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Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:01 pm
by Plato’sCave
Well done France
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:01 pm
by Lemoentjie
Wow!!!!
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:01 pm
by Plato’sCave
That was tense
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:01 pm
by sockwithaticket
Fair fucks France, some mettle to come through that. Thought those scrums had done them out of having enough time to win the game.
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:00 pm
Well done France. Wales had a disciplinary meltdown just as jiffy was bragging about Wales' discipline making them the best side in the tournament.
Yeah, that is particularly sweet.
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:01 pm
by Torquemada 1420
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:00 pm
Well done France. Wales had a disciplinary meltdown just as jiffy was bragging about Wales' discipline making them the best side in the tournament.
Wales luck ran out in the end.
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:02 pm
by TB63
Fuck!.
Well played France..
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:02 pm
by tc27
Amazing game - Wales luck with ref decisions ran out in the end
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:03 pm
by Ymx
That was a batshit crazy game
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:03 pm
by Torquemada 1420
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:01 pm
Fair fucks France, some mettle to come through that.
Just useless as favourites. Once game was "gone" with red, they start playing.
This will be immensely important for France if they learn from it.
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:04 pm
by Begbie
What a finish

Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:04 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Johnno is spot on. Wales frustrated France at the ruck (played Pearce like a violin for most of the game) brilliantly and heads went.
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:05 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Begbie wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:04 pm
What a finish
My sofa will be needing a new arm after the hammering its taken from my fist this last couple of hours.
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:06 pm
by Biffer
Well.
Blimey.
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:07 pm
by Plato’sCave
My sanity has not improved for watching that.
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:08 pm
by Slick
This is why we don’t want money and “growing the game” to fuck with the 6N. Awesome stuff.
Unlucky Wales, possibly deserved better, but if you need evidence that this French team is different, there you go.
I think we all need to take a moment to think of
Clive
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:10 pm
by BnM
This one is making Sonia look good.

Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:11 pm
by laurent
Good game that.
Really weak defensively Going back every impact for most of the game. Thankfully the Welsh had a bit of a meltdown
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:11 pm
by clive
Well played Wales, give it their all but came up short but very proud of that performance.
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:14 pm
by Slick
clive wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:11 pm
Well played Wales, give it their all but came up short but very proud of that performance.
Hard luck mate, feel for you
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:14 pm
by Torquemada 1420
laurent wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:11 pm
Good game that.
Really weak defensively Going back every impact for most of the game. Thankfully the Welsh had a bit of a meltdown
I tell you what that really showed: the loss of Le Roux as a 4th back row is huge. Failed to slow Eng ball down as well in his absence. The whole point of a defensive backrow with Aldritt and Ollivon is primarily defensive. If not going to defend then I'd rather see attacking 3eme with the likes of Woki or Macalou.
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:14 pm
by Slick
Great to see the pundits in the studio, legends of the game, so caught up in the match
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:16 pm
by Mr Tim Buktoo
France are my second team and i have been supporting them since i was a nipper, but they let you down constantly.
I never trust them but when you see them winning a game like this then maybe they have it in them to finally get that WC that they are obviously building to.
They have great players, they have a great coach in galthie, but edwards might be the difference to get them over the line.
Marrying the french flair to the english mentality.
Dupont is the best in the world. They have alldritt, Jalibert, Fickou, etc etc.
Role on the WC.
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:17 pm
by GogLais
BnM wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:10 pm
This one is making Sonia look good.
Indeed. How disappointed are you?
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:18 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Mr Tim Buktoo wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:16 pm
France are my second team and i have been supporting them since i was a nipper, but they let you down constantly.
I never trust them but when you see them winning a game like this then maybe they have it in them to finally get that WC that they are obviously building to.
They have great players, they have a great coach in galthie, but edwards might be the difference to get them over the line.
Marrying the french flair to the english mentality.
Dupont is the best in the world. They have alldritt, Jalibert, Fickou, etc etc.
Role on the WC.
I'm not the greatest fan of Jalibert (because I think Carbonel is better) but he was playing well and a rusty Ntamack was nowhere near as effective.
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:20 pm
by Slick
BnM wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:10 pm
This one is making Sonia look good.
Good call!
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:21 pm
by Biffer
God Inverdale is a prick. Grand Larceny. Fuck off you arsehole.
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:29 pm
by Yr Alban
Well, that was quite a game for the neutral.
I thought France did just about enough to edge it, though I didn’t think they were going to. How many times did they not-quite-score the third try? I thought their chance had gone after the disallowed try and red card, and thought it had really gone with the knock-on a few minutes later. It’s not over till it’s over though.
One thought from today: kickers get far too long to take their shot at goal. France converted their 3rd try in about 5 seconds flat, and it wasn’t an easy kick either. I’d support 30 secs max.
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:38 pm
by And 1 guest
Don't know who I wanted to win at the start, and equally torn at the end. But what a game that was.
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:38 pm
by And 1 guest
Don't know who I wanted to win at the start, and equally torn at the end. But what a game that was.
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:45 pm
by Mr Tim Buktoo
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:18 pm
Mr Tim Buktoo wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:16 pm
France are my second team and i have been supporting them since i was a nipper, but they let you down constantly.
I never trust them but when you see them winning a game like this then maybe they have it in them to finally get that WC that they are obviously building to.
They have great players, they have a great coach in galthie, but edwards might be the difference to get them over the line.
Marrying the french flair to the english mentality.
Dupont is the best in the world. They have alldritt, Jalibert, Fickou, etc etc.
