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Chilli wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:43 am https://www.news24.com/sport/rugby/flip ... s-20210311
4 out of the 5 were mismanaged by the $harks.
$wak!
Not the biggest of matches, but one can't complain about mid-week rugby.Chilli wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:21 pm Teams
EP Elephants: 15 Keanu Vers, 14 Riaan Arends, 13 Athi Mayinje, 12 Sherwin Slater, 11 Christopher Hollis, 10 Courtney Winnaar (captain), 9 Richman Gora, 8 Zingisa April, 7 Anele Lungisa, 6 Diego Williams, 5 Mncedisi Dlwengu, 4 Athenkosi Khetani, 3 Lumpumlo Mguca, 2 Robins Stevens, 1 Marzuq Maarman.
Replacements: 16 Sithembiso Befile, 17 Lyle Lombard, 18 Emile Klaassen, 19 Ronald Scheckle, 20 Bevin Prinsloo, 21 Athi Manentsa, 22 Josh Alderman, 23 Josiah Twum-Boafo.
Griquas: 15 Masixole Banda, 14 Daniel Kasende, 13 Michal Haznar, 12 Andre Swarts, 11 Enver Brandt, 10 Tinus de Beer, 9 Stefan Ungerer (captain), 8 Carl Els, 7 Stefan Willemse, 6 Gideon van der Merwe, 5 Cameron Lindsay, 4 Ewan Coetzee, 3 Tijde Visser, 2 Alandre van Rooyen, 1 Nqobisizwe Mxoli.
Replacements – from: 16 Hendrick Luus, 17 Andrew Beerwinkel, 18 John-Roy Jenkinson, 19 Mzwanele Zito, 20 Adre Smith, 21 Ashlon Davids, 22 Johnathan Francke, 23 James Verity-Amm, 24 Bandisa Ndlovu, 25 Raegan Oranje, 26 Harlon Klaasen.
Date: Wednesday, March 17
Venue: Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium, Port Elizabeth
Kick-off: 19.00 (17.00 GMT)
Referee: Cwengile Jadezweni
Assistant referees: Phumzile Mbewu, Sean Muller
TMO: Christie du Preez
This is more like it, North South derby, the biggest game in South African rugby.Chilli wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:31 pm Stormers: 15 Damian Willemse, 14 Edwill van der Merwe, 13 Ruhan Nel, 12 Rikus Pretorius, 11 Leolin Zas, 10 Kade Wolhuter, 9 Paul de Wet, 8 Juarno Augustus, 7 Ernst van Rhyn, 6 Marcel Theunissen, 5 David Meihuizen, 4 Salmaan Moerat (captain), 3 Sazi Sandi, 2 Chad Solomon, 1 Leon Lyons.
Replacements – from: 16 Scarra Ntubeni, 17 Ali Vermaak, 18 Neethling Fouche, 19 JD Schickerling, 20 Johan du Toit, 21 Evan Roos, 22 Herschel Jantjies, 23 Tim Swiel, 24 Chris Schreuder, 25 Cornel Smit.
Date: Friday, March 19
Venue: Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria
Kick-off: 19.00 (17.00 GMT)
Referee: AJ Jacobs
Assistant Referees: Griffin Colby, Morne Ferreira
TMO: Marius van der Westhuizen
One hell of a team. Dodgey front row perhaps?handyman wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:33 pmThis is more like it, North South derby, the biggest game in South African rugby.Chilli wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:31 pm Stormers: 15 Damian Willemse, 14 Edwill van der Merwe, 13 Ruhan Nel, 12 Rikus Pretorius, 11 Leolin Zas, 10 Kade Wolhuter, 9 Paul de Wet, 8 Juarno Augustus, 7 Ernst van Rhyn, 6 Marcel Theunissen, 5 David Meihuizen, 4 Salmaan Moerat (captain), 3 Sazi Sandi, 2 Chad Solomon, 1 Leon Lyons.
Replacements – from: 16 Scarra Ntubeni, 17 Ali Vermaak, 18 Neethling Fouche, 19 JD Schickerling, 20 Johan du Toit, 21 Evan Roos, 22 Herschel Jantjies, 23 Tim Swiel, 24 Chris Schreuder, 25 Cornel Smit.
Date: Friday, March 19
Venue: Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria
Kick-off: 19.00 (17.00 GMT)
Referee: AJ Jacobs
Assistant Referees: Griffin Colby, Morne Ferreira
TMO: Marius van der Westhuizen
Even if it does not count and is only a warm up game.
I have to be honest, I don't have a clue about 1 and 3.Chilli wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:40 pmOne hell of a team. Dodgey front row perhaps?handyman wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:33 pmThis is more like it, North South derby, the biggest game in South African rugby.Chilli wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:31 pm Stormers: 15 Damian Willemse, 14 Edwill van der Merwe, 13 Ruhan Nel, 12 Rikus Pretorius, 11 Leolin Zas, 10 Kade Wolhuter, 9 Paul de Wet, 8 Juarno Augustus, 7 Ernst van Rhyn, 6 Marcel Theunissen, 5 David Meihuizen, 4 Salmaan Moerat (captain), 3 Sazi Sandi, 2 Chad Solomon, 1 Leon Lyons.
