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Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:06 am**

Hair is part of the head, so he grasped the head, pulled, twisted and forced a player downwards while twisting. Meets the definition by the law.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:06 am**

FalseBayFC wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:03 am Hill is an absolute fkkn grub!

He's got away with one there, that should definitely be a citing.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:08 am**

sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:06 am
ASMO wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:02 am Absolutely turgid shit by England, has the ball actually made it down the line to the wings?
Marchant seems to be playing on the wing despite shirt number and it's made it to him there plenty. In true England fashion he had very little time or space when it did get there and so he's mainly just had to get tackled and recycle.

Marchant is the nearest we have to any pace in the backs.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:09 am**

sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:06 am
ASMO wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:02 am Absolutely turgid shit by England, has the ball actually made it down the line to the wings?
Marchant seems to be playing on the wing despite shirt number and it's made it to him there plenty. In true England fashion he had very little time or space when it did get there and so he's mainly just had to get tackled and recycle.

We're using Coka as a floating carrying option.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:12 am**

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:00 am
PCPhil wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 10:50 am
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 10:50 am These cards are bullshit
Pray explain…..

That was just two locks exchanging alpha vibes, no malice, no danger. Two yellows at most but mostly just needs a word from the ref to not be twats.

Head to head is ALWAYS going to be red FFS. The only debate is whether Hill should have perma gone too.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:14 am**

Dinsdale Piranha wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:08 am
Marchant is the nearest we have to any pace in the backs.

Steward is untouchable under a high ball but he's slower than most intl backrowers.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:16 am**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:14 am
Dinsdale Piranha wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:08 am
Marchant is the nearest we have to any pace in the backs.
Steward is untouchable under a high ball but he's slower than most intl backrowers.

Seen some faster locks.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:16 am**

Itoje gives away another dim pen. A trait that blighted his game for so long and thought he'd ironed out.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:17 am**

PCPhil wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:16 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:14 am
Dinsdale Piranha wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:08 am
Marchant is the nearest we have to any pace in the backs.
Steward is untouchable under a high ball but he's slower than most intl backrowers.
Seen some faster locks.

Including those now in Hill's hands.....

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:20 am**

Where is the England support runners to clear out

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:20 am**

Farrell

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:21 am**

England to lose it from here.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:21 am**

ASMO wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:20 am Where is the England support runners to clear out

Hanging around in the backs as usual as I am sure SA and NZ and Ireland and France are observing.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:22 am**

Dominating the Wallabies physical

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:23 am**

Great forward try.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:23 am**

Cynical as anything from the wobblies there, collapse the maul and from the side.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:23 am**

PCPhil wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:21 am
ASMO wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:20 am Where is the England support runners to clear out
Hanging around in the backs as usual as I am sure SA and NZ and Ireland and France are observing.

When you have good open field runners like Ollivon, Macalou etc, I can see some reasoning for that. Esp if you are on top. But none of Eng's starting backrow is a Magne, for example.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:24 am**

The only way Eng looked like scoring a try.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:25 am**

With that level of kicking accuracy, not sure what Farrell is adding to this Eng team. May as well let Smith take the dead ball stuff.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:26 am**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:25 am With that level of kicking accuracy, not sure what Farrell is adding to this Eng team. May as well let Smith take the dead ball stuff.

Yeah, that worked well against the Barbarians.

Marcus Smith has been terrible in this match so far.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:29 am**

Ludlum looks good

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:29 am**

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:26 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:25 am With that level of kicking accuracy, not sure what Farrell is adding to this Eng team. May as well let Smith take the dead ball stuff.

Yeah, that worked well against the Barbarians.

Marcus Smith has been terrible in this match so far.

Cant see much wrong apart from maybe the misstimed pass in 1st half. Defence been good and kicked well.
Englands tactics aren’t helping: get ball, 2 forwards drives to allow aus defence to settle. Give to backs.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:30 am**

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:26 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:25 am With that level of kicking accuracy, not sure what Farrell is adding to this Eng team. May as well let Smith take the dead ball stuff.
Yeah, that worked well against the Barbarians.

Marcus Smith has been terrible in this match so far.

That doesn't really counter my point though, does it? Farrell missing too much. Smith missing too much. But Farrell's only real contribution is pen kicking reliability (like Jaminet for France). If either player drops away from that, they have little else to offer.

If you are suggesting Farrell at 10

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:31 am**

Vunipola now playing on the wing. FM, clueless stuff in attack.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:31 am**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:30 am
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:26 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:25 am With that level of kicking accuracy, not sure what Farrell is adding to this Eng team. May as well let Smith take the dead ball stuff.
Yeah, that worked well against the Barbarians.

