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Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:57 am
by duke
SaintK wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:42 am
Green light echo wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:05 am Rugby fans in the North can be grateful to the absolute shitshow and incompetence displayed by their governments in relation to Covid 19. Imagine being fleeced a pound of flesh to watch the turgid dross that will be served up during English v Wales. Soul destroying. No wonder you are all so angry and depressed. Should be Bleaky not Blighty. :lol: :lol:
Thanks for your best wishes. Now fuck off twat!
And when you've finished fucking off, fuck off some more

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:02 pm
by Paddington Bear
Now we can get crowds in, should they start the Championship? I reckon with a country starved of entertainment there's a good chance a lot of clubs could fill the 2,000 max capacity, more than most usually get...

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:25 pm
by Longshanks
Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:02 pm Now we can get crowds in, should they start the Championship? I reckon with a country starved of entertainment there's a good chance a lot of clubs could fill the 2,000 max capacity, more than most usually get...
That's a very good point. Could be a real boost for the smaller clubs.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:39 pm
by Kawazaki
Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:02 pm Now we can get crowds in, should they start the Championship? I reckon with a country starved of entertainment there's a good chance a lot of clubs could fill the 2,000 max capacity, more than most usually get...


Eh?

What news have I missed?

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:39 pm
by JM2K6
I think the limits are related to % of available seats - having 2k people packed together isn't the idea

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:55 pm
by SaintK
Longshanks wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:25 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:02 pm Now we can get crowds in, should they start the Championship? I reckon with a country starved of entertainment there's a good chance a lot of clubs could fill the 2,000 max capacity, more than most usually get...
That's a very good point. Could be a real boost for the smaller clubs.
I don't think there will be any competetive rugby below the Premiership until the start of the 21/22 season!

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:20 pm
by Longshanks
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:39 pm I think the limits are related to % of available seats - having 2k people packed together isn't the idea
Yes
But my local club gets about 80 at best
Double that would be great. They could easily take 1000

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:51 pm
by Paddington Bear
Most championship grounds have a capacity of c.4,000. Could get viable crowds in

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:06 pm
by Hal Jordan
750 - 1,000 would probably be just enough to keep the wolf from the door long enough to see it through to "normality".

Christ, I went to the England vs Wales 6N match this year and there is no way you would get me in those conditions without proper vaccination having been carried out. Thousands of drunken people screaming at the top of their lungs, jammed together like cattle. And that was just the queue for the toilets.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:22 pm
by Green light echo
duke wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:57 am
SaintK wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:42 am
Green light echo wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:05 am Rugby fans in the North can be grateful to the absolute shitshow and incompetence displayed by their governments in relation to Covid 19. Imagine being fleeced a pound of flesh to watch the turgid dross that will be served up during English v Wales. Soul destroying. No wonder you are all so angry and depressed. Should be Bleaky not Blighty. :lol: :lol:
Thanks for your best wishes. Now fuck off twat!
And when you've finished fucking off, fuck off some

Best wishes :lol:

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:50 pm
by SaintK
Green light echo wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:22 pm
duke wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:57 am
SaintK wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:42 am
Thanks for your best wishes. Now fuck off twat!
And when you've finished fucking off, fuck off some more

Best wishes :lol:
Please re-read the post from Duke
When you've done that please run along and look up the words irony and sarcasm.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:21 pm
by sockwithaticket
Teams for Wasps v Glaws tomorrow.

Second half clashes with the England game, but England have been so dull I'm contemplating watching this instead.

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Basically the same team as last week allowing for Umaga and Shields' injuries. Slightly surprised to see Vellacott benched for young Wolstenholme, huge vote of confidence for the lad. Gopperth hasn't played 10 in a while, will be interesting to see how he gets on. It'll be nice to see Atkinson get some minutes and this time hopefully avoid any senior England internationals attempting to decapitate him.


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Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:24 pm
by sockwithaticket
SaintK wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:50 pm
Green light echo wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:22 pm
duke wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:57 am

And when you've finished fucking off, fuck off some more

Best wishes :lol:
Please re-read the post from Duke
When you've done that please run along and look up the words irony and sarcasm.
Please re-read the post from Duke
When you've done that please run along and look up the words irony and sarcasm.
Fixed the quote and would echo the message.

@Green light echo - once you've followed the instructions, continue to fuck off until you make it back to your starting position and then start to fuck off all over again. Ta.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:44 pm
by Green light echo
SaintK wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:50 pm
Green light echo wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:22 pm
duke wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:57 am

And when you've finished fucking off, fuck off some more

Best wishes :lol:
Please re-read the post from Duke
When you've done that please run along and look up the words irony and sarcasm.
Irony that's good. Yes a fading star. Well what did Eden say? We will play Greece to your Rome. Size. Still playing it out. Pathetic really.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:34 pm
by sockwithaticket
Falcons - Sale is a horrible game to watch. Geordies with a healthy lead, though, which is nice to see.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:38 pm
by Tichtheid
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:34 pm Falcons - Sale is a horrible game to watch. Geordies with a healthy lead, though, which is nice to see.


