COVID-19 in SOUTH AFRICA

[Slick]

Lost a friend Sunday evening. He had trouble breathing and tested positive last week Thursday, was told to buy his own oxygen and go home as the hospitals are full. His wife said he looked to be better on Saturday. Sunday morning she woke up with him no longer breathing next to her. Poor woman, she and the kids were completely dependent on him.

That’s awful, sorry to hear mate

[Rinkals]

Lost a friend Sunday evening. He had trouble breathing and tested positive last week Thursday, was told to buy his own oxygen and go home as the hospitals are full. His wife said he looked to be better on Saturday. Sunday morning she woke up with him no longer breathing next to her. Poor woman, she and the kids were completely dependent on him.

Jesus, that's pretty awful.

Condolences.

[FalseBayFC]

Lost a friend Sunday evening. He had trouble breathing and tested positive last week Thursday, was told to buy his own oxygen and go home as the hospitals are full. His wife said he looked to be better on Saturday. Sunday morning she woke up with him no longer breathing next to her. Poor woman, she and the kids were completely dependent on him.

Jesus, that's pretty awful.

Condolences.

Very sad AJ. Kai to lose a friend to this.

[Calculon]

Is it my imagination or is every person in SA who I hear say they don’t want the jab, has Afrikaans as their first language?

Vaccine hesitancy slightly higher amongst Afrikaans speakers than English speakers.

https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/other/mo ... ar-AALV1MH

Still within the margin of error

[Calculon]

For many people it is. The church is also historically known to be against progress, especially if that progress goes against it's teachings. Not every Christian is an anti vaxxer or flat earther but every anti vaxxer and flat earther is Christian.

Well we known some religious people, not just Christians, are anti vaccine because they are happy to tell us that vaccines are against their religious beliefs. However, many non religious people are also sceptical about the vaccines. I know quite a few these people

[OomStruisbaai]

South Africa recorded 21 427 new confirmed cases of Covid-19 infections and 411 deaths

[Blake]

So mixed Covid news.

BAD:
My dad tested positive yesterday. Mom went for her test today. Luckily both are fully vaccinated, although they only got their second dose less than 14 days ago.

Hopefully the first dose will provide enough protection. So far (touch wood) they aren’t experiencing any severe symptoms. Feels like a cold apparently.

GOOD:
Sitting for my 15min observation as I type this; just got my first dose of Pfizer. Got myself on the waiting list at a local pharmacy and got the call an hour ago that they had a no-show.

[Calculon]

Fucking queue jumper








Hope your folks will be OK

[Blake]

Hope your folks will be OK

Thanks boet. Ja, me too hey. If they weren’t vaccinated I would have been very worried.

I’m still a little worried as neither of them are particularly healthy and both have co-morbidities, but I trust in the science and statistics.

Stoked that the waiting list think actually worked. I got the distinct impression the pharmacist was only writing my name down to humour me. Like it’s a tactic used to placate ineligible walk-in customers and avoid any conflict. So I was very surprised when I got the call today. Sound like the shitty weather caused many people to cancel.

I am under no illusion how privileged I am to be able to just drop my work In busy with, and at a moments notice have the means to travel to a pharmacy within 10 mins and pay the R435. But hey, if it was between me getting it and them discarding it, I’ll take the former thanks.

[OomStruisbaai]

SA records 22 910 new Covid-19 infections as 460 more die

[Sandstorm]

I am under no illusion how privileged I am to be able to just drop my work In busy with, and at a moments notice have the means to travel to a pharmacy within 10 mins and pay the R435.

You had to pay for your jab?????

[Enzedder]

Very sobering to read thru this thread and see what is happening over there. Best wishes to all of you guys, and your families.

I have had both of my jabs now and things are ramping up here on that front.

Can't wait until we can afford to take the risk of opening up the country

[Blake]

I am under no illusion how privileged I am to be able to just drop my work In busy with, and at a moments notice have the means to travel to a pharmacy within 10 mins and pay the R435.

You had to pay for your jab?????

Covered by medical aid, but yeah. I think government clinics are free, but private clinics / pharmacies you pay.

[Sandstorm]

I am under no illusion how privileged I am to be able to just drop my work In busy with, and at a moments notice have the means to travel to a pharmacy within 10 mins and pay the R435.

