27
So after all this Biden is on course to win comfortably in EC terms and massively in popular vote terms. :eh:

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:59 am
by Woddy
Trump sounded beaten in that speech and more preparing excuses to allow a graceful exit (in his own head at least, which is ultimately all he cares about) than to mount a serious challenge.

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:07 am
by tc27
Fox News has called the election for Biden.

Edit - not yet.

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:09 am
by fishfoodie
Nevada is getting a lot of stick



Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:13 am
by fishfoodie
Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:57 am Bannon banned from YouTube, Twitter and Facebook for calling for Fauci and FBI Director Wray to be beheaded "as a warning to federal bureaucrats". Just a reminder of the best people.

Fishing for a pardon, is he ?

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:14 am
by stemoc
I still think Florida and Texas should have turned blue too, something odd happened within the last hour of counting, if Trump asks/sues for a recount, the democrats should ask for a recount in Florida and Texas as well..

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:25 am
by Rhubarb & Custard
Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:57 am Bannon banned from YouTube, Twitter and Facebook for calling for Fauci and FBI Director Wray to be beheaded "as a warning to federal bureaucrats". Just a reminder of the best people.

As a warning and because that's how you deal with traitors. One assumes Bannon said it merely to get the attention because he's not actually that stupid, and indeed he'd happily sit down for a chat with both Fauci and Wray. Further proof Bannon is a git, though why further proof might be needed is a mystery

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:04 am
by assfly
Trump must be cooked by now.

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:05 am
by Biffer
Interestingly enough, it seems there's no automatic recount margin in Georgia (In Arizona if the winning margin is less than 0.1% there's an automatic recount, Wisconsin 0.25%). If there's no automatic recount, whoever wants it has to stump up about $3million to pay for it.

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:08 am
by JM2K6
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:25 am
Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:57 am Bannon banned from YouTube, Twitter and Facebook for calling for Fauci and FBI Director Wray to be beheaded "as a warning to federal bureaucrats". Just a reminder of the best people.

As a warning and because that's how you deal with traitors. One assumes Bannon said it merely to get the attention because he's not actually that stupid, and indeed he'd happily sit down for a chat with both Fauci and Wray. Further proof Bannon is a git, though why further proof might be needed is a mystery
No he really is that stupid - this is the guy who's on bail for a huge fraud case. Absolute scumbag, Seneca's idol, Farage's mate, and occasional guru to Boris Johnson. Woo.

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:14 am
by Guy Smiley
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:08 am Seneca's idol
I wonder how Seneca’s going with all of this. I hope he’s ok.

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:18 am
by JM2K6
Shanky’s mate wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:14 am
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:08 am Seneca's idol
I wonder how Seneca’s going with all of this. I hope he’s ok.
He's been gagging for a race war for a while now, I'm sure he's enjoying the work of the orange chaos monkey in sowing division and strife.

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:22 am
by Saint
stemoc wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:14 am I still think Florida and Texas should have turned blue too, something odd happened within the last hour of counting, if Trump asks/sues for a recount, the democrats should ask for a recount in Florida and Texas as well..
Texas was ALWAYS going to be a stretch this time out. Although the demographic is changing there, it was only the odd poll that put Biden ahead, and I don't think he ever got outside the margin of error. Georgia had a lot of polls making Biden marginal favourite (but even then mainly inside the MoE)

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:34 am
by Lobby
On the remaining military votes yet to be counted in Georgia, in August the Military Times conducted a poll which showed Biden winning serviceman by 41 % to 37%, so if Trump is relying on these to get him back in front in Georgia, he may well be disappointed.

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:44 am
by fishfoodie
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:18 am
Shanky’s mate wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:14 am
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:08 am Seneca's idol
I wonder how Seneca’s going with all of this. I hope he’s ok.
He's been gagging for a race war for a while now, I'm sure he's enjoying the work of the orange chaos monkey in sowing division and strife.
One of the CNN reporters said that the reporters were withdrawing from the Maricopa count center, because gun totting crazies were intimidating the media.

I'd ask what the fuck the Police were doing to let that happen; & then I remembered that that was Joe Arpio's old beat :mad:

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:02 pm
by Rhubarb & Custard
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:08 am
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:25 am
Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:57 am Bannon banned from YouTube, Twitter and Facebook for calling for Fauci and FBI Director Wray to be beheaded "as a warning to federal bureaucrats". Just a reminder of the best people.

As a warning and because that's how you deal with traitors. One assumes Bannon said it merely to get the attention because he's not actually that stupid, and indeed he'd happily sit down for a chat with both Fauci and Wray. Further proof Bannon is a git, though why further proof might be needed is a mystery
No he really is that stupid - this is the guy who's on bail for a huge fraud case. Absolute scumbag, Seneca's idol, Farage's mate, and occasional guru to Boris Johnson. Woo.
Plenty of otherwise intelligent people get caught out on fraud, that's more about rationalising your sense of entitlement or being a greedy bastard if you prefer. Bannon is plenty bright enough to know better, he's actively choosing to act in such despicable fashion because that advances his career and his stated cause, but probably mostly his career.

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:16 pm
by Saint
Got to say I'm impressed with the ability of the CNN team to keep on breathlessly repeat exactly the same set of numbers as if it's breaking news

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:43 pm
by Ali Cadoo
In a masterful, exquisite piece of political and personal trolling, Putin has released this little snippet as a fuck you to Trump:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/06/europe/r ... index.html
Russian lawmakers consider bill that would give Putin lifelong immunity from prosecution

Moscow (CNN)Russian lawmakers submitted a draft bill that could grant former presidents lifelong immunity from criminal prosecution beyond their terms of office, state-run news agency TASS reported Thursday.