Replacements – from: 16 Scarra Ntubeni, 17 Ali Vermaak, 18 Neethling Fouche, 19 JD Schickerling, 20 Johan du Toit, 21 Evan Roos, 22 Herschel Jantjies, 23 Tim Swiel, 24 Chris Schreuder, 25 Cornel Smit.
Date: Friday, March 19
Venue: Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria
Kick-off: 19.00 (17.00 GMT)
Referee: AJ Jacobs
Assistant Referees: Griffin Colby, Morne Ferreira
TMO: Marius van der Westhuizen
Even if it does not count and is only a warm up game.
I'm lank happy that Von Wolhuter is being trusted with the 10 Jersey.OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:23 pm Good to see Kade get a start again. Why two flyhalfs on the bench? Another chance for our C team frontrow. If they can be steady the bench frontrow can dominate.
Exactly. What exactly is this preparation series preparing them for anyway. What a shitshow.Chilli wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:07 am Being smashed week in and week out is not good for Rugby.
The Elephants should be withdrawn.
Politics being put first and the interest of the team and the players second.
I was embarrassed for the players. They don't deserve this .
Ja. They should make the SWD, Border and EP development or academy's.handyman wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:12 amPolitics being put first and the interest of the team and the players second.
Preparing more PoCs for the bigger provinces. That's why they play in this.handyman wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:12 amPolitics being put first and the interest of the team and the players second.
Like previously qouted, EP produce the most black etnick PoCs for SA rugby. They need this exposure to fast track them to the other provinces. Our best black players origin from EP.average joe wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:37 am Snor's coaching being exposed for what it is? Anyways, this is like fokon Vodacom Cup level, if they don't play in this what should they play in? Perhaps SARU should have let the smaller teams also play.
When the Boks lost 57-0, did you puddings call for them to be withdrawn from Rugby? It was that just AC trolling?handyman wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:12 amPolitics being put first and the interest of the team and the players second.
Shipping cricket scores in every match does fuckall for "exposure". If anything it does the opposite, it will ruin their chances and end some careers. These EP players are an embarrassment by association.OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:28 am Like previously qouted, EP produce the most black etnick PoCs for SA rugby. They need this exposure to fast track them to the other provinces. Our best black players origin from EP.
Is this to difficult to understand?
AF, Handy and even you critised me for using the PoC word but vok me isnt this what we need to support rather then critisize? This experience will help the current EP players to showcase their talent?
The PoC concept failed using WP as example. Coloured players arent good enough for government. They want black players. What do the other provinces do to develope them? Vokol they simply poach colour and black players from Boland and EP.
So this is the way SARU go to help EP.
Please quote me where I've asked for them to be pulled? My view is I hope the players do well so that they can be fast tracked to other teams where it's about the team and the players, not about money laundering and politics.Sandstorm wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:54 amWhen the Boks lost 57-0, did you puddings call for them to be withdrawn from Rugby? It was that just AC trolling?
Everyone gets pumped and you learn from it and improve.
Agreed, good post.assfly wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:08 amShipping cricket scores in every match does fuckall for "exposure". If anything it does the opposite, it will ruin their chances and end some careers. These EP players are an embarrassment by association.OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:28 am Like previously qouted, EP produce the most black etnick PoCs for SA rugby. They need this exposure to fast track them to the other provinces. Our best black players origin from EP.
Is this to difficult to understand?
AF, Handy and even you critised me for using the PoC word but vok me isnt this what we need to support rather then critisize? This experience will help the current EP players to showcase their talent?
The PoC concept failed using WP as example. Coloured players arent good enough for government. They want black players. What do the other provinces do to develope them? Vokol they simply poach colour and black players from Boland and EP.
So this is the way SARU go to help EP.
I think we're all in agreement that we'd like to see a strong EP team. But they're an absolute shitshow off the field and on it and I don't think they should be rewarded by playing against the big boys.
They should let another union take control of EPRU so they can clear out the corruption and start from starch.
EP is a great source of black players, but they should be drafted to an EP team where they get quality coaching, where the aim is to better the players, not see how much money the admin can steal.OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:28 amLike previously qouted, EP produce the most black etnick PoCs for SA rugby. They need this exposure to fast track them to the other provinces. Our best black players origin from EP.average joe wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:37 am Snor's coaching being exposed for what it is? Anyways, this is like fokon Vodacom Cup level, if they don't play in this what should they play in? Perhaps SARU should have let the smaller teams also play.
Is this to difficult to understand?
AF, Handy and even you critised me for using the PoC word but vok me isnt this what we need to support rather then critisize? This experience will help the current EP players to showcase their talent?
The PoC concept failed using WP as example. Coloured players arent good enough for government. They want black players. What do the other provinces do to develope them? Vokol they simply poach colour and black players from Boland and EP.
So this is the way SARU go to help EP.
