Boxing thread
I think Belew's spot on. You wouldn't have complained either way with a tight decision but the cards are a joke.Oxbow wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 11:00 pm A couple of the cards were too wide, but the right result I reckon, Catterall edged it for me.
I thought Catterall won 4 of the first six but only nicked one after that where Taylor walked on to the left hook in round 10. I just can't see a case for Catterall winning any of the others.
Bob Arum certainly not happy.
It was a great fight regardless.
Nowhere for Taylor to go now although he will no doubt look for a trilogy or try to move up.
He is as hard as nails but seems pretty shot and just doesn't get off those inside combinations that were his trademark. He took a hell of a battering winning his titles mind you and it's a shame he will never get the recognition he deserves because of these fights.
Nowhere for Taylor to go now although he will no doubt look for a trilogy or try to move up.
He is as hard as nails but seems pretty shot and just doesn't get off those inside combinations that were his trademark. He took a hell of a battering winning his titles mind you and it's a shame he will never get the recognition he deserves because of these fights.
I’d rate his demolition of Ohara Davis as one of the most satisfying fights I’ve had the pleasure of watchingBlackmac wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 8:47 am It was a great fight regardless.
Nowhere for Taylor to go now although he will no doubt look for a trilogy or try to move up.
He is as hard as nails but seems pretty shot and just doesn't get off those inside combinations that were his trademark. He took a hell of a battering winning his titles mind you and it's a shame he will never get the recognition he deserves because of these fights.
He's also been picking up quite a few injuries that have hindered his training. His hips and back have been playing up, and given he was already struggling to make 140, it seems like he's not got many fights left in him. I think on balance he's not overtaken Ken Buchanan as Scotland's greatest boxer, but he's certainly achieved a lot, though as a consequence of fighting in the states and his biggest fights being shown on bullshit streaming services, he never captured the public's attention as much as you'd expect up here.Oxbow wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 10:27 am Taylor's fall has been pretty spectacular, undisputed to looking like he's done at world level in about three fights. It's pretty obvious he's been enjoying life outside the ring, which is always going to get you in the end.
He’ll sign the rematch and possibly beat Dubois. Not the first time he’s followed that pattern, chased the reverse offence and walked onto a lovely short right, I think the rematch will be a cracker. Great fight in front of a huge crowd and Sheeraz again shows he’s a potential 4 belt fighter.
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I stopped watching pretty much all "Professional" boxing years ago, because I couldn't tell the difference between it, & WWF !JM2K6 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:46 pm Stepped off or couldn't keep up the pace? He came in at a huge weight and Usyk is so very fast
At least in WWF you knew it was all a show; but with boxing people pretend that the outcome isn't in a script, & a lot of mugs bet on the outcome thinking that the winner wasn't determined months before !!
Yeah, great insight, thanksfishfoodie wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:03 amI stopped watching pretty much all "Professional" boxing years ago, because I couldn't tell the difference between it, & WWF !JM2K6 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:46 pm Stepped off or couldn't keep up the pace? He came in at a huge weight and Usyk is so very fast
At least in WWF you knew it was all a show; but with boxing people pretend that the outcome isn't in a script, & a lot of mugs bet on the outcome thinking that the winner wasn't determined months before !!
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Oh come on; have you watched any Olympic boxing in the last > 20 years & not wondered, & just gone, WTF on the scoring ?????JM2K6 wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:05 amYeah, great insight, thanksfishfoodie wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:03 amI stopped watching pretty much all "Professional" boxing years ago, because I couldn't tell the difference between it, & WWF !JM2K6 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:46 pm Stepped off or couldn't keep up the pace? He came in at a huge weight and Usyk is so very fast
At least in WWF you knew it was all a show; but with boxing people pretend that the outcome isn't in a script, & a lot of mugs bet on the outcome thinking that the winner wasn't determined months before !!
Some weights are better than others, but the more money in the purse, the more bent the result !
