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For something like this will happily pay 20 quid for the full DAZN package
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Box Office boxing for me is weird. You can only view it on Pay per View. Even 3 weeks later they don't allow non-paying people to watch a replay of the fight. :crazy:
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If the scoring in the first Taylor/ Catterall fight was controversial, that one is just ridiculous. Too close to call but 2 judges score it 117 to 111 which is just absolute nonsense.
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A couple of the cards were too wide, but the right result I reckon, Catterall edged it for me.
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Oxbow wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 11:00 pm A couple of the cards were too wide, but the right result I reckon, Catterall edged it for me.
I think Belew's spot on. You wouldn't have complained either way with a tight decision but the cards are a joke.
I thought Catterall won 4 of the first six but only nicked one after that where Taylor walked on to the left hook in round 10. I just can't see a case for Catterall winning any of the others.

Bob Arum certainly not happy. 😂
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It was a great fight regardless.

Nowhere for Taylor to go now although he will no doubt look for a trilogy or try to move up.

He is as hard as nails but seems pretty shot and just doesn't get off those inside combinations that were his trademark. He took a hell of a battering winning his titles mind you and it's a shame he will never get the recognition he deserves because of these fights.
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Blackmac wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 8:47 am It was a great fight regardless.

Nowhere for Taylor to go now although he will no doubt look for a trilogy or try to move up.

He is as hard as nails but seems pretty shot and just doesn't get off those inside combinations that were his trademark. He took a hell of a battering winning his titles mind you and it's a shame he will never get the recognition he deserves because of these fights.
I’d rate his demolition of Ohara Davis as one of the most satisfying fights I’ve had the pleasure of watching 🙏
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Taylor's fall has been pretty spectacular, undisputed to looking like he's done at world level in about three fights. It's pretty obvious he's been enjoying life outside the ring, which is always going to get you in the end.
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Taylor had a run of fights at world class level that only Froch can stand above in modern British boxing but it has clearly had an impact on him.
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Wilder - Zhang just about to kick off...
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Some card that, Dubois showed incredible offence and soaked up a lot of big rights, Sheeraz really is the nuts, great fighter.
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Oxbow wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 10:27 am Taylor's fall has been pretty spectacular, undisputed to looking like he's done at world level in about three fights. It's pretty obvious he's been enjoying life outside the ring, which is always going to get you in the end.
He's also been picking up quite a few injuries that have hindered his training. His hips and back have been playing up, and given he was already struggling to make 140, it seems like he's not got many fights left in him. I think on balance he's not overtaken Ken Buchanan as Scotland's greatest boxer, but he's certainly achieved a lot, though as a consequence of fighting in the states and his biggest fights being shown on bullshit streaming services, he never captured the public's attention as much as you'd expect up here.
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Gumboot wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 12:09 am Wilder - Zhang just about to kick off...
Wilder should call it a day before what few brains he's got end up totally scrambled.
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Anthony Joshua just got absolutely snotted by Daniel Dubois in a 5th-round KO. He got hurt in the previous round then started clowning around like it was nothing.
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He’ll sign the rematch and possibly beat Dubois. Not the first time he’s followed that pattern, chased the reverse offence and walked onto a lovely short right, I think the rematch will be a cracker. Great fight in front of a huge crowd and Sheeraz again shows he’s a potential 4 belt fighter.
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Usyk - Fury II just about to kick off.

Hopefully Usyk can make it 2-0...
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Usyk wins it on points, all 3 judges scoring it 112-106.
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Hopefully that's the last we see of the Fury clown show. Thought he was back in it after 10 but as usual Fury can't read a fight and stepped off the gas and showed no urgency to claim it.
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Stepped off or couldn't keep up the pace? He came in at a huge weight and Usyk is so very fast
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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:46 pm Stepped off or couldn't keep up the pace? He came in at a huge weight and Usyk is so very fast
Yep, all of Usyk's work to the body really paid off, with Fury looking much slower in the last few rounds.
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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:46 pm Stepped off or couldn't keep up the pace? He came in at a huge weight and Usyk is so very fast
Definitely the latter, Usyk threw more punches in the 11th and 12th than any of the other rounds.
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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:46 pm Stepped off or couldn't keep up the pace? He came in at a huge weight and Usyk is so very fast
I stopped watching pretty much all "Professional" boxing years ago, because I couldn't tell the difference between it, & WWF !

At least in WWF you knew it was all a show; but with boxing people pretend that the outcome isn't in a script, & a lot of mugs bet on the outcome thinking that the winner wasn't determined months before !!
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fishfoodie wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:03 am
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:46 pm Stepped off or couldn't keep up the pace? He came in at a huge weight and Usyk is so very fast
I stopped watching pretty much all "Professional" boxing years ago, because I couldn't tell the difference between it, & WWF !

At least in WWF you knew it was all a show; but with boxing people pretend that the outcome isn't in a script, & a lot of mugs bet on the outcome thinking that the winner wasn't determined months before !!
Yeah, great insight, thanks
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JM2K6 wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:05 am
fishfoodie wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:03 am
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:46 pm Stepped off or couldn't keep up the pace? He came in at a huge weight and Usyk is so very fast
I stopped watching pretty much all "Professional" boxing years ago, because I couldn't tell the difference between it, & WWF !