Sharks by 50Chilli wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:32 am Sharks: 15 Aphelele Fassi, 14 Werner Kok, 13 Lukhanyo Am (captain), 12 Rynhard Jonker, 11 Yaw Penxe, 10 Boeta Chamberlain, 9 Sanele Nohamba, 8 Sikhumbuzo Notshe, 7 Mpilo Gumede, 6 Henco Venter, 5 Reniel Hugo, 4 Le Roux Roets, 3 John-Hubert Meyer, 2 Dan Jooste, 1 Mzamo Majola.
Replacements: 16 Dylan Richardson, 17 Ntuthuko Mchunu, 18 Thomas du Toit, 19 Emile van Heerden, 20 Thembelani Bholi, 21 Grant Williams, 22 Curwin Bosch, 23 Marius Louw.
Bulls by 50.Sards wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:42 am Bulls – 15 Richard Kriel, 14 Madosh Tambwe, 13 Stedman Gans, 12 Cornal Hendricks, 11 Marco Jansen van Vuren, 10 Chris Smith, 9 Zak Burger, 8 Nizaam Carr, 7 Werner Gouws, 6 Marco van Staden, 5 Ruan Nortje, 4 Janko Swanepoel, 3 Trevor Nyakane, 2 Joe van Zyl, 1 Gerhard Steenekamp.
Subs: 16 Johan Grobbelaar, 17 Jan-Hendrik Wessels, 18 Jacques van Rooyen, 19 Jan Uys, 20 Tim Agaba, 21 Keagan Johannes, 22 Morne Steyn, 23 Diego Appollis, 24 Nolan Pienaar, 25 Raynard Roets, 26 Marnus Potgieter
Liberal, vok u. Its either black or white.handyman wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:12 am You've been very liberal with the way you label players as poc when it's been entirely uncalled for. They were there on merit. I've called you on that in the past and I will again in the future.
No interest in the $harks / Lions or the big game Stormers/ Bulls
NAH......................Bulls have put out their C team....Sharks going with Boeta this week using their player rotation system .... Its not best team versus best team....rather watch my kids play cricket thanks
Stormers by 30Sards wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:01 am Stormers: Bulls
15 Damian Willemse, vs 15 Richard Kriel adv Stormers................most overhyped player in the universe vs Beach muscles broer
14 Edwill van der Merwe, vs 14 Madosh Tambwe................................adv Bulls...Sharks moulded Tambwe...Sharks beat Stormers always
13 Ruhan Nel, vs 13 Stedman Gans....................................adv Bulls...POC vs Dutchman
12 Rikus Pretorius, vs 12 Cornal Hendricks...............................adv Bulls...POC vs Dutchman
11 Leolin Zas, vs 11 Marco Jansen van Vuren..................adv Stormers...Zas went to be coached at the Sharks
10 Kade Wolhuter, vs 10 Chris Smith........................................adv Stormers...ouboet changed his nappies
9 Paul de Wet, vs 9 Zak Burger............................................adv even
8 Juarno Augustus, vs 8 Nizaam Carr.........................................adv Bulls , Carr went away to be coached properly
7 Ernst van Rhyn, vs 7 Werner Gouws.....................................adv Stormers...ernst never rated on social..doing something right
6 Marcel Theunissen, vs 6 Marco van Staden...............................adv Bulls...its obvious
5 David Meihuizen, vs 5 Ruan Nortje.........................................even
4 Salmaan Moerat (captain), vs 4 Janko Swanepoel................................adv Stormers...POC captain
3 Sazi Sandi, vs 3 Trevor Nyakane ..................................adv Bulls...More experienced POC
2 Chad Solomon, vs 2 Joe van Zyl...........................................who knows
1 Leon Lyons. vs 1 Gerhard Steenekamp...........................adv Bulls
disclaimer.......Term POC used so WP supporters understand
Pumas: 15 Devon Williams, 14 Etienne Taljaard, 13 Erich Cronjé, 12 Ali Ngijima, 11 Tapiwa Mafura, 10 Eddie Fouché, 9 Chriswill September, 8 Willie Engelbrecht, 7 Francois Kleinhans, 6 Daniel Maartens, 5 Darien Landsberg, 4 Pieter Janse van Vuren (captain), 3 Marné Coetzee, 2 Simon Westraadt, 1 Morgan Naudé.Chilli wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:27 am Cheetahs: 15 Rhyno Smith, 14 Malcolm Jaer, 13 Chris Smit, 12 Howard Mnisi, 11 Craig Barry, 10 Reinhardt Fortuin, 9 Ruan Pienaar (captain), 8 Jacques Potgieter, 7 Oupa Mohoje, 6 Chris Massyn, 5 Victor Sekekete, 4 Carl Wegner, 3 Aranos Coetzee, 2 Marnus van der Merwe, 1 Cameron Dawson.
Replacements: 16 Wilmar Arnoldi, 17 Schalk Ferreira, 18 Conraad (Beertjie) van Vuuren, 19 Rynier Bernardo, 20 Aidon Davis, 21 Tian Meyer, 22 Frans Steyn, 23 Rosko Specman
Date: Friday, March 19
Venue: Free State Stadium, Bloemfontein
Kick-off: 16.30 (14.30 GMT)
Referee: Stuart Berry
Assistant referees: Cwengile Jadeweni & Paul Mente
TMO: Aimee Berrett-Theron