You had to pay for your jab?????

Covered by medical aid, but yeah. I think government clinics are free, but private clinics / pharmacies you pay.

That’s fucked!! They are free for everyone else around the world. You guys are being ripped off!

[Rinkals]

I am under no illusion how privileged I am to be able to just drop my work In busy with, and at a moments notice have the means to travel to a pharmacy within 10 mins and pay the R435.

You had to pay for your jab?????

Yes.

It's only the rich countries where you don't have to pay.

The Pharmaceutical Companies have to recoup their R&D costs somehow.

[Rinkals]

Actually, I'm being a little facetious there.

Obviously, the non-private patients are vaccinated free.

[Calculon]

You had to pay for your jab?????

Covered by medical aid, but yeah. I think government clinics are free, but private clinics / pharmacies you pay.

That’s fucked!! They are free for everyone else around the world. You guys are being ripped off!

Vaccination at public vaccination sites are free. Cost is not an issue for anyone wanting to get vaccinated

[Sandstorm]

Ah, so the rich Saffers are jumping the queue ahead of older, poorer patients by using their wallets?

Please don’t EVER whinge about Developed Countries hoarding the vaccine from Developing nations again.

[OomStruisbaai]

Very sobering to read thru this thread and see what is happening over there. Best wishes to all of you guys, and your families.

I have had both of my jabs now and things are ramping up here on that front.

Can't wait until we can afford to take the risk of opening up the country

Cheers Oom Enz. Hope we get past this, the real rugby will be in NZ in a few months time.

I'll have my 2nd jab in the next week, waiting for my sms. Will stand from 06h00 in the row. There will be 400 people and only 200 available.

[OomStruisbaai]

Ah, so the rich Saffers are jumping the queue ahead of older, poorer patients by using their wallets?

Please don’t EVER whinge about Developed Countries hoarding the vaccine from Developing nations again.

Apartheid!

[Calculon]

Ah, so the rich Saffers are jumping the queue ahead of older, poorer patients by using their wallets?

Please don’t EVER whinge about Developed Countries hoarding the vaccine from Developing nations again.

Are you drunk? Round here anyone 50 or over can go to the local public vaccination site and and get vaccinated for free. This is what I did, even though I'm under 50.

[sorCrer]

Ah, so the rich Saffers are jumping the queue ahead of older, poorer patients by using their wallets?

Please don’t EVER whinge about Developed Countries hoarding the vaccine from Developing nations again.

WTF are you talking about?

The fantastic lady that works for me and got her 2nd Pfizer yesterday in Alex and didn't pay a cent.

[Sandstorm]

Ah, so the rich Saffers are jumping the queue ahead of older, poorer patients by using their wallets?

Please don’t EVER whinge about Developed Countries hoarding the vaccine from Developing nations again.

Are you drunk? Round here anyone 50 or over can go to the local public vaccination site and and get vaccinated for free. This is what I did, even though I'm under 50.

Anyone can go and get a jab? Anyone of the 20 million adults in SA? Despite there being less than 5 million doses available so far?

Ok

[sorCrer]

Ah, so the rich Saffers are jumping the queue ahead of older, poorer patients by using their wallets?

Please don’t EVER whinge about Developed Countries hoarding the vaccine from Developing nations again.

Are you drunk? Round here anyone 50 or over can go to the local public vaccination site and and get vaccinated for free. This is what I did, even though I'm under 50.

Anyone can go and get a jab? Anyone of the 20 million adults in SA? Despite there being less than 5 million doses available so far?

Ok

Anyone over 50. Healthcare workers and teachers are done.

[OomStruisbaai]

Are you drunk? Round here anyone 50 or over can go to the local public vaccination site and and get vaccinated for free. This is what I did, even though I'm under 50.

Anyone can go and get a jab? Anyone of the 20 million adults in SA? Despite there being less than 5 million doses available so far?

Ok

Anyone over 50. Healthcare workers and teachers are done.

Kak. Maybe the rich lot that can afford the cost in the city.

Over 50s still waiting for their 2nd SMS for their appointment date for 1st shot.

Over 60s waiting for their 2nd SMS for their appointment date for their 2nd shot.

[sorCrer]

Anyone can go and get a jab? Anyone of the 20 million adults in SA? Despite there being less than 5 million doses available so far?