Role on the WC.
I'm not the greatest fan of Jalibert (because I think Carbonel is better) but he was playing well and a rusty Ntamack was nowhere near as effective.
Yeah i hadnt been too impressed with jalibert early on but i think he has been great in the last 3 games. And he is only a young lad. As is Ntamack.
I like what galthie is trying to do.
Alldritt has to be my fav french player currently. He is class.
Thought baille and marchand had great games today also.
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:07 pm
by tcc_dc
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:29 pm
Well, that was quite a game for the neutral.
I thought France did just about enough to edge it, though I didn’t think they were going to. How many times did they not-quite-score the third try? I thought their chance had gone after the disallowed try and red card, and thought it had really gone with the knock-on a few minutes later. It’s not over till it’s over though.
One thought from today: kickers get far too long to take their shot at goal. France converted their 3rd try in about 5 seconds flat, and it wasn’t an easy kick either. I’d support 30 secs max.
Major League rugby this year in the US has some trial laws, and one is 60 seconds to kick versus 90, and if the try is scored under the post, automatic 7 and get on with it.
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:13 pm
by Biffer
tcc_dc wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:07 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:29 pm
Well, that was quite a game for the neutral.
I thought France did just about enough to edge it, though I didn’t think they were going to. How many times did they not-quite-score the third try? I thought their chance had gone after the disallowed try and red card, and thought it had really gone with the knock-on a few minutes later. It’s not over till it’s over though.
One thought from today: kickers get far too long to take their shot at goal. France converted their 3rd try in about 5 seconds flat, and it wasn’t an easy kick either. I’d support 30 secs max.
Major League rugby this year in the US has some trial laws, and one is 60 seconds to kick versus 90, and if the try is scored under the post, automatic 7 and get on with it.
Other thing I’d like to see is if the attacking team is given a penalty inside the 5, you can opt to go straight to a lineout from the 5 rather than having to kick it.
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:33 pm
by Begbie
Galthie calls the Welsh divers.
"If you really watch the reaction of the Welsh players, they specialise in making the opponents get red cards."
"Their body language is quite clear. I hope the referee takes that into consideration. I don’t think Paul deserves a sanction."
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:59 am
by laurent
Begbie wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:33 pm
Galthie calls the Welsh divers.
"If you really watch the reaction of the Welsh players, they specialise in making the opponents get red cards."
"Their body language is quite clear. I hope the referee takes that into consideration. I don’t think Paul deserves a sanction."
Galthier is in a really bad place right now.
French media has been rather pressing on the waffle gate...
His answer to Cécile Grès have been terrible.
His body language shows this.
I'm afraid he's digging a hole
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:11 am
by Torquemada 1420
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:29 pm
One thought from today: kickers get far too long to take their shot at goal. France converted their 3rd try in about 5 seconds flat, and it wasn’t an easy kick either. I’d support 30 secs max.
Pretty sure Sexton was well over a minute when he was running the clock down against Eng.
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:14 am
by Torquemada 1420
Mr Tim Buktoo wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:45 pm
Yeah i hadnt been too impressed with jalibert early on but i think he has been great in the last 3 games. And he is only a young lad. As is Ntamack.
I like what galthie is trying to do.
Alldritt has to be my fav french player currently. He is class.
Thought baille and marchand had great games today also.
Baille is a hell of a player in open play. I may have to admit to being wrong about Marchand in favouring Chat and Bougharit over him. Huge depth at hooker.
The weakness is at tighthead where Haouas adds little but indiscipline and Atonio must be the least fit player in world rugby. Desperately needs Bamba back.
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:15 am
by Biffer
laurent wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:59 am
Begbie wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:33 pm
Galthie calls the Welsh divers.
"If you really watch the reaction of the Welsh players, they specialise in making the opponents get red cards."
"Their body language is quite clear. I hope the referee takes that into consideration. I don’t think Paul deserves a sanction."
Galthier is in a really bad place right now.
French media has been rather pressing on the waffle gate...
His answer to Cécile Grès have been terrible.
His body language shows this.
I'm afraid he's digging a hole
He's right though
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:17 am
by Torquemada 1420
laurent wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:59 am
Begbie wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:33 pm
Galthie calls the Welsh divers.
"If you really watch the reaction of the Welsh players, they specialise in making the opponents get red cards."
"Their body language is quite clear. I hope the referee takes that into consideration. I don’t think Paul deserves a sanction."
Galthier is in a really bad place right now.
French media has been rather pressing on the waffle gate...
His answer to Cécile Grès have been terrible.
His body language shows this.
I'm afraid he's digging a hole
Ridiculous. Willemse behaved recklessly (not for the 1st time) and that was always yellow/red depending on how you read the eye part (personally I don't think he could have known he was going to end up with the eye contact).
He has a kinda tangential point on last night. Wales played Pearce superbly right up to their yellow card in frustrating France to the point of losing the plot.
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:19 am
by Torquemada 1420
Anyone want to tell me why pretty much every side has saved its best performance for France?
Maybe one could argue Ire were better against Eng but I think that was exaggerated by how poor Eng were.
Re: 6 nations 2021 Scrum down in the lockdown
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:23 am
by Torquemada 1420
I think towards the end of the game Pearce could and should have reviewed a probable French try
From Kaplan. Like I said in the match, Fickou was right: France had scored.
He also ignored Adam's blatant neck roll to prevent another French try (although where the f**k was Barnes for that one. He had plenty of intervention for any Fre foul play).