At least in WWF you knew it was all a show; but with boxing people pretend that the outcome isn't in a script, & a lot of mugs bet on the outcome thinking that the winner wasn't determined months before !!
Yeah, great insight, thanks
Oh come on; have you watched any Olympic boxing in the last > 20 years & not wondered, & just gone, WTF on the scoring ?????

Some weights are better than others, but the more money in the purse, the more bent the result !
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fishfoodie wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:22 am
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:05 am
fishfoodie wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:03 am

I stopped watching pretty much all "Professional" boxing years ago, because I couldn't tell the difference between it, & WWF !

At least in WWF you knew it was all a show; but with boxing people pretend that the outcome isn't in a script, & a lot of mugs bet on the outcome thinking that the winner wasn't determined months before !!
Yeah, great insight, thanks
Oh come on; have you watched any Olympic boxing in the last > 20 years & not wondered, & just gone, WTF on the scoring ?????

Some weights are better than others, but the more money in the purse, the more bent the result !
I have no idea why you think any of this is relevant, but I'd like to point out that Olympic and Professional are extremely different things and none of it has anything to do with my question about Fury v Usyk. If you don't watch boxing, why are you even on this thread?
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Oxbow wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:01 am
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:46 pm Stepped off or couldn't keep up the pace? He came in at a huge weight and Usyk is so very fast
Definitely the latter, Usyk threw more punches in the 11th and 12th than any of the other rounds.
I think there is a bit of both. Every round where Fury pressed forward he won and won them comfortably and that included 9 and 10. Usyk looked absolutely gassed at that stage and Fury's corner were screaming at him to keep on the front foot. Start of round 11 Fury did the exact opposite and immediately starts backing off under very little pressure from Usyk. He rarely pressed forward again even though it looked as if he could do that at will.
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Blackmac wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:50 am
Oxbow wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:01 am
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:46 pm Stepped off or couldn't keep up the pace? He came in at a huge weight and Usyk is so very fast
Definitely the latter, Usyk threw more punches in the 11th and 12th than any of the other rounds.
I think there is a bit of both. Every round where Fury pressed forward he won and won them comfortably and that included 9 and 10. Usyk looked absolutely gassed at that stage and Fury's corner were screaming at him to keep on the front foot. Start of round 11 Fury did the exact opposite and immediately starts backing off under very little pressure from Usyk. He rarely pressed forward again even though it looked as if he could do that at will.
I haven't watched it yet so was keen to know! Will try and grab a copy, sounded like an excellent contest anyway. Cheers for the replies lads
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Blackmac wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:50 am
Oxbow wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:01 am
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:46 pm Stepped off or couldn't keep up the pace? He came in at a huge weight and Usyk is so very fast
Definitely the latter, Usyk threw more punches in the 11th and 12th than any of the other rounds.
I think there is a bit of both. Every round where Fury pressed forward he won and won them comfortably and that included 9 and 10. Usyk looked absolutely gassed at that stage and Fury's corner were screaming at him to keep on the front foot. Start of round 11 Fury did the exact opposite and immediately starts backing off under very little pressure from Usyk. He rarely pressed forward again even though it looked as if he could do that at will.
I agree that Fury looked much better on the front foot, but at no point did Usyk look gassed, he always comes on strong towards the end of fights and did so again last night, the punch stats bear that out. He won rounds 11 and 12 and that was enough to win him the fight.
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Oxbow wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:10 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:50 am
Oxbow wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:01 am

Definitely the latter, Usyk threw more punches in the 11th and 12th than any of the other rounds.
I think there is a bit of both. Every round where Fury pressed forward he won and won them comfortably and that included 9 and 10. Usyk looked absolutely gassed at that stage and Fury's corner were screaming at him to keep on the front foot. Start of round 11 Fury did the exact opposite and immediately starts backing off under very little pressure from Usyk. He rarely pressed forward again even though it looked as if he could do that at will.
I agree that Fury looked much better on the front foot, but at no point did Usyk look gassed, he always comes on strong towards the end of fights and did so again last night, the punch stats bear that out. He won rounds 11 and 12 and that was enough to win him the fight.
Gassed is possibly not the correct word but he was clearly shaken and appeared quite shocked at the turnaround from Fury. It appeared he was struggling to counter Fury advancing and closing down the distance. The judges cards are bizarre. All had Fury ahead after 5 but then he didn't win another round. I find that absolutely incredible as I felt he won the 2 clearest rounds of the fight during that period.
The right man won the fight but oh how you wish for some credible judging.

Hopefully we've seen the last of Fury. A lazy prick of a fighter and him and his family rarely brought anything but disrepute to the sport.
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I know it's old news but I marvel at the great big belly Fury is carrying. If that's what he looks like when he's in fighting condition, What's he going to be like in retirement?
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Uncle fester wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 5:04 pm I know it's old news but I marvel at the great big belly Fury is carrying. If that's what he looks like when he's in fighting condition, What's he going to be like in retirement?


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