Ok

Anyone over 50. Healthcare workers and teachers are done.

Kak. Maybe the rich lot that can afford the cost in the city.

Over 50s still waiting for their 2nd SMS for their appointment date for 1st shot.

Over 60s waiting for their 2nd SMS for their appointment date for their 2nd shot.

WTF?

I've just posted about how the lady that works for me who is 60+ has had her second shot FOR FREE at Alex Clinic on Wednesday. And it's 42 days for the over 60's.

[Blake]

Maybe stop waiting around and get pro-active? I’m under 40 and managed to get my jab 4 days after just asking to get put on a manual waiting list at a pharmacy.

Walk-ins over 50 are being accommodated at many sites. My 51 year old aunt in Plett just walked in and got her jab last week.

I suspect payment is only if you have health insurance and if you get your shot at a private/retail pharmacy like I did.

The health insurance companies are happy to pay the R400 bucks as it is cheaper than multiple tests or covering a prolonged hospital stay. They’ve obviously crunched the numbers on that.

They also have an agreement with Government to cross-subsidize uninsured South Africans. So insured members actually pay for themselves and one other uninsured countryman (via their health insurance provider). I’m cool with that. It’s the least I can do.

Ideally it shouldn’t be needed, given the massive loan we took, but at the moment I’m just ready for this shit to be over. We can deal with all the fallout from the fraud and corruption later. You can’t investigate the case of the stolen cookie jar while your house is engulfed in flames.

[OomStruisbaai]

Maybe stop waiting around and get pro-active? I’m under 40 and managed to get my jab 4 days after just asking to get put on a manual waiting list at a pharmacy.

Walk-ins over 50 are being accommodated at many sites. My 51 year old aunt in Plett just walked in and got her jab last week.

I suspect payment is only if you have health insurance and if you get your shot at a private/retail pharmacy like I did.

The health insurance companies are happy to pay the R400 bucks as it is cheaper than multiple tests or covering a prolonged hospital stay. They’ve obviously crunched the numbers on that.

They also have an agreement with Government to cross-subsidize uninsured South Africans. So insured members actually pay for themselves and one other uninsured countryman (via their health insurance provider). I’m cool with that. It’s the least I can do.

Ideally it shouldn’t be needed, given the massive loan we took, but at the moment I’m just ready for this shit to be over. We can deal with all the fallout from the fraud and corruption later. You can’t investigate the case of the stolen cookie jar while your house is engulfed in flames.

Pro Active, Driving for 200km + to maybe get vaccinated. Do you know the poor in the country side of SA

[Chilli]

Us youngsters between 35 and 50 can start to register from 15 July.

[Big Nipper]

Us youngsters between 45 and 50 can start to register from 15 July.

35 and 50

That includes me!

[Chilli]

Us youngsters between 45 and 50 can start to register from 15 July.

35 and 50

That includes me!

Twas a typo.

[OomStruisbaai]

Us youngsters between 45 and 50 can start to register from 15 July.

35 and 50

That includes me!

Twas a typo.

This is good news. Maybe they speed up the registration process.

[Big Nipper]

35 and 50

That includes me!

Twas a typo.

This is good news. Maybe they speed up the registration process.

Fok daai kak, ek gaan sommer volgende week Clicks toe en my luck try

[FalseBayFC]

At what point do we, if ever, say "fuck civil liberties" and make this a compulsory thing. No restaurant entry, no air travel, no access to church, sports events etc without a certificate or a medical exemption. The availability of vaccines is going to become effectively limitless at some point.
It worries me that the over 60 cohort take up is so slow. I get that the poorer strata of society will have logistical issues but I have this nagging suspicion that vaccine hesitancy and plain social irresponsibility is more prevalent than we think.

If ever there was a time to make a hard nosed practical decision to save our economy and country it would be now. The country has been economically moribund since 2013. Imagine if we could open up before New Zealand and Australia? Our television and film industry would take off. Tourism would take off.

It would require a helluva effort but in my opinion would be much cheaper and involve less sweat and tears than trying to pick up the pieces after the fact.

[Calculon]

Vaccine hesitancy is reducing a little bit as more people get vaccinated but there is still a lot of foolish people in this country.

[OomStruisbaai]

Twas a typo.