Bit of bosh between penalties, that’s been about the size of it so far

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:57 pm
by notfatcat
What are those things on the Newc players' necks?

Not their heads - those little patch things.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:00 pm
by sockwithaticket
notfatcat wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:57 pm What are those things on the Newc players' necks?

Not their heads - those little patch things.
Impact sensors, volunteered to be part of a study.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:00 pm
by Tichtheid
notfatcat wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:57 pm What are those things on the Newc players' necks?

Not their heads - those little patch things.
Sensors for a concussion study

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:38 pm
by sockwithaticket
Does sending the backs into a maul ever actually pay off? Most of the time it just seems to make the momentum weird and complicate get the ball back to the scrum half when needed.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:43 pm
by sockwithaticket
:lol:

Toby Flood is the most ungainly rugby player ever. He's just scored the winning try for Falcons and it was indistinguishable from a face plant.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:44 pm
by Dinsdale Piranha
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:38 pm Does sending the backs into a maul ever actually pay off? Most of the time it just seems to make the momentum weird and complicate get the ball back to the scrum half when needed.
Ever? Yes.

Often. No :)

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:44 pm
by Kawazaki
Micky Young looks like the best English 9 in the league at the moment.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:46 pm
by sockwithaticket
Dinsdale Piranha wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:44 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:38 pm Does sending the backs into a maul ever actually pay off? Most of the time it just seems to make the momentum weird and complicate get the ball back to the scrum half when needed.
Ever? Yes.

Often. No :)
I'm really struggling to recall the last occasion.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:56 pm
by Raggs
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:46 pm
Dinsdale Piranha wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:44 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:38 pm Does sending the backs into a maul ever actually pay off? Most of the time it just seems to make the momentum weird and complicate get the ball back to the scrum half when needed.
Ever? Yes.

Often. No :)
I'm really struggling to recall the last occasion.
I reckon Barritt was useful. Gopperth is useful in as much as he'd take the ball off the last forward, which frees the forward up to actually do some useful pushing, but mostly, no.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:16 pm
by Oxbow
I refer you to last week where Tom Collins scored off a Saints rolling maul. That's all the evidence I need.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:29 pm
by Hal Jordan
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:43 pm :lol:

Toby Flood is the most ungainly rugby player ever. He's just scored the winning try for Falcons and it was indistinguishable from a face plant.
I believe JMK described him as being made out of elbows.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:40 pm
by Tichtheid
Flood was/is alright, he had big boots to fill

There have been a few exceptions of course, but overall, number 10 seems to me to have been the most difficult shirt to fill in the pro era. Yeah we've had some really great players, but we used to have lots of great tens every year in every international team, like really good 7s.

The flankers have survived the transition to professionalism, perhaps because of the predominance of the pro defence - it's easier to do.

But I think we are still catching up on attack, and on really great 10s, a hard flat pass is what counts as great stand off play now, for the most part.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:13 am
by sockwithaticket
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:40 pm Flood was/is alright, he had big boots to fill

Don't get me wrong I have a lot of love for Toby Flood, he was unfairly maligned by a lot of England fans back when he was gracing the test stage and managed to work minor miracles with some of the dross outside him then.

He does have the uncanny knack of looking like a baby giraffe taking its first steps even when making stellar contributions, though.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:14 am
by sockwithaticket
Hal Jordan wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:29 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:43 pm :lol:

Toby Flood is the most ungainly rugby player ever. He's just scored the winning try for Falcons and it was indistinguishable from a face plant.
I believe JMK described him as being made out of elbows.
:clap:

Quite right.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:52 am
by ASMO
It was an awful, awful game to watch, rugby seems to have taken a fairly significant step backwards. I cant say in all honesty i have seen one domestic game this season (or Nations cup/6N) that has shown any real attacking intent or skill. Kick and chase and defend, defend, defend seems to be the only tactic employed.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:00 am
by Line6 HXFX
ASMO wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:52 am It was an awful, awful game to watch, rugby seems to have taken a fairly significant step backwards. I cant say in all honesty i have seen one domestic game this season (or Nations cup/6N) that has shown any real attacking intent or skill. Kick and chase and defend, defend, defend seems to be the only tactic employed.
The all blacks kick about as much as anyone, but they seem to have the players that can really really use it as a weopen.

See for me this Wales England game isn't about entertainment.
It isn't even about Rugby.
Wales only picked Rugby Union because of the English.
We sometimes need reminding of this.
When the game split and went professional, the Welsh could have all have given up our extremely dangerous day jobs, working in the mines and steelworks and headed north, got paid lots to play rugby league.
Instead we decided on mass to work in heavy industry, down the mines in dangerous conditions etc, just so we could kick the crap out of the English public school tw3ts every week, even if it went unpaid. It was it's own reward.
See rugby isn't a sport here, it is class war. It is how us working classes rise up and give the posh, overpriviledged English cunts a bloody nose.
This is what it means to us.
Frankly, if I was a working class English kid, I would support Wales.
The English Rugby Union team doesn't represent you.
They Represent Boris, Cameron, Osborne, and every single posho, arrogant English overprviledged knob, throughout history who despises, hates and wants to punish you.
English supporters think they are nice people, what the English Rugby Union team represents isn't nice at all.
Not to many people and certainly not to the Welsh.