I have no idea why you think any of this is relevant, but I'd like to point out that Olympic and Professional are extremely different things and none of it has anything to do with my question about Fury v Usyk. If you don't watch boxing, why are you even on this thread?fishfoodie wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:22 amOh come on; have you watched any Olympic boxing in the last > 20 years & not wondered, & just gone, WTF on the scoring ?????JM2K6 wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:05 amYeah, great insight, thanksfishfoodie wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:03 am
I stopped watching pretty much all "Professional" boxing years ago, because I couldn't tell the difference between it, & WWF !
At least in WWF you knew it was all a show; but with boxing people pretend that the outcome isn't in a script, & a lot of mugs bet on the outcome thinking that the winner wasn't determined months before !!
Some weights are better than others, but the more money in the purse, the more bent the result !
I think there is a bit of both. Every round where Fury pressed forward he won and won them comfortably and that included 9 and 10. Usyk looked absolutely gassed at that stage and Fury's corner were screaming at him to keep on the front foot. Start of round 11 Fury did the exact opposite and immediately starts backing off under very little pressure from Usyk. He rarely pressed forward again even though it looked as if he could do that at will.
I haven't watched it yet so was keen to know! Will try and grab a copy, sounded like an excellent contest anyway. Cheers for the replies ladsBlackmac wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:50 amI think there is a bit of both. Every round where Fury pressed forward he won and won them comfortably and that included 9 and 10. Usyk looked absolutely gassed at that stage and Fury's corner were screaming at him to keep on the front foot. Start of round 11 Fury did the exact opposite and immediately starts backing off under very little pressure from Usyk. He rarely pressed forward again even though it looked as if he could do that at will.
I agree that Fury looked much better on the front foot, but at no point did Usyk look gassed, he always comes on strong towards the end of fights and did so again last night, the punch stats bear that out. He won rounds 11 and 12 and that was enough to win him the fight.Blackmac wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:50 amI think there is a bit of both. Every round where Fury pressed forward he won and won them comfortably and that included 9 and 10. Usyk looked absolutely gassed at that stage and Fury's corner were screaming at him to keep on the front foot. Start of round 11 Fury did the exact opposite and immediately starts backing off under very little pressure from Usyk. He rarely pressed forward again even though it looked as if he could do that at will.
Gassed is possibly not the correct word but he was clearly shaken and appeared quite shocked at the turnaround from Fury. It appeared he was struggling to counter Fury advancing and closing down the distance. The judges cards are bizarre. All had Fury ahead after 5 but then he didn't win another round. I find that absolutely incredible as I felt he won the 2 clearest rounds of the fight during that period.Oxbow wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:10 pmI agree that Fury looked much better on the front foot, but at no point did Usyk look gassed, he always comes on strong towards the end of fights and did so again last night, the punch stats bear that out. He won rounds 11 and 12 and that was enough to win him the fight.Blackmac wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:50 amI think there is a bit of both. Every round where Fury pressed forward he won and won them comfortably and that included 9 and 10. Usyk looked absolutely gassed at that stage and Fury's corner were screaming at him to keep on the front foot. Start of round 11 Fury did the exact opposite and immediately starts backing off under very little pressure from Usyk. He rarely pressed forward again even though it looked as if he could do that at will.Oxbow wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:01 am
Definitely the latter, Usyk threw more punches in the 11th and 12th than any of the other rounds.
The right man won the fight but oh how you wish for some credible judging.
Hopefully we've seen the last of Fury. A lazy prick of a fighter and him and his family rarely brought anything but disrepute to the sport.
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I know it's old news but I marvel at the great big belly Fury is carrying. If that's what he looks like when he's in fighting condition, What's he going to be like in retirement?
Uncle fester wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 5:04 pm I know it's old news but I marvel at the great big belly Fury is carrying. If that's what he looks like when he's in fighting condition, What's he going to be like in retirement?
Something like this...