Marcus Smith has been terrible in this match so far.
That doesn't really counter my point though, does it? Farrell missing too much. Smith missing too much. But Farrell's only real contribution is pen kicking reliability (like Jaminet for France). If either player drops away from that, they have little else to offer.

If you are suggesting Farrell at 10

He has been at 10 for half the plays.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:32 am**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:30 am
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:26 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:25 am With that level of kicking accuracy, not sure what Farrell is adding to this Eng team. May as well let Smith take the dead ball stuff.
Yeah, that worked well against the Barbarians.

Marcus Smith has been terrible in this match so far.
That doesn't really counter my point though, does it? Farrell missing too much. Smith missing too much. But Farrell's only real contribution is pen kicking reliability (like Jaminet for France). If either player drops away from that, they have little else to offer.

If you are suggesting Farrell at 10

Farrell's a better 10 than 12 so why not?

You clearly don't rate Farrell but then you're an idiot so we have to make allowances.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:33 am**

Itoje's presence at that ruck constituted illegally flopping over his own player and contributing zero to securing the ball.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:33 am**

PCPhil wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:29 am
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:26 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:25 am With that level of kicking accuracy, not sure what Farrell is adding to this Eng team. May as well let Smith take the dead ball stuff.

Yeah, that worked well against the Barbarians.

Marcus Smith has been terrible in this match so far.
Cant see much wrong apart from maybe the misstimed pass in 1st half. Defence been good and kicked well.
Englands tactics aren’t helping: get ball, 2 forwards drives to allow aus defence to settle. Give to backs.

It's just Toga's typical overreaction to anyone saying something against a Saracens player. Goes double for the sainted Owen Farrell.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:34 am**

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:32 am Farrell's a better 10 than 12 so why not?

You clearly don't rate Farrell but then you're an idiot so we have to make allowances.

Well, you finally got to understanding and conceding my original point. Farrell is a sh*tehouse 10 and if you think he's better there than 12, then his only place is not on the field at all.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:34 am**

fishfoodie wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 10:52 am
Ymx wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 10:50 am Fuck me, that’s bad justice.

England benefitted massively from that antagonistic behaviour
Yep,should be both gone; but the officials fucked it up by not dealing with it at the previous incident, & Hill should now be cited for the earlier shit

Agree. Should have been 2 reds.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:35 am**

sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:33 am
PCPhil wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:29 am
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:26 am

Yeah, that worked well against the Barbarians.

Marcus Smith has been terrible in this match so far.
Cant see much wrong apart from maybe the misstimed pass in 1st half. Defence been good and kicked well.
Englands tactics aren’t helping: get ball, 2 forwards drives to allow aus defence to settle. Give to backs.
It's just Toga's typical overreaction to anyone saying something against a Saracens player. Goes double for the sainted Owen Farrell.

Smith is easily having his worst England match. I don't think he should be subbed though because he's a very good player.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:35 am**

sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:33 am
PCPhil wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:29 am
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:26 am

Yeah, that worked well against the Barbarians.

Marcus Smith has been terrible in this match so far.
Cant see much wrong apart from maybe the misstimed pass in 1st half. Defence been good and kicked well.
Englands tactics aren’t helping: get ball, 2 forwards drives to allow aus defence to settle. Give to backs.
It's just Toga's typical overreaction to anyone saying something against a Saracens player. Goes double for the sainted Owen Farrell.

I wasn’t aware he was biased towards SaracenS players?

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:35 am**

If Itoje spent more time practising handling than clapping like a demented monkey.........

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:35 am**

How was that allowed to be a quick lineout when there were players setting up on both sides?

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:36 am**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:34 am
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:32 am Farrell's a better 10 than 12 so why not?

You clearly don't rate Farrell but then you're an idiot so we have to make allowances.
Well, you finally got to understanding and conceding my original point. Farrell is a sh*tehouse 10 and if you think he's better there than 12, then his only place is not on the field at all.

We can add zero self-awareness to idiot.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:36 am**

PCPhil wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:35 am I wasn’t aware he was biased towards SaracenS players?

You know the sun rises every day?

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:36 am**

I've always admired Farrell but crikey he is a proper carthorse

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:37 am**

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:35 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:33 am
PCPhil wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:29 am
Cant see much wrong apart from maybe the misstimed pass in 1st half. Defence been good and kicked well.
Englands tactics aren’t helping: get ball, 2 forwards drives to allow aus defence to settle. Give to backs.
It's just Toga's typical overreaction to anyone saying something against a Saracens player. Goes double for the sainted Owen Farrell.

Smith is easily having his worst England match. I don't think he should be subbed though because he's a very good player.

That I might go with, but he's certainly not been terrible. That's hyperbolic and what I mean by an overreaction.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:38 am**

Superb restart from the Aussies there.

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:39 am**

Nicely worked try from Oz

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