This is good news. Maybe they speed up the registration process.

Fok daai kak, ek gaan sommer volgende week Clicks toe en my luck try

Julle is gelukkig in die stede. Hier is vaccines net beskikbaar by publieke klinieke, ens. Dan is daar ook net beperkte voorraad bv 200. Dis n kwessie van first come first serve. Ek sal 06h00 in daai ry gaan sit, dan kom hulle eers 09h00 hier aan van Bredasdorp en begin eers 10h00 te werk en is jy gelukkig wees om dit te kry teen 12h00. Baie mense word net eenvoudig weggewys.
Dan word die mense wat die tweede whatsup gekry het vir die dag se inenting eerste gehelp, dan die wat gerigstreer het en daarna is als op. As jy nie registreer het nie, kan jy maar by die huis bly.

[Calculon]

Dit klink nie goed nie maar hopelik sal die voorraad gou verbeter. Ek het meine by 'n publieke plek in Stellenbosch gekry en daar was geen tou nie.

[assfly]

At what point do we, if ever, say "fuck civil liberties" and make this a compulsory thing. No restaurant entry, no air travel, no access to church, sports events etc without a certificate or a medical exemption. The availability of vaccines is going to become effectively limitless at some point.
It worries me that the over 60 cohort take up is so slow. I get that the poorer strata of society will have logistical issues but I have this nagging suspicion that vaccine hesitancy and plain social irresponsibility is more prevalent than we think.

If ever there was a time to make a hard nosed practical decision to save our economy and country it would be now. The country has been economically moribund since 2013. Imagine if we could open up before New Zealand and Australia? Our television and film industry would take off. Tourism would take off.

It would require a helluva effort but in my opinion would be much cheaper and involve less sweat and tears than trying to pick up the pieces after the fact.

It'll never happen by force. Hesitancy is going to be come a big problem going forward, especially outside of the urban areas.

But as soon as airlines bring it in, as well as companies make it a mandatory thing, pickup will improve. Especially once the bullshit stories about people dying en mass from it stop circulating and people start to see the benefits of it.

[Blake]

Dit klink nie goed nie maar hopelik sal die voorraad gou verbeter. Ek het meine by 'n publieke plek in Stellenbosch gekry en daar was geen tou nie.

Die apteek waar ek was het ek hulle lys gesien. Omtrent 100 afsprake per dag.
Die verpleegster het gese hulle het baie selde enige entstof oor aan die einde van 'n dag, tensy daar kansellasies was of mense nie opdaag nie, wat sy ook gese het skaars is.
Gister se slegte weer het seker van die mense weggehou...nie dat ek gaan kla nie.

[Blake]

At what point do we, if ever, say "fuck civil liberties" and make this a compulsory thing. No restaurant entry, no air travel, no access to church, sports events etc without a certificate or a medical exemption. The availability of vaccines is going to become effectively limitless at some point.
It worries me that the over 60 cohort take up is so slow. I get that the poorer strata of society will have logistical issues but I have this nagging suspicion that vaccine hesitancy and plain social irresponsibility is more prevalent than we think.

If ever there was a time to make a hard nosed practical decision to save our economy and country it would be now. The country has been economically moribund since 2013. Imagine if we could open up before New Zealand and Australia? Our television and film industry would take off. Tourism would take off.

It would require a helluva effort but in my opinion would be much cheaper and involve less sweat and tears than trying to pick up the pieces after the fact.

Vaccine hesitancy and anti-vax movements have been a thing as long as vaccines have been a thing.
Interesting PODcast > https://www.jasonfeifer.com/episode/whe ... came-from/

Forcing vaccination is always contentious, moreso in the USA and Europe than here.
I think autocratic governments like Apartheid one had more luck forcing things on citizens than the current one will be able to do.
We were successful in the past...but that was before the social media age. Even today there are parents kicking up a big stink when some schools require basic childhood vaccinations for enrollment.

It might get better as more and more people get the Covid vaccines and all the stories turn out to be BS, but in my experience people will just double-down.
If the unvaccinated weren't a risk to the vaccinated, I would have said "Fuck it" and let nature take its course. Unfortunately that's not how herd immunity works.

Giving organisations and institutions the mandate to refuse service based in the inability to produce a certificate might be the only solution.
I'd support that.