NPR

Kawazaki wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:44 pm Ted Hill is just being pissed about isn't he.

Blackmac wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:43 pm As a Scotland fan, yesterday's second half was a difficult watch but this is the most boring 8 try game I've ever seen. It's like a training run for both sides.

Blackmac wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:43 pm As a Scotland fan, yesterday's second half was a difficult watch but this is the most boring 8 try game I've ever seen. It's like a training run for both sides.

Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:49 pm

They’re different. This game was entertaining until about 55 mins when both sides realised Italy couldn’t win. Scotland gave up and started showboating and nearly lost to an appalling side as a result.

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:50 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:49 pm

They’re different. This game was entertaining until about 55 mins when both sides realised Italy couldn’t win. Scotland gave up and started showboating and nearly lost to an appalling side as a result.

Not even close to what happened

Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:53 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:50 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:49 pm

They’re different. This game was entertaining until about 55 mins when both sides realised Italy couldn’t win. Scotland gave up and started showboating and nearly lost to an appalling side as a result.

Not even close to what happened

We’ll have to agree to disagree, and judging from facial expressions Finn Russell agrees with me

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:58 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:53 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:50 pm


Not even close to what happened

We’ll have to agree to disagree, and judging from facial expressions Finn Russell agrees with me

Nope.

That's bollocks. There was no showboating. When the subs came on we lost our set piece. Ashman lost five out of five throws at the lineout. Sutherland isn't anywhere near where he was when he made the Lions squad four years ago. Fuck knows how Hurd gets into an international squad, he simply can't scrummage.

We also lost any control at half back as Horne and Jordan are not nearly as good as White and Russell. We got done over at the breakdown too by a good Welsh back row. We lost any kind of flow after 50 odd minutes because we just didn't have the ball and what little possession we did have we gave away.

Blackmac wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:03 pm Fuck me. Seconds after the whistle we have "M Smith for the Lions".

Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:00 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:58 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:53 pm

We’ll have to agree to disagree, and judging from facial expressions Finn Russell agrees with me

Nope.

That's bollocks. There was no showboating. When the subs came on we lost our set piece. Ashman lost five out of five throws at the lineout. Sutherland isn't anywhere near where he was when he made the Lions squad four years ago. Fuck knows how Hurd gets into an international squad, he simply can't scrummage.

We also lost any control at half back as Horne and Jordan are not nearly as good as White and Russell. We got done over at the breakdown too by a good Welsh back row. We lost any kind of flow after 50 odd minutes because we just didn't have the ball and what little possession we did have we gave away.

As I say we’re going to have to agree to disagree on this, and I will be wearing my Scottish cricket shirt to the pub under my English rugby shirt next Saturday

Kawazaki wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:01 pm JVP is not a very good scrumhalf. England just lost all shape when he came on.

F. Smith is simply a better flyhalf than M. Smith regardless of 'moments', he simply does what 10s do better. He was my MoM.

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:05 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:00 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:58 pm


Nope.

That's bollocks. There was no showboating. When the subs came on we lost our set piece. Ashman lost five out of five throws at the lineout. Sutherland isn't anywhere near where he was when he made the Lions squad four years ago. Fuck knows how Hurd gets into an international squad, he simply can't scrummage.

We also lost any control at half back as Horne and Jordan are not nearly as good as White and Russell. We got done over at the breakdown too by a good Welsh back row. We lost any kind of flow after 50 odd minutes because we just didn't have the ball and what little possession we did have we gave away.

As I say we’re going to have to agree to disagree on this, and I will be wearing my Scottish cricket shirt to the pub under my English rugby shirt next Saturday

You can wear a Pink Panther suit for all I care.

Can you give some examples of the "showboating"

Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:09 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:05 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:00 pm

As I say we’re going to have to agree to disagree on this, and I will be wearing my Scottish cricket shirt to the pub under my English rugby shirt next Saturday

You can wear a Pink Panther suit for all I care.

Can you give some examples of the "showboating"

OK champ, we’ll just put Wales’ 20 unanswered points down to their excellent talent in attack which somehow has not been on display against any other opposition for two years

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:10 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:09 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:05 pm


You can wear a Pink Panther suit for all I care.

Can you give some examples of the "showboating"

OK champ, we’ll just put Wales’ 20 unanswered points down to their excellent talent in attack which somehow has not been on display against any other opposition for two years

So that will be a "No I can't give examples" then

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 3:58 pm

SaintK wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 3:54 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 3:38 pm M Smith burned by an 8.

By easily the fastest forward in the Prem

Your submission for mitigation will be taken into consideration.

Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:10 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:10 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:09 pm

OK champ, we’ll just put Wales’ 20 unanswered points down to their excellent talent in attack which somehow has not been on display against any other opposition for two years

So that will be a "No I can't give examples" then

I just have

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:16 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:10 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:10 pm



So that will be a "No I can't give examples" then

I just have

No you haven't.

Been a good afternoon at the bar has it?

Presumably France's Haigh scoring yesterday was down to Ireland showboating?

Were Wales showboating when they shipped the first five tries to Scotland?

We were caught narrow for the second Wales try and the next two were down to missed tackles and, as I already said, losing the set piece and the territory and possession that comes with it.

Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:19 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:16 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:10 pm

I just have

No you haven't.

Been a good afternoon at the bar has it?

Presumably France's Haigh scoring yesterday was down to Ireland showboating?

Were Wales showboating when they shipped the first five tries to Scotland?

We were caught narrow for the second Wales try and the next two were down to missed tackles and, as I already said, losing the set piece and the territory and possession that comes with it.

Watched the game on the sofa with a cup of tea - we can disagree on how you shipped 20 unanswered points against *that* Wales team and I have not sought to argue about it. If you’re happy with how your team finished that game then fine, it’s your team not mine

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:26 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:19 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:16 pm


No you haven't.

Been a good afternoon at the bar has it?

Presumably France's Haigh scoring yesterday was down to Ireland showboating?

Were Wales showboating when they shipped the first five tries to Scotland?

We were caught narrow for the second Wales try and the next two were down to missed tackles and, as I already said, losing the set piece and the territory and possession that comes with it.

Watched the game on the sofa with a cup of tea - we can disagree on how you shipped 20 unanswered points against *that* Wales team and I have not sought to argue about it. If you’re happy with how your team finished that game then fine, it’s your team not mine

Now you're making up more stuff out of nowhere.

Did I say I was happy? No.

I outlined where we went terribly wrong.

Showboating means players showing off, it doesn't mean losing control of a match - we weren't throwing stupid passes or trying to play from our own goal line

Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:28 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:26 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:19 pm

Watched the game on the sofa with a cup of tea - we can disagree on how you shipped 20 unanswered points against *that* Wales team and I have not sought to argue about it. If you’re happy with how your team finished that game then fine, it’s your team not mine

Now you're making up more stuff out of nowhere.

Did I say I was happy? No.

I outlined where we went terribly wrong.

Showboating means players showing off, it doesn't mean losing control of a match - we weren't throwing stupid passes or trying to play from our own goal line

As I’ve said throughout this exchange, we’re going to have to agree to disagree

Hal Jordan wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:38 pm OK, Scotland were shit in the second half, we get it.

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 6:09 pm

Hal Jordan wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:38 pm OK, Scotland were shit in the second half, we get it.

For the sake of accuracy, Scotland were shit for the last 20 minutes

Big D wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:20 pm Some nice hands being shown.

Italy have been a huge disappointment the last couple of games of the 6N.

sturginho wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 6:47 pm

Big D wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:20 pm Some nice hands being shown.

Italy have been a huge disappointment the last couple of games of the 6N.

Not just the last couple

Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:28 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:26 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:19 pm

Watched the game on the sofa with a cup of tea - we can disagree on how you shipped 20 unanswered points against *that* Wales team and I have not sought to argue about it. If you’re happy with how your team finished that game then fine, it’s your team not mine

Now you're making up more stuff out of nowhere.

Did I say I was happy? No.

I outlined where we went terribly wrong.

Showboating means players showing off, it doesn't mean losing control of a match - we weren't throwing stupid passes or trying to play from our own goal line

As I’ve said throughout this exchange, we’re going to have to agree to disagree

Watching the Ireland v France game yesterday I have to make my views known about the horrendous clear-out incident that saw the great Antoine Dupont leave the field with a suspected ACL injury.

For years Ireland and Leinster have been getting away with reckless and wild clearing at the breakdown. It’s co-ordinated chaos in their eyes, but in the eyes of other professional players they consistently go way beyond what’s acceptable on the pitch.

Let’s be honest, Ireland have form for this. For years they’ve pushed the breakdown chaos well past what is either acceptable or safe – just ask Malcolm Marx, a victim of a similar and possibly even worse incident in the summer for South Africa against Ireland. We saw Josh van der Flier flying into a ruck two years ago in the EPCR Champions Cup, clash heads with one of the opposition props and then have the temerity to play the victim to the referee! So I don’t buy Irish innocence in this instance simply because of the amount of previous, proven or unproven, that they have.

World Rugby have to act; protecting its assets – the players – is a key tenant of their safety protocols and there’s no way that, in a contact situation with 125kg athletes piling in, that players should avoid scrutiny for consistent reckless behaviour that endangers careers.

Paddington Bear wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 9:31 am Bielle-Biarrey has a chance to equal or break what I’d imagine is one of the last ancient Championship records standing.

He’s on 7 tries this year, 8 have been scored twice before, by Cyril Lowe (England 1914) and Ian Smith (Scotland 1925). Lowe followed on from that season by becoming a decorated fighter ace.

Can’t imagine anyone would suggest LBB would be an undeserving record breaker or equaller, but there would be something a little sad at losing perhaps the last record to stand for a century

Gumboot wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:16 am Furry muff... but it's not like he doesn't have form for flakey defence. Not Cipriani bad, but pretty damn bad. Joe Schmidt must be licking his lips at the prospect of him starting for the Lions.

Edit: just watched it again, and while I'm still not impressed with Smith's indecision, as you say there were a few other England players who should've done much better before Smith was even put in that situation. Still, the fullback is literally your last line of defence, so he needs to be a damn good defender. I'm a bit confused as to why Borthwick likes to play him there so much?