Such a bill would give current President Vladimir Putin protection from prosecution if and when he decides to leave office.
Under current Russian law, presidents cannot be prosecuted for crimes committed while in office. The proposed change seeks to extend the immunity beyond their terms of office so it would apply to offenses committed in the president's lifetime.

The President was seen to wave two fingers up at a picture of Trump as the announcement was made.

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:51 pm
by fishfoodie
Biden ahead in PA

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:55 pm
by Slick
All getting a bit dull now. The only thin keeping me going is the thought of Trump tying himself in knots somewhere.

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:55 pm
by Margin__Walker
Image

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:57 pm
by Margin__Walker
That's going to be the ball game.

Plenty of messing about to go no doubt, but it's done.

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:58 pm
by Sandstorm
Saint wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:16 pm Got to say I'm impressed with the ability of the CNN team to keep on breathlessly repeat exactly the same set of numbers as if it's breaking news
Waiting for the Champagne to get really chilled first.

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:59 pm
by Saint
Margin__Walker wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:57 pm That's going to be the ball game.

Plenty of messing about to go no doubt, but it's done.
Biggest calculation the Biden campaign has to make now is when to get up on stage and declare victory. There will be a lot of pressure to do it in Primetime tonight

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:03 pm
by Margin__Walker
Saint wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:59 pm
Margin__Walker wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:57 pm That's going to be the ball game.

Plenty of messing about to go no doubt, but it's done.
Biggest calculation the Biden campaign has to make now is when to get up on stage and declare victory. There will be a lot of pressure to do it in Primetime tonight
Yep, will be interesting to see when the networks start calling it. I see that Decision Desk HQ have now.

Perhaps they'll wait for another tranche of PA ballots showing a bit more of a buffer

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:08 pm
by Saint
Margin__Walker wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:03 pm
Saint wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:59 pm
Margin__Walker wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:57 pm That's going to be the ball game.

Plenty of messing about to go no doubt, but it's done.
Biggest calculation the Biden campaign has to make now is when to get up on stage and declare victory. There will be a lot of pressure to do it in Primetime tonight
Yep, will be interesting to see when the networks start calling it. I see that Decision Desk HQ have now.

Perhaps they'll wait for another tranche of PA ballots showing a bit more of a buffer
It's taken the pressure off of Fox wrt Nevada

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:10 pm
by Margin__Walker
Saint wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:08 pm
Margin__Walker wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:03 pm
Saint wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:59 pm

Biggest calculation the Biden campaign has to make now is when to get up on stage and declare victory. There will be a lot of pressure to do it in Primetime tonight
Yep, will be interesting to see when the networks start calling it. I see that Decision Desk HQ have now.

Perhaps they'll wait for another tranche of PA ballots showing a bit more of a buffer
It's taken the pressure off of Fox wrt Nevada
Yeah, that would have been quite a spot for them if Nevada started getting called.

Biden will still likely take AZ, but with the benefit of hindsight it wasn't a solid call at the time for AP and Fox

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:16 pm
by sturginho
Margin__Walker wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:10 pm
Saint wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:08 pm
Margin__Walker wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:03 pm

Yep, will be interesting to see when the networks start calling it. I see that Decision Desk HQ have now.

Perhaps they'll wait for another tranche of PA ballots showing a bit more of a buffer
It's taken the pressure off of Fox wrt Nevada
Yeah, that would have been quite a spot for them if Nevada started getting called.

Biden will still likely take AZ, but with the benefit of hindsight it wasn't a solid call at the time for AP and Fox
Fox apparently doubled down on their call when Jared called Rupert Murdoch to complain that the cry baby was upset with the call

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:25 pm
by fishfoodie
sturginho wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:16 pm
Margin__Walker wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:10 pm
Saint wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:08 pm

It's taken the pressure off of Fox wrt Nevada
Yeah, that would have been quite a spot for them if Nevada started getting called.

Biden will still likely take AZ, but with the benefit of hindsight it wasn't a solid call at the time for AP and Fox
Fox apparently doubled down on their call when Jared called Rupert Murdoch to complain that the cry baby was upset with the call
Its odd that someone as transactional as the shitgibbon, doesn't realize that now he's lost the Presidency; he has nothing these guys want anymore !

he's got a mountain of debt; & mountain of incoming criminal cases, & no more immunity, & no more leverage, & no more favors

Re: TRE45ON Trump and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:34 pm
by Lobby
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:25 pm
sturginho wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:16 pm
Margin__Walker wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:10 pm

Yeah, that would have been quite a spot for them if Nevada started getting called.

Biden will still likely take AZ, but with the benefit of hindsight it wasn't a solid call at the time for AP and Fox
Fox apparently doubled down on their call when Jared called Rupert Murdoch to complain that the cry baby was upset with the call
Its odd that someone as transactional as the shitgibbon, doesn't realize that now he's lost the Presidency; he has nothing these guys want anymore !

he's got a mountain of debt; & mountain of incoming criminal cases, & no more immunity, & no more leverage, & no more favors
They’ve been talking up him standing again in 2024, but hopefully he’ll be languishing in jail by then. Twitter have also reminded him that once he is no longer President, he won’t benefit from special treatment as a “newsworthy individual”. In other words, if he starts spouting shit on Twitter, they’ll ban him.

Re: President Biden and US politics catchall

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:37 pm
by stemoc
BIDEN WINS PA, WINS THE ELECTION!