We will probably lose today, the posh who has been given everything in life and who look down on us with utter contempt may win this one..but hopecully we will be back stronger and give the English Rugby Union side, a bloody nose, on behalf of mankind, in the future.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:06 am
by ScarfaceClaw
No mention of Thatcher? You’ve mellowed man.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:32 am
by Kawazaki
Line6 HXFX wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:00 am The all blacks kick about as much as anyone, but they seem to have the players that can really really use it as a weopen.

See for me this Wales England game isn't about entertainment.
It isn't even about Rugby.
Wales only picked Rugby Union because of the English.
We sometimes need reminding of this.
When the game split and went professional, the Welsh could have all have given up our extremely dangerous day jobs, working in the mines and steelworks and headed north, got paid lots to play rugby league.
Instead we decided on mass to work in heavy industry, down the mines in dangerous conditions etc, just so we could kick the crap out of the English public school tw3ts every week, even if it went unpaid. It was it's own reward.
See rugby isn't a sport here, it is class war. It is how us working classes rise up and give the posh, overpriviledged English cunts a bloody nose.
This is what it means to us.
Frankly, if I was a working class English kid, I would support Wales.

The English Rugby Union team doesn't represent you.
They Represent Boris, Cameron, Osborne, and every single posho, arrogant English overprviledged knob, throughout history who despises, hates and wants to punish you.
English supporters think they are nice people, what the English Rugby Union team represents isn't nice at all.
Not to many people and certainly not to the Welsh.

We will probably lose today, the posh who has been given everything in life and who look down on us with utter contempt may win this one..but hopecully we will be back stronger and give the English Rugby Union side, a bloody nose, on behalf of mankind, in the future.


Those English kids don't just support the Welsh, they play for them as well. This fixture is becoming an England v England 'B' fixture.

HTH

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:56 am
by Hells Bells
I’m English and I don’t want to represent Boris, Cameron, Thatcher etc. Ffs :sick:

Great win for the Falcons, only 3 new signings in the starting 15 from the start of last season, everyone else was there when we got relegated. In that time we lost Green, J Williams, Harris, Dunbar, Nagusa, Sinoti, Takalua, Witty, G Young, Goneva and others and didn’t play for 250 days yet we’re competing, it’s a bloody miracle.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:10 am
by Ymx
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:24 pm
SaintK wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:50 pm
Green light echo wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:22 pm
Please re-read the post from Duke
When you've done that please run along and look up the words irony and sarcasm.
Please re-read the post from Duke
When you've done that please run along and look up the words irony and sarcasm.
Fixed the quote and would echo the message.

@Green light echo - once you've followed the instructions, continue to fuck off until you make it back to your starting position and then start to fuck off all over again. Ta.
Don’t say I didn’t warn you!!

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:04 am
by SaintK
Hells Bells wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:56 am I’m English and I don’t want to represent Boris, Cameron, Thatcher etc. Ffs :sick:

Great win for the Falcons, only 3 new signings in the starting 15 from the start of last season, everyone else was there when we got relegated. In that time we lost Green, J Williams, Harris, Dunbar, Nagusa, Sinoti, Takalua, Witty, G Young, Goneva and others and didn’t play for 250 days yet we’re competing, it’s a bloody miracle.
Yes, well played Falcons
Have to say it was one of the worst matches I've seen in a long time. The amount of kicking was utterly ridiculous and appallingly inaccurate from both teams
Even Wayne Barnes had a poor match
Just as well there were no spectators watching the 80 minutes of dross!

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:40 am
by Dinsdale Piranha
SaintK wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:04 am
Hells Bells wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:56 am I’m English and I don’t want to represent Boris, Cameron, Thatcher etc. Ffs :sick:

Great win for the Falcons, only 3 new signings in the starting 15 from the start of last season, everyone else was there when we got relegated. In that time we lost Green, J Williams, Harris, Dunbar, Nagusa, Sinoti, Takalua, Witty, G Young, Goneva and others and didn’t play for 250 days yet we’re competing, it’s a bloody miracle.
Yes, well played Falcons
Have to say it was one of the worst matches I've seen in a long time. The amount of kicking was utterly ridiculous and appallingly inaccurate from both teams
Even Wayne Barnes had a poor match
Just as well there were no spectators watching the 80 minutes of dross!
Yes, it was dire to watch.

There was an inordinate amount of kicking and very little chasing. It's usually called kick-chase for a reason.

Wayne Barnes spent most of the match ignoring forward passes. I think the reason is that he had forgotten what a pass looked like due to the aforementioned kicking

Also Faf had an off day and didn't get much going.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:01 pm
by Saint
Saints vs Quins. Not expecting much from us tbh

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:09 pm
by Oxbow
Not